Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[evdk]

"rpgs are too dumbed down. Why can't we have writing as good as you get in books?"

"LS talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded"

That's not the argument in this thread, not by a long shot.

 

[oscar]

If we're discussing romance (or anything involving writing for that matter), it seems perfectly valid to discuss how games could more interestingly and deeply portray it by drawing from more intellectual mediums (classical stories, literature, philosophers etc).

 

[Marquess Cornwallis]

If we're discussing romance (or anything involving writing for that matter), it seems perfectly valid to discuss how games could more interestingly and deeply portray it by drawing from more intellectual mediums (classical stories, literature, philosophers etc).

But, as evdk pointed out, this in itself is not what invites the ridicule. Lyric Suite's views may be eccentric to a degree, but are hardly stupid (or, for that matter, rare). The context he puts them in, however, his penchant for dramatic exaggeration and the way he combines fairly affected diction with a consistent inability to adhere to basic stylistic and orthographic conventions (its/it's, your/you're, then/than) generally make him sound like Mr Hunter reflecting on the "Ode to an Expiring Frog" rather than a modern-day Cicero.

 

[Lyric Suite]

But, i can still count to potato

 

[Lyric Suite]

If we're discussing romance (or anything involving writing for that matter), it seems perfectly valid to discuss how games could more interestingly and deeply portray it by drawing from more intellectual mediums (classical stories, literature, philosophers etc).

But, as evdk pointed out, this in itself is not what invites the ridicule. Lyric Suite's views may be eccentric to a degree, but are hardly stupid (or, for that matter, rare). The context he puts them in, however, his penchant for dramatic exaggeration and the way he combines fairly affected diction with a consistent inability to adhere to basic stylistic and orthographic conventions (its/it's, your/you're, then/than) generally make him sound like Mr Hunter reflecting on the "Ode to an Expiring Frog" rather than a modern-day Cicero.

Yes, but the effect is half intentional, because the "knowledge" i profess to possess is not of a type that can be demonstrated visibly. It seems the Codex would like me to be more like a brilliant sophist then an actual philosopher, where in actuality i'm neither of those things. In Kabbalism it is often said that God speaks "tersely". In my case, i like to speak in grunts. If you cannot catch my meaning right away there's no amount of searing eloquence or grand erudition that i could employ which would be of any actual help, to you, or to myself.

What i'm saying basically is that this:

Is actually no more knowledgeable then this:

By taking on the persona of the latter, i'm actually making a statement as to the ignorance of the first. Particularly when the first does show up and then proceeds to validate my point of view almost immediately. To wit, Dickens and Dante, which is better and why? Discuss!

In truth, i'm neither a philosopher nor an intellectual in the general sense of the word, but i lean more towards a pneumatic constitution, which is actually more of a "spiritual" state of being, as defined by Schuon:

http://www.sophia-perennis.com/Gnostic_psychic.htm
http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/uploads/ArticlePDFs/414.pdf

I guess unless you have a pneumatic tendency yourself, you'll never see anything beyond the profundus maximus charade. This is what is actually happening here.

 

[Marquess Cornwallis]

Lyric Suite: I get it. Like I said, I don't find you or your beliefs stupid and have nothing in principle against your shtick, either; I was only commenting on its comic aspect (made comical by those who accept the whole thing lock, stock and barrel).

 

[Alienfreak]

In truth, i'm neither a philosopher nor an intellectual in the general sense of the word, but i lean more towards a pneumatic constitution, which is actually more of a "spiritual" state of being, as defined by Schuon:

http://www.sophia-perennis.com/Gnostic_psychic.htm
http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/uploads/ArticlePDFs/414.pdf

I guess unless you have a pneumatic tendency yourself, you'll never see anything beyond the profundus maximus charade. This is what is actually happening here.

Perennis and tribal/ancient occult bullshit always makes my penis tickle.

 

[bminorkey]

Volly is the Codex's black guardian angel, ain't no one tell you otherwise.

Deionarra is the last female LS would call a moronic whore.

There is a quote by Rumi which goes something along the lines of the sage being easily conquered by the woman, while the fool, or the brute, conquers her. I think this sums up the entire problem of "love" in a nutshell. Deionarra represents an "ideal" of femininity which is at the very center of the type of experience one feels while being in love, an experience which is essentially paradisaical in nature. But being corrupted creatures, human beings can only achieve an approximation of this ideal, and many men are so eager for this experience that they often elevate a particular woman to this transcendent ideal, even if she does not measure up as an individual and can easily be swept away by males of a more coarse and perhaps even evil temperament. The tragedy in the story of Deionarra is that she was the real deal, and by abusing her love the Practical Incarnation didn't simply commit an act of cruelty against her personally, but he also committed a sin of the gravest order by defiling one of the most sacred aspects of divinity. Does this seem right?

Any thoughts about this, Lyric suite? http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/10/the_story_of_narcissus.html

Your post kind of brought it to mind.

Narcissus obviously represents pride, the demon of the young, as Schuon said. "If he but fail to recognize himself, a long life he may have, beneath the sun". Seems like the guy is making something very complicated out of something relatively simple. "Hurr durr but that's just like you LS trololo" There, saved you the trouble.

Nope. Was genuinely interested in what you think. I actually quite like you.

 

[Jasede]

They think Braid is a good game at the Obsidian forums.
First one here to come out and say they think Braid is a good game gets ignored for life. :<

Edit: anyone who likes Braid really; there's no excuse for bad taste

List of victims: (New ones bold)

Clockwork Knight
Darth Roxor
empi
Frusciante
Excidium
J_C
Mastermind
Roguey
tuluse

Edit: I'm not really ignoring you, I'm just being childish. And if you weren't too you wouldn't post here.

 

[Jaesun]

What is Braid?

 

[J_C]

They think Braid is a good game at the Obsidian forums.
First one here to come out and say they think Braid is a good game gets ignored for life. :<

Braid is a great game.

 

[Darth Roxor]

They think Braid is a good game at the Obsidian forums.
First one here to come out and say they think Braid is a good game gets ignored for life. :<

And why exactly?

It's pretentious and overrated to hell and back, sure, but it's a good enough puzzle/platformer.

 

[Jasede]

No it's not.

But why try to explain it myself when this person already did so, and better?

http://insomnia.ac/reviews/xbox360/braid/page_01.php

 

[Jaesun]

Oh that's that platformer thing people blabbed on about endlessly. meh never played it.

 

[Darth Roxor]

No it's not.

But why try to explain it myself when this person already did so, and better?

http://insomnia.ac/reviews/xbox360/braid/page_01.php

HNNNNNGGGGGGG THIS THING IS SO FUCKING PRETENTIOUS AND OVERRATED

how exactly is that different from my point

 

[tuluse]

No it's not.

But why try to explain it myself when this person already did so, and better?

http://insomnia.ac/reviews/xbox360/braid/page_01.php

It's still a decent puzzle game, which this review never seems to refute. He's just really anal about classifying it as such, which everyone with half a brain already did.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Telling people that they should listen to a batshit insane aspie's ramblings instead of you is generally not a good way to support your points.

edit: Hey! I'm not a Braid lover. But that guy's a total nutjob.

 

[almondblight]

The RPG Codex: where it's ok to masturbate over the beauty of roleplaying game writing, but mention traditional literature and we'll mock you for three pages.

If you hear people arguing whether or not Star Wars or Star Trek is the greatest work of SciFi ever created, do you think to yourself "Great! A discussion about science fiction!" ?

 

[empi]

Don't know why you're so offended by Braid, but yeah, it's a good game. It's not the best platformer/puzzler ever, but an enjoyable play

Jasede you're ignoring a fellow Star Trail fag!!!!

 

[suejak]

The RPG Codex: where it's ok to masturbate over the beauty of roleplaying game writing, but mention traditional literature and we'll mock you for three pages.

If you hear people arguing whether or not Star Wars or Star Trek is the greatest work of SciFi ever created, do you think to yourself "Great! A discussion about science fiction!" ?

Hmm... is this a puzzle?

I think the answer is... yes...

 

[Frusciante]

No it's not.

But why try to explain it myself when this person already did so, and better?

http://insomnia.ac/reviews/xbox360/braid/page_01.php

This is the most retarded article I have ever read. Who the fuck is Soulja boy? Why would we care what some lame, stoned rapper thinks? Not that he does any thinking at all in the youtube clip.
Yet this guy uses Soullja boy (what the fuck again) as proof that the hype around Braid is easy to debunk? The first half of the article is just him being ashamed of being a gamer just because some non-gamers (not hindered by any knowledge about games) don't like Braid. The other half is him trying to be cool and different by 'debunking' a game that doesnt need debunking if you're not a retarded casual gamer hipster.

 

[Mastermind]

I refuse to read anything written by a retard who thought it was a good idea to write an article in the form of a thin column. Is he too hardcore for popamole mainstream text formatting?

 

[Mastermind]

They think Braid is a good game at the Obsidian forums.
First one here to come out and say they think Braid is a good game gets ignored for life. :<

Edit: anyone who likes Braid really; there's no excuse for bad taste

List of victims: (New ones bold)

Clockwork Knight
Darth Roxor
empi
Frusciante
Excidium
J_C
Mastermind
tuluse

I dunno why my name is on that list, Terraria is the only 2d platformer i've played in ages and I don't play it for the platformer part. I never even heard of braid until you mentioned it. I just think the article's retarded.

 

[Roguey]

Braid was dece. Doesn't hold a candle to Donkey Kong of course.

 

[Frusciante]

They think Braid is a good game at the Obsidian forums.
First one here to come out and say they think Braid is a good game gets ignored for life. :<

Edit: anyone who likes Braid really; there's no excuse for bad taste

List of victims: (New ones bold)

Clockwork Knight
Darth Roxor
empi
Frusciante
Excidium
J_C
Mastermind
tuluse

Who says I like Braid? I only said I didnt like the article.