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[Mary Sue Leigh]

I can handle invitations as well if we're going to get our hands too full, hihi. I don't think we're short any roles generally, at least for ships/space, but I'm always elated to have some DPS to support me.

 

[Norfleet]

I think the main role we're short on is a Vaarna proxy. Nobody does the thing quite like Vaarna. I tried, but my lag is too awful for that sort of thing.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Isn't it like a grind fest to get his purple doffs?

 

[Norfleet]

It's not the purple doffs that I'm missing, it's the "not dying instantly from unknown causes in a lag spike". I frequently find I get killed despite the total absence of any swinging blades or flying bullets to be seen. I attribute this largely to my horrendous lag from high-security Internet. Do you find you have this same problem, where you die mysteriously of unknown causes, unstruck by any actual bullets?

 

[Zorgfin]

My game client is currently annoying the hell out of me, it has been trying to update since yesterday and it froze like 12 times already. In any case, Vaarna_Aarne, I know of a way to create a Romulan in the game, thought I might share it with since you wanted to create one so badly (http://www.stowiki.org/Guide:_Canon_alien_race_builds).

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Phhhhh I can stay alive just fine too with some decent equip! I soloed boss-y stuff before anyone else could even stand upright.


Aaand that race thingy is known already I guess but there's always that nagging thought of just being a freak alien and not a real Romulan or whatever :D

 

[Norfleet]

Decent equipment isn't the problem, non-lagged Internet is the problem. No matter how much I upgrade my equipment, lag is still armor-piercing and shield-ignoring.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

It's all that tin foil and lead shielding, playing havoc with your inter-tubes brah.

 

[Norfleet]

My game client is currently annoying the hell out of me, it has been trying to update since yesterday and it froze like 12 times already.

What's it doing to fail? Need someone to just tarball the entire mess?

In any case, Vaarna_Aarne, I know of a way to create a Romulan in the game, thought I might share it with since you wanted to create one so badly (http://www.stowiki.org/Guide:_Canon_alien_race_builds).

Yeah, but a Romulan without the Romulan Empire is just an emo Vulcan.

 

[Zorgfin]

My game's finally fully patched, thank god! I will post pone playing STO until season 7 getting released in November, okay? They're gonna make Klingons available as first time characters(I've always wanted to play as a Klingon), and Romulans will actually be playable(good news for you guys). That's not it, I heard there will be some combat rebalances as well. http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=689581

 

[Norfleet]

They didn't outright say they were doing ANY of those things. And none of those things are GOOD anyway.

And if you postpone it, then all that patching was for nothing, as you'll have to do it again, plus you'll miss out on any profits you could have gained from what they subsequently nerf or remove, because this is why you can't have nice things.

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Klingons on the Federation side (which you HAVE TO start out as) exist but must be unlocked err... let me think if that's actually possible from outside the game and how much it actually costs.. Might be necessary to make a PC, to acess their store, unlock there, quit & remake..
KDF Klingons are free of course, available at level 25 when you unlock that faction, if memory serves.

 

[Subject37]

That's not it, I heard there will be some combat rebalances as well.

Any details on what they're considering changing? And I agree with Norfleet, no point in waiting until season 7, better to get started now. Playing through the initial levels is tedious because both your character and your ship suck, and a lot of content and missions aren't available to you until you gain some levels. If you started now you'd probably have at least one character at the current level cap by the time season 7 rolled around.

 

[SuicideBunny]

They're gonna make Klingons available as first time characters(I've always wanted to play as a Klingon)

again?

The KDF faction has a long history of trying to establish itself and has suffered greatly from the "what is it going to be?" thrash. While there is a passionate contingent of KDF players at max level who want more KDF specific content, there is also a large number of players who pass on playing in the KDF because you cannot build a KDF character as your first. In either case, the KDF wants to feel established and have their own agenda in the game instead of always playing the "foil" to the Feds. The best way we could tackle this issue is to take a “build it and they will come” attitude and find a way to let players create Klingons as their first and primary character.

right. nobody plays kdf because you cannot start as one... not that you actually could make a kdf char originally as soon as you finished tutorial or that they still feel like filler especially when i look at the costume options i get on my fed vs my klink (it's a cryptic game. it's all about costumes.).

btw, what happened to stahl leaving? why is he still posting (not that it's a bad thing if it is really him)?

 

[Drakron]

btw, what happened to stahl leaving? why is he still posting (not that it's a bad thing if it is really him)?

He did, was rehired a few months later.

 

[SuicideBunny]

that's not weird at all...

 

[fizzelopeguss]

it's true, cuz i'm tacticool.

 

[Zorgfin]

It's not that it's absolutely mandatory for me to wait for season 7, but all the race options available for me are lame as hell. My favourite races from Star Trek are Ferengi, Klingon and Romulan. Since Ferengi have some really weak trait options, I thought I'd stick with Klingon since they have much better traits. But I mean, I don't wanna pay 600 credits to be a Klingon, and to tell you the truth, from that list of alien races, Klingon is the only one I like (I would've liked Ferengi as well, if their traits didn't suck so badly...).

 

[Norfleet]

You're not going to get anything good out of season 7, trust me on this. If you keep waiting, you'll keep waiting indefinitely while the game slowly slides into shit. Best to get in before the Decline hits. Remember, Entropy Always Increases. Decline is inevitable and inexorable.

Race-wise, there's no playable Romulans and none coming down the pipe anytime soon. Even the thing you linked sort of shot it down in a wishy-washy manner. If they claim they're making Season 7 in 2 months, there is no way in hell they're going to pull that off in 2 months. As for paying $600 to be a Fed Klingon...eh. It's possible to make a 100% accurate Klingon in the Rubber Forehead Shop without paying anything. So what you're really paying for is a label (As if anyone can't tell what you are), and two traits of dubious value. Of course, using the Rubber Forehead Shop, you could hit two birds with one stone and play as both a Romulan and a Klingon. Those Romu-Klingons exist in canon, anyway.

there is also a large number of players who pass on playing in the KDF because you cannot build a KDF character as your first.

I don't actually feel that's a huge loss. It weeds out the weak and timid, and weeding out the weak and timid is the Klingon way. If only we had LESS TUTORIALS. But at least we get to skip 20 levels worth of tutorial material which was covered Fedside. Those first 20 levels are the worst, man. XP is shite, drops are shite...you do the same work, get paid a third as much.

 

[Zorgfin]

You're not going to get anything good out of season 7, trust me on this. If you keep waiting, you'll keep waiting indefinitely while the game slowly slides into shit. Best to get in before the Decline hits. Remember, Entropy Always Increases. Decline is inevitable and inexorable.

Race-wise, there's no playable Romulans and none coming down the pipe anytime soon. Even the thing you linked sort of shot it down in a wishy-washy manner. If they claim they're making Season 7 in 2 months, there is no way in hell they're going to pull that off in 2 months. As for paying $600 to be a Fed Klingon...eh. It's possible to make a 100% accurate Klingon in the Rubber Forehead Shop without paying anything. So what you're really paying for is a label (As if anyone can't tell what you are), and two traits of dubious value. Of course, using the Rubber Forehead Shop, you could hit two birds with one stone and play as both a Romulan and a Klingon. Those Romu-Klingons exist in canon, anyway.

there is also a large number of players who pass on playing in the KDF because you cannot build a KDF character as your first.

I don't actually feel that's a huge loss. It weeds out the weak and timid, and weeding out the weak and timid is the Klingon way. If only we had LESS TUTORIALS. But at least we get to skip 20 levels worth of tutorial material which was covered Fedside. Those first 20 levels are the worst, man. XP is shite, drops are shite...you do the same work, get paid a third as much.

You people are too negative about season 7, I mean if they promised these things, then why won't they deliver? I mean, keep in mind that this is a professional company, it isn't just going to lie to its customers for absolutely no reason, if they say they're gonna do these features, then I'm willing to believe them. I hope that they don't turn me down though.....

 

[SuicideBunny]

if they say they're gonna do these features, then I'm willing to believe them. I hope that they don't turn me down though.....

sure, but starter klingons are not for season 7, and romulans aren't either.
they are things that are further down the pipeline and will happen eventually (or not).
not to mention that klingons now are much better than they would be as a starter faction, because they get level easily without any grind.

your best course of action would be to start a fed, use codex fleet help to level it up till you unlock klinks, then dick around with your klink and enjoy the superior doff assignments, inherent coolness of their faction and the fact that as they are now, they don't require much grind to get to max.

 

[Zorgfin]

if they say they're gonna do these features, then I'm willing to believe them. I hope that they don't turn me down though.....

sure, but starter klingons are not for season 7, and romulans aren't either.
they are things that are further down the pipeline and will happen eventually (or not).
not to mention that klingons now are much better than they would be as a starter faction, because they get level easily without any grind.

your best course of action would be to start a fed, use codex fleet help to level it up till you unlock klinks, then dick around with your klink and enjoy the superior doff assignments, inherent coolness of their faction and the fact that as they are now, they don't require much grind to get to max.

Don't Klings cost 600 credits though, or is that old information? In any case, I'm gonna buite my tongue for now and just start a Fed character like everyone else. I'm gonna roll an Andorian Engineer, just thought maybe if you could give me some advice on traits and that kinda stuff, then that would be really nice of you. Oh, and is this website any good for trait builds? http://www.stowiki.org/Suggested_trait_builds

 

[Zarniwoop]

You people are too negative about season 7, I mean if they promised these things, then why won't they deliver? I mean, keep in mind that this is a professional company, it isn't just going to lie to its customers for absolutely no reason, if they say they're gonna do these features, then I'm willing to believe them. I hope that they don't turn me down though.....

Yeah, just like they promised to completely overhaul PvP in season 6 and then changed jack shit and now it's more empty than ever?

I'll believe it when I see it, thanks.

 

[SuicideBunny]

Don't Klings cost 600 credits though, or is that old information?

you're mixing up the klink faction and the klink fed race.
feds that want to make tng/ds9 worf clones need to pay muniez, while the klingon faction (not limited to klingons, see here) and a single klingon faction char slot if you're a f2p player unlock at lvl 24 or something like that.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Yea, starter KDF and Romulan faction were in the pipeline for next year's Most Wanted content, Season 7 is unchanged in its focus.

As for Ferengi traits, their Lobes trait is actually damn good, as it's essentially an improved version of Acute Senses with its vendor discount. Natural Immunities isn't good, but then again the best case a canon race can get is that they either have one good trait out of two or they have only one mandatory trait. However, this is NOT an issue because the effect most traits have is extremely minor, generally you'll just want the Accurate trait (all races have it available) for better hit ratio (it's one of the few traits that has a minor effect) and either Lucky, Acute Senses or Peak Health (these are the three usual ones, there's several other good ones) to improve your Ground performance (generally all traits that have +skill are of negligible effect and only of interest to the most anal retentive space-only warriors).

 

[Norfleet]

You people are too negative about season 7, I mean if they promised these things, then why won't they deliver? I mean, keep in mind that this is a professional company, it isn't just going to lie to its customers for absolutely no reason, if they say they're gonna do these features, then I'm willing to believe them. I hope that they don't turn me down though.....

Are you really that naive? Just going over the historical records reveals a veritable litany of lies. Yes, companies CAN AND WILL lie to customers. THEY DO THIS OFTEN, exploiting your belief that they WON'T. What's more, the game development industry, particularly in MMO, is plagued with pathological liars. You can pretty much never believe a WORD these people say. Lies and propaganda, all of it.

I'll believe it when I see it, thanks.

People who say "seeing is believing" have never heard of Photoshop. Believe nothing that claims to be good. Good is a lie. There is only decline, as inevitable and inexorable as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. ENTROPY ALWAYS INCREASES. THINGS ALWAYS GET WORSE.

Also, apparently I managed to boot myself off the chat again. When you're mass-leaving channels, it seems what is actually lit up on the select UI doesn't match the channel you actually end up leaving.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Total entropy OF THE UNIVERSE always increases. Localised decreases in entropy happen all the time, it's called life. Otherwise we wouldn't have new people, or new vidyagaemz. But yes I don't trust the Chinese overlords one bit actually. All the changes lately seem to be only geared to raking in more jewgolds faster and forcing us to play more.

Which reminds me, I'm logging in.

 

[SuicideBunny]

life is the fastest way to increase entropy, not in any way decrease it.