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[Vaarna_Aarne]

Rammed in some Dil, got all our projects underway. Also, who had queue'd Tactical and Science projects? We're trying to steam to Engineering T3, remember? I mean, we don't exactly need the buff provisions or ship/equipment provisions from those (do we?).

 

[Zarniwoop]

life is the fastest way to increase entropy, not in any way decrease it.

Yeah, TOTAL entropy of the environment is increased faster.

However lifeforms themselves are LOCAL decreases. Why always with the strawmen in this place? Apart from self replicating, we build shit. We concentrate matter and energy and order in places whereas the natural tendency is to dissipate. Just that in doing so we end up expending far more energy leading to more disorder overall.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Rammed in some Dil, got all our projects underway. Also, who had queue'd Tactical and Science projects? We're trying to steam to Engineering T3, remember? I mean, we don't exactly need the buff provisions or ship/equipment provisions from those (do we?).

What happened to the plan of switching to the KDF fleet?

 

[Norfleet]

Also, FYI: Could people avoid contributing fractional non-50-stack quantities of purchaseable commodities? It messes with the technical side of my procurement system, which is a pain in the ass: If you have fractional quantities, dump them in one of the fleet inventory tabs.

However lifeforms themselves are LOCAL decreases. Why always with the strawmen in this place? Apart from self replicating, we build shit. We concentrate matter and energy and order in places whereas the natural tendency is to dissipate. Just that in doing so we end up expending far more energy leading to more disorder overall.

This applies if you're decreasing YOUR local entropy by increasing someone ELSE's. Not if someone ELSE is around doing the same to YOU. In your immediate environment, anyone who is not on your side is an enemy.

Rammed in some Dil, got all our projects underway. Also, who had queue'd Tactical and Science projects? We're trying to steam to Engineering T3, remember? I mean, we don't exactly need the buff provisions or ship/equipment provisions from those (do we?).

My bad. I read on the forums that an unbalanced advancement would eventually cause problems and result in stalling out, and so when I saw those were lagging severely behind and both of the slots were empty...

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well, actually the thing they mean on the forums is that you shouldn't skip Tiers in the others and focus on a single one. The correct method is to raise each category in sequence (as the upgrade project takes 4 days to complete).

Rammed in some Dil, got all our projects underway. Also, who had queue'd Tactical and Science projects? We're trying to steam to Engineering T3, remember? I mean, we don't exactly need the buff provisions or ship/equipment provisions from those (do we?).

What happened to the plan of switching to the KDF fleet?

Not Tier 3 Starbase yet.

 

[Subject37]

Are we doing the "security" special project? I wasn't sure whether anyone was interested in spending 200k dil just to have some guards standing around the starbase, so I held off from contributing to that one. No one had put anything into it when I was last logged on earlier today.

 

[Wild Slop]

I know, it looks just awful. Can projects be cancelled or postponed?

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well, that too got slotted behind my back. Mary did the KDF one for Fleet Credits.

I know, it looks just awful. Can projects be cancelled or postponed?

Nope. But it will go away when the next one starts.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Are we doing the "security" special project? I wasn't sure whether anyone was interested in spending 200k dil just to have some guards standing around the starbase, so I held off from contributing to that one. No one had put anything into it when I was last logged on earlier today.

FED guards are faggots, the klinks look pretty sweet though.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Well, that too got slotted behind my back. Mary did the KDF one for Fleet Credits.

I know, it looks just awful. Can projects be cancelled or postponed?

Nope. But it will go away when the next one starts.

i don't think they do, people are still moaning that they have to farn rommy ale and rotgut just to clear that project from weeks ago.

 

[Norfleet]

It'll go away when the next project starts, assuming we haven't finished it out of boredom by then. If it doesn't, I'll make it go away.

On unrelated note, is it just me, or are Ferrengi the most distinctive race in the game? If you are a Ferengi on an STF, people addressing you will refer to you as "Ferengi". This does not happen to any other race.

 

[Emily]

Quick question:
Is it f2p or p2w? SErously what would i usualy spend real money on?

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Quick question:
Is it f2p or p2w? SErously what would i usualy spend real money on?

F2P. The only class of ships where the premium ships are notably better are Federation Cruisers, and that's got more to do with the fact that standard Cruisers are fundamentally flawed (Engineering BO abilities share too many cooldowns, making that many of them a liability). When it comes to other ships, the traditional consensus is that (for example) the best Federation Escort is the free Patrol Escort (this is discounting the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, but that's a special case altogether; the only premium non-Fleet Escort that really gives it a run for its money is the Heavy Escort Carrier), and for the most part premium ships are either a different playstyle or an exotic special ability (or just plain stylish). Mostly the thing with premium ships is that they might have something that perfectly fits your ideal playstyle (ie, a fast-moving minelayer Escort would be the endgame premium Defiant) or just looks great.

A far more fun thing is that the purchasable Ground equipment is way, WAYYYYY worse than what you can get ingame. The only perk to them is that the premium Lirpa looks p. cool.

Generally I'd say the bigger cash-draw is just things that make life easier, like inventory space (in case you haul around a ton of shit like I do, subscribing also adds more inventory space at level intervals) and Duty Officer slots (this is a big benefit); or gambling/ship-buying for Cool Stuff (tm), but ever since the Lockboxes most of the gambling Cool Stuff can be acquired on the Exchange for Credits too (a notable example of Cool Stuff that's worth it is the Subspace Jumper console and Ferengi Gambling Device). And then you have stuff like uniforms (hey, if you play a Cryptic MMO you're eventually gonna start playing with dolls at the Tailor, especially when you've got an entire cast of Bridge Officers to customize in addition to your Captain), special Bridge Officers and additional playable races (not that many actually, just Fed Klingons, Joined Trill and cat-people for both sides).

On unrelated note, is it just me, or are Ferrengi the most distinctive race in the game? If you are a Ferengi on an STF, people addressing you will refer to you as "Ferengi". This does not happen to any other race.

It's the Cartman Effect. But since you can't accurately be addressed as Jew, you're addressed as Ferengi.

 

[Norfleet]

Quick question:
Is it f2p or p2w? SErously what would i usualy spend real money on?

It's both. But you can get away without paying much of anything, if you're prepared to do some industrial-scale farmage. I've amassed over 9000 Zen from farming operations, and am getting the system down pat. If you have about $15 worth of funnymoney lying around on the Internet in some compatible form, it's definitely worth grabbing a month and doing some intensive farming, as you'll get extra boff/inv slots for ALL toons that should stick, AND respec tokens for each level gained during your month of intensive farmage.

I didn't really try terribly hard except at the end, but I was able to max out about 10 toons to level 50 in about two weeks, blank slates suitable for use as Doff/Dil farmers, and any build I might opt to explore in the future. With the infrastructure in place, if I'm ever given suffiicient motivation to go gold again, I'll probably crank out like another dozen or so.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I've amassed over 9000 Zen from farming operations

You cunt. I need levelling tips, i need more klingons.

 

[Norfleet]

Well, show up and hold stll, then. It's hard to teach anything when you have such a short attention span.

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Am out a bit myself again.. What you people doing when it feels you have done "everything" yet?
I liked the endgame content but looking at it now, it's seeming pretty sparse at best..
Can't find another MMO with that level of character customisability and ease-of-use..ness... though.. and don't say GW2, I've decided to skip that one for a variety of personal reasons, lol.

 

[Drakron]

What you people doing when it feels you have done "everything" yet?

Either you make a new character and go all over it with a different class or you take a break until something new shows up.

Another option is DOFF assignments to raise commendation but that is not really very involving and a lot of times you are waiting hours in-game (since the fucking thing works on internal clock) just for the sectors to reset (God damned colonial chains).

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I'd say looking for cool stuff in the Foundry is a great option.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Am out a bit myself again.. What you people doing when it feels you have done "everything" yet?
I liked the endgame content but looking at it now, it's seeming pretty sparse at best..
Can't find another MMO with that level of character customisability and ease-of-use..ness... though.. and don't say GW2, I've decided to skip that one for a variety of personal reasons, lol.

I'm not surprised you're burnt out, but you can always chill with us degenerates here at the DEX.

I can't imagine working on more klinks and the klink starbase would interest you much. Maybe we really should pull our finger out as a guild, i'm part of the problem i know.

I've also had an idea where as a group we play the most ugly, janky piece of shit free to play titles for lulz.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well, I think we can leave the Fleet shenanigans behind us soon. Tomorrow we will start the final stretch, the Industrial Fabricator T3 -> Starbase T3 -> Tailor.

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

I've already got uhmm... eight or so maxedish out characters? Starting over will NOT solve much of the issue here, haha :D I've funded some of the more pointless Starbase projects (BANNERZ) but I don't regret that. Just meaning I'm contributing less now than I used to.

I've also had an idea where as a group we play the most ugly, janky piece of shit free to play titles for lulz.

^ Well, count me in for sure! Rusty Hearts or Global Agenda anyone?

If I was to fully abandon STO though, I would have the fleet inherit my collection of valuable ships of course so I'm not quite there yet

 

[Emily]

So i have been fucking around with the char editor,what you think guys? xD

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well, regarding our contributing to the Fleet, like I said I think we're on the last stretch. After that, the projects are there just to generate Fleet Credits.

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

That character is a pick from the pre-sets, right? Look for the li'l 'Advanced' button in the options for full control over customisation, that's the best way to not look like everyone else

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

It also bears mention that you can change EVERYTHING about the way your character looks at any Tailor, including facial and body features.

 

[Norfleet]

I've already got uhmm... eight or so maxedish out characters?

Pah, 8? You call 8 a lot? I have *10*, and I've only been here like a month!

And if they continue to not notice that I unsubscribed and let me keep Gold, I will make MOAR! The POWER! UNLIMITED POWER!!!

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Your characters that run around with like no armor at all and white grade shields barely count as maxed out in my books, LOL.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

First step of three is nearly complete folks. Only Marks remain to be filled on the Industrial Fabricator! Sing a song of victory!




Anyway, I suggest you do not put Marks or Dil into the projects while Fagricator is building. Save them up, we'll need 10,800 Marks for Starbase III along with 648,000 Dilithium, 240 green non-civilian doffs (easy, thanks to Fleet doffs), 9,000 Industrial Energy Cells, 5,500 Self-Sealing Stem Bolts, and 100 Particle Traces.

After that it's the Tailor, where we'll need 2,400 Marks, 160,000 Dil, 15 purple quality civilian doffs, 180,000 Expertise (lol), and 2,500 Entertainment Provisions (that's one bored Tailor).