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Jeepers Creepers is trash. Halloween and F13 only horror licenses worth looking at.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117023/?ref_=ttep_ep4 one of the most cursed team-ups of all time, but I can respect the audacity of pairing those two up.
Other than Salva who was already mostly blacklisted, this ruined pretty much everyone involved.

And rightfully so.
 

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A game dev who has spent 17 years building fancy murder simulators, is saying pedophiles & pederasts are worse (and that Twiglard committed defamation per se — specifically libel) by starting a thread with other participants in which he stated false things about myself as matters of fact. Since I am a public figure, Twiglard may have the defense of “lacking actual malice.”

He also threatened to file a false police report which has other potential ramifications.

For now, I offered him the compromise, with consideration, to never message me privately again.
Getting back to the thread topic, can you explain line-for-line how Twiglard is guilty of "defamation per se — specifically libel"?

Because he isn't. His whole private message starts off by saying it may be a misunderstanding, and everything he says is conditional. "I'm worried that you're asking", "if you dox", "if this involves vigilantism".

As a big name legal guy, maybe explain to us how you'd go about suing someone for this and taking their house, car and weebsite website from them? (You won't.)
 

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A game dev who has spent 17 years building fancy murder simulators, is saying pedophiles & pederasts are worse (and that Twiglard committed defamation per se — specifically libel) by starting a thread with other participants in which he stated false things about myself as matters of fact. Since I am a public figure, Twiglard may have the defense of “lacking actual malice.”

He also threatened to file a false police report which has other potential ramifications.

For now, I offered him the compromise, with consideration, to never message me privately again.
Getting back to the thread topic, can you explain line-for-line how Twiglard is guilty of "defamation per se — specifically libel"?

Because he isn't. His whole private message starts off by saying it may be a misunderstanding, and everything he says is conditional. "I'm worried that you're asking", "if you dox", "if this involves vigilantism".

As a big name legal guy, maybe explain to us how you'd go about suing someone for this and taking their house, car and weebsite website from them? (You won't.)
I don’t give legal advice for free.

The tortious act is in this text block.

Within the context of that thread, I'm worried that you're asking, among other things, for vigilante justice on Codexers who engage in cartoon
pornography. I know that many people who engage in cartoon pornography depicting children are actually child molesters and abusers. But this is insufficient
evidence for anything. If you dox codexers for cartoon pornography (no matter what it depicts, but wasn't made out of child photos), you're going to get permanently banned, if this involves vigilantism then law enforcement will most likely be
contacted against you as well. You are a game developer, which is why I'm
giving you a longer explanation with a rationale. This isn't a warning for what you've already
done, but for possible future actions. You can make this post public for transparency reasons; I'm contacting you privately for your
own benefit.

His passive aggressive phrasing does not escape tort liability for defamation per se nor per quod.

Pay a lawyer friend and ask him if being passive aggressive gets you off the hook?

On the other hand, I’m obviously not going to sue twiglard, because it would be a huge waste of my time, fuck his.

You’re taking this way more serious than anyone ITT, including myself.

I just decided to throw a metaphorical grenade, since twiglard acted like a passive aggressive moron.

I have enjoyed the thread overall though, better than the 8,000 post agitprop Ukraine thread.
 

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His passive aggressive phrasing does not escape tort liability for defamation per se nor per quod.
He just asked you not to dox users or go after them IRL. People have done this before and caused the site (actual) legal problems apparently.
Pay a lawyer friend and ask him if being passive aggressive gets you off the hook?
Oh, so you can't justify your case? If you're going to make a threat, be specific about it.
On the other hand, I’m obviously not going to sue twiglard, because it would be a huge waste of my time, fuck his.
Yes, it would be, since you don't have a leg to stand on.
I just decided to throw a metaphorical grenade, since twiglard acted like a passive aggressive moron.
A grenade? Like a weapon? Interesting.
You’re taking this way more serious than anyone ITT, including myself.
Oh, so it was a joke? Is that why you asked him to forward it to all moderators?

Or did you just not want any other moderators to try to warn you about potentially problematic behavior?
You also shouldn’t confuse a man being definitive and abrasive with a man caring.

Maybe a problem with your father? I don’t know you.
Coming from you that's pretty funny. Overachiever who's so desperate for validation he brags on a random RPG site constantly.

Mom and dad probably should have hugged you more.
 
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His passive aggressive phrasing does not escape tort liability for defamation per se nor per quod.
He just asked you not to dox users or go after them IRL. People have done this before and caused the site (actual) legal problems apparently.
Pay a lawyer friend and ask him if being passive aggressive gets you off the hook?
Oh, so you can't justify your case? If you're going to make a threat, be specific about it.
On the other hand, I’m obviously not going to sue twiglard, because it would be a huge waste of my time, fuck his.
Yes, it would be, since you don't have a leg to stand on.
I just decided to throw a metaphorical grenade, since twiglard acted like a passive aggressive moron.
A grenade? Like a weapon? Interesting.
You’re taking this way more serious than anyone ITT, including myself.
Oh, so it was a joke? Is that why you asked him to forward it to all moderators?

Or did you just not want any other moderators to try to warn you about potentially problematic behavior?
You also shouldn’t confuse a man being definitive and abrasive with a man caring.

Maybe a problem with your father? I don’t know you.
Coming from you that's pretty funny. Overachiever who's so desperate for validation he brags on a random RPG site constantly.

Mom and dad probably should have hugged you more.
Try harder
 

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In all seriousness, the threat of frivolous lawsuits can cause fear and intimidation.

I would suggest Twiglard and DarkUnderlord speak to attorneys if anyone threatens them or any of the other staff with such suits. Especially if the person making said threat lives in a state with a civil extortion law on the books like California.

Who knows, maybe the guy who does it will be a really rich dumbass who posts his real name and address everywhere.
 

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In all seriousness, the threat of frivolous lawsuits can cause fear and intimidation.

I would suggest Twiglard and DarkUnderlord speak to attorneys if anyone threatens them or any of the other staff with such suits. Especially if the person making said threat lives in a state with a civil extortion law on the books like California.

Who knows, maybe the guy who does it will be a really rich dumbass who posts his real name and address everywhere.
You’re just begging for it aren’t you.
 

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In all seriousness, the threat of frivolous lawsuits can cause fear and intimidation.

I would suggest Twiglard and DarkUnderlord speak to attorneys if anyone threatens them or any of the other staff with such suits. Especially if the person making said threat lives in a state with a civil extortion law on the books like California.

Who knows, maybe the guy who does it will be a really rich dumbass who posts his real name and address everywhere.
You’re just begging for it aren’t you.
What am I begging for, Morty? A lawsuit? What are you going to threaten me with? I wasn't even speaking to you or about you.
 

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In all seriousness, the threat of frivolous lawsuits can cause fear and intimidation.

I would suggest Twiglard and DarkUnderlord speak to attorneys if anyone threatens them or any of the other staff with such suits. Especially if the person making said threat lives in a state with a civil extortion law on the books like California.

Who knows, maybe the guy who does it will be a really rich dumbass who posts his real name and address everywhere.
You’re just begging for it aren’t you.
What am I begging for, Morty? A lawsuit? What are you going to threaten me with? I wasn't even speaking to you or about you.
Attention? Approval from someone? Not sure. But you are desperate for it.
 

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How many cases have you actually won, if any, by the way?
I fully believe he's a successful lawyer. No one is perfect, and even the most successful people do and say stupid things and make asses of themselves in public.

IMO, Mark is likely a victim of his own success. He may have had his ass kissed for so long by people around him who ignore his flaws in order to get whatever performance out of him that he can't understand the simple concept that no one likes a braggart.

He reminds me of a spoiled child who throws a fit when the teacher corrects him, only said child may have the ability to be dangerous, if has the means to mess with others.

Frankly, I'm very afraid of him and I am extremely intimidated by his history of legal victories. I think that Twiglard should be afraid too.
 

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In all seriousness, the threat of frivolous lawsuits can cause fear and intimidation.

I would suggest @Twiglard and @DarkUnderlord speak to an attorneys if anyone threatens them or any of the other staff with such suits. Especially if the person making said threat lives in a state with a civil extortion law on the books like California.
My worry was with MLMarkland's original quoted post. I didn't expect him to chimp out in response, but in the process it became clear as to what he meant by that post, and other things he tends to brag about. Insulting Codex staff is an everyday occurence.

As for the absurd idea that my warning to him with Infi and Crispy as co-participants (who could've wanted to contradict me or be on the same page as to what's happening) constituted any form of defamation, there's no forum policy as to what should be done about frivolous legal threats. Many people here enjoy MLMarkland's posts. Making a bigger stink would ruin their fun. He can continue to act crazy in GD and GRPG and it's part of the forum experience.
 
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How many cases have you actually won, if any, by the way?
I fully believe he's a successful lawyer. No one is perfect, and even the most successful people do and say stupid things and make asses of themselves in public.

IMO, Mark is likely a victim of his own success. He may have had his ass kissed for so long by people around him who ignore his flaws in order to get whatever performance out of him that he can't understand the simple concept that no one likes a braggart.

He reminds me of a spoiled child who throws a fit when the teacher corrects him, only said child may have the ability to be dangerous, if has the means to mess with others.

Frankly, I'm very afraid of him and I am extremely intimidated by his history of legal victories. I think that Twiglard should be afraid too.
Twiglard you can rest easy. I’m not coming to Poland to take your car.
In all seriousness, the threat of frivolous lawsuits can cause fear and intimidation.

I would suggest @Twiglard and @DarkUnderlord speak to an attorneys if anyone threatens them or any of the other staff with such suits. Especially if the person making said threat lives in a state with a civil extortion law on the books like California.
My worry was with MLMarkland's original quoted post. I didn't expect him to chimp out in response, but in the process it became clear as to what he meant by that post, and other things he tends to brag about. Insulting Codex staff is an everyday occurence.

As for the absurd idea that my warning to him with Infi and Crispy as co-participants (who could've wanted to contradict me or be on the same page as to what's happening), there's no policy as to what should be done about frivolous legal threats. Many people here enjoy MLMarkland's posts. Making a bigger stink would ruin their fun. He can continue to act crazy in GD and GRPG and it's part of the forum experience.
apology accepted
 

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Whatever.

You know, Codex used to have a lawyer. Well, sort of unofficially. It was that one dude who I think got caught up in that whole GamerGate mess, but I can't remember his name.

I wonder if MLMarkland, esq., would mind taking his place. I mean you're probably a crappy lawyer despite your claim above, but us beggars can't be choosers.

Whaddya say there, ol' Marky Mark? Can we be your Funky Bunch?
 

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Let’s get back to Francis Ford Coppola covering up child rape and a child porn ring though, instead of twiglard’s midwit faux pas

If I had threatened to sue an administrator of a video game message board on said board, I'd want to change the subject as well.
 

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markland has been hiding his autism for over fifteen years producing horrible terrible games and investing all of the money in hair transplants... but a bald-faced liar he remains.....
 

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