Review Our Gothic 3 review

[Claw]

You have to realize that many Gothic fans are not really RPG fans. They like Gothic as a story-heavy action adventure game.
Many German fans are in love with the original combat system and prefer it out of principle, even though simplistic tactics already worked in it, so complaints to that effect are idiotic.

Also, many Gothic fans sound like whiny, spoiled teenagers who only call half a brain their own.

 

[Oarfish]

Of course, the major caveat with gothic 3 is getting the damn thing to run in the first place. It's beyond broken in Vista too.

 

[The_Nameless_Prick]

What makes it closer to oblivion that to the first 2 gothics? the bigger world?

I don't think anything makes it closer to Oblivion. I just think It's easier and more peripheral than G1 and G2. Besides, why the fuck are we STILL arguing over Gothic 1 & 2 vs. Gothic 3. All we can do right now is spread the word that G3 is better than Oblivion. That is the best we can do. I've already posted the review on many sites.

 

[Naked_Lunch]

Of course, the major caveat with gothic 3 is getting the damn thing to run in the first place. It's beyond broken in Vista too.

It's soooooo unbelievably worth it, though.

Freeing Cape Dun is easily one of the best gaming experiences I've had in a while. It felt like I was actually liberating it and take charge and being an active part in it, unlike Oblivion's plastic scenarios.

Utterly amazing game.

 

[Littlefizz]

* less interaction with the old key NPCs, Diego, Gorn and folks.

It's true there's less interaction, I haven't found them all yet but they seem to have less to say. Possibly this is a consequence of the dissapearance of chapters, no NPC had a lot to say in the others but they seemed to evolve through the chapters. However, i never thought dialog was the most important thing in gothic

* many small settlements, instead of a few big ones
* level-like design with little backtrackin

This is because the world is a lot bigger, can't say it bothers me; there's a lot more of exploring to do.

* more mainstream skillpoint system with many points to distribute.

This is possibly my biggest complaint about G3, too many points. I tend to explore and do a lot of quests, the game might become far too easy soon.

All we can do right now is spread the word that G3 is better than Oblivion

That battle is already lost, Bethesdas hype machine has proved much more efficient that PBs. Besides, thats their job, I'm busy enough playing the game

 

[The_Nameless_Prick]

All we can do right now is spread the word that G3 is better than Oblivion

That battle is already lost, Bethesdas hype machine has proved much more efficient that PBs. Besides, thats their job, I'm busy enough playing the game

Since when is Bethesda's PR vs. Pirannah Bytes PR the ONLY contributing factor towards likablity? I suggest if you wanna KEEP playing good games like Gothic 3, you will help spread the word unless you want every game in the future to be like Oblivion. Remember, Gothic 3 was just released in the U.S. a very short time ago, we still have time.

I'm sorry people if I sound like an annoying revolutionist, I just can't sit back and watch people play games that turn your brain into mud(crabs). I think we, of the Codex, should encourage constructive positive gaming. This is the last fucking time I'm saying it: GOTHIC 3 IS A GOOD PLACE TO START.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I agree. It is our job to spread words and support few remaining companies who make good games. Troika is already dead. Their games were buggy and unpolished, but I wish I had another Troika's game to play right now instead of flawless games like KOTOR2, Oblivion, and NWN2. Wait a second...

 

[Oarfish]

Utterly amazing game.

I believe you, I guess I will get to play it in a less buggy state in a few months. Bloody annoying having it lying around. I'll just have to sate myself with NWN2, M:TW2 and dark messiah.

 

[Volourn]

Troika is dead so VD had to eventually find another prime time developer's dick to suck! Might as well be Pirhana Bytes which creates RPGs thata re 80% combat!

VD's review in a nutshell: "Gothic 3 rocks because it's 80% combat! YAHOO!!!"

 

[Vault Dweller]

And I suppose KOTOR wasn't.

 

[Volourn]

Have you read my posts about KOTOR? R00fles!

 

[Vault Dweller]

Do you think it's a good game?

 

[The_Nameless_Prick]

Volley, why can't you just be a good little bitch and behave? YOUR Dumbfuck !!! should be replaced with Little Bitch! in purty pink letters.

 

[Volourn]

Good; not 'God's Gift To Gaming' great like you seem to feel G3 is. For a guy who brags about RPGs having too much combat you seem to have given G3 a huge flagwaving pass on it. i don't mind RPGs having lots of combat, heck I expect them to as RPGs (minus a few exemptions) have always had LOTS of combat.

Your main problem is you are so anti Oblviion you think making up for all of Oblivion's ass kisisng that if you do ane qual amount of G3 ass kissing it will make the world a better place. It won't - it just makes the world worse.

You are just as bad as Obsidian fanboys or people are so anti BIO that all the stuff that people bitched and moaned about NWN over that still exist in NWN2 are excused away that they'r eno big deal. R00fles!


P.S. I doubt KOTOR was 80% combat either but that's a whole 'nother issue.


"Volley, why can't you just be a good little bitch and behave? YOUR Dumbfuck !!! should be replaced with Little Bitch! in purty pink letters."

You want me to behave? you. can't. handle. me. when. I. behave. nobody. can.


P.S.S. There's a few ways to make me behave but I doubt anyone on the Codex can do the things requried to make it happen. Anyways, this threa disn't about me; but about VD's review.

 

[Littlefizz]

Since when is Bethesda's PR vs. Pirannah Bytes PR the ONLY contributing factor towards likablity? I suggest if you wanna KEEP playing good games like Gothic 3, you will help spread the word unless you want every game in the future to be like Oblivion. Remember, Gothic 3 was just released in the U.S. a very short time ago, we still have time.

Don't get me wrong, I do think (or hope) G3 will sell reasonably well, at least enough to keep PB alive; even some non-retarded reviews do it some justice and describe the game beyond the performance problems.

It's just that it has that Troika smell (TM) around it, good game, many people seem to like it (not talking about Volly here) but all I hear about it is that it has bugs that I never experience... that brings the pessimistic in me.

 

[The_Nameless_Prick]

There's a few ways to make me behave but I doubt anyone on the Codex can do the things requried to make it happen.

Sig material?

 

[Volourn]

"many people seem to like it (not talking about Volly here)"

Just to point out, I don't hate G3. In fact, I'm downloading the demo right now and have only forked cash over to buy it.

My posts in this thread are more directed at VD who seems to priase the heck out of G3 despite it sharing many similarities with games he bashes.

 

[Jasede]

There's a few ways to make me behave but I doubt anyone on the Codex can do the things requried to make it happen.

I think I know someone who could... accommodate you.

 

[Vault Dweller]

My posts in this thread are more directed at VD who seems to priase the heck out of G3 despite it sharing many similarities with games he bashes.

All games have similarities. Hey, I liked ToEE and it's 95% about combat. Go figure, eh?

 

[The_Nameless_Prick]

My posts in this thread are more directed at VD who seems to priase the heck out of G3 despite it sharing many similarities with games he bashes.

My original plan WAS to let you and VD work that out, but i couldn't resist pointing out the Little Bitch ! logo that I reccomend and I think fits you so well.

 

[Top Hat]

Why are there two threads on the review, both of which started by Vault Dweller?

Next thing you'll know, they'll be a news post about the news post on RPG Watch about the review.

If one was made in anticipation of Volourn's r00fling, that's fine, I suppose.

 

[Volourn]

It's the way the Codex Staff does business. if you don't like it you can fuckin' whine like me, or get the fuck out!

So you wannabe be like me or your own person!?! The choice is YOURS.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Why are there two threads on the review, both of which started by Vault Dweller?

One is from the content section that must be filled when one posts an article, it's posted automatically. The other is from the news section (goes to the front page), informing folks that we have some new content. That's how it was done from day one, way before I joined the site. Any other questions?

 

[merry andrew]

I tried the demo, which ran oke at medium-low settings, but didn't make it past the opener because I thought it was lame to start the game (and tutorial, no less) with a large battle. I understand that the world of Gothic is incredibly violent, and I thoroughly enjoyed the first two of the series for that reason among many others... but the fun for me was being able to make my way through that world without needing to be violent. I don't want to be forced into story-centric (as opposed to gameworld-centric, i.e. being attacked by wildlife) fights just for the hell of it. I get the feeling that I won't be able to play like that through this latest installment.

Maybe I'll pick it up when I get a better rig and have more interest. Anyone with a similar mindset have any luck with this one?

 

[Vault Dweller]

If you don't like to fight the starting battle, then run away and go straight to Cape Dun or start exploring. It's not like the starting area is locked until the enemies are defeated.