Incline Path of Exile 2 - now available on Early Access

[Kane]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

 

[Kruyurk]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

Play as the monk, don't try to gain loot or power, don't pursue the fleeting pleasure of fun, instead observe, be mindful of the present moment, then you will attain inner peace.

 

[POOPERSCOOPER]

Is the game good?

 

[frajaq]

Is the game good?

yes but a lot of work needs to be put into it

I dunno how GGG is gonna solve the Item Rarity drama

 

[TedNugent]

Is the game good?

yes but a lot of work needs to be put into it

I dunno how GGG is gonna solve the Item Rarity drama

Probably by making a crafting system that isn't based on using rare orbs to roll RNG slot machine for affixes line by line

But being realistic they'll probably do something lazy like increase the drop rates.

 

[abija]

Is the game good?

If they didn't own the company they'd be fired for pushing elements the players hate and wasting too much time on irrelevant shit (like active block). It looks like it would take 1-2yrs to even be feature complete on this basic version of the game, nevermind balance and improvements.

Apart from graphics and AAA feel of the campaign, bosses are the only good thing it has over poe1 atm.

 

[ArchAngel]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

It is already fun. At least first 3 Acts are super cool. All 6 would be if game became harder after 3 Acts (or of similar hardness) instead of easier. Then endgame is ruined by some builds doing 100x more damage then other builds and many builds doing 50x more damage and lots doing 10x more..
I've just seen a pathfinder poison concoction build kill ultimate endgame boss in few seconds.

 

[ArchAngel]

Is the game good?

If they didn't own the company they'd be fired for pushing elements the players hate and wasting too much time on irrelevant shit (like active block). It looks like it would take 1-2yrs to even be feature complete on this basic version of the game, nevermind balance and improvements.

Apart from graphics and AAA feel of the campaign, bosses are the only good thing it has over poe1 atm.

It will take 1 year or more, that is for sure. Feels like PoE1 beta again but more unbalanced as they put in endgame without any real testing or balancing and decided to use all the players for that.
I still cannot go back to PoE1 even after this beta, even in this state it fees like a better game. Also lots of new skills and classes to test.

 

[ArchAngel]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.
Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system... but game balance is so bad atm that after doing campaign and running 40 maps or so I have not seen move speed boots with more than 15% movespeed and usable other stats. I have also not seen a hybrid ES/EV chest with more than 300 evasion.. buying is truly the only option you have. And boots only cost me like 1ex and chest 3ex.. I already hated this shit in PoE1 where unless you are a mastercrafter you always wanted to buy your stuff but at least we had that crafting bench and I could gear up for white and yellow maps and do those and when I would reach red maps I could choose to enter trading or quit playing.

Anyways, after that I switched from quasi MOM to full EV/ES for defenses with Grim Reaper and Ghost Dance... now I am basically unkillable on lower level maps I am in but my damage still sucks big time and there is no real way to fix Essence Drain. Even with 6l it will never do anything awesome as there are no good ways to scale its damage unlike what other builds can do. I am now doing tier 6 and 7 maps and if there are magic enemies in the fight I am 4 button warrior to kill them in reasonable time (around 5s), that is how bad this skill is. But just recently I found out best way to apply Wither is not with a Wither totem but by using Eye of Winter with Unleash and Wither support. People are also using that trick to apply max stack Critical Weakness in one cast.

I am also now really looking to change skill but I want to stay in theme of Necro so I would switch to BoneStorm for bossing and Detonate Dead for clearing. Both are doing physical damage and are good with critical hits. Detonate Dead also seems to be really good for Breach and similar mechanics which is where you get most of your loot.

 

[Matador]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.
Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system... but game balance is so bad atm that after doing campaign and running 40 maps or so I have not seen move speed boots with more than 15% movespeed and usable other stats. I have also not seen a hybrid ES/EV chest with more than 300 evasion.. buying is truly the only option you have. And boots only cost me like 1ex and chest 3ex.. I already hated this shit in PoE1 where unless you are a mastercrafter you always wanted to buy your stuff but at least we had that crafting bench and I could gear up for white and yellow maps and do those and when I would reach red maps I could choose to enter trading or quit playing.

Currently at cruel act 3. I found 25% movement speed bots at cruel act 2, I saw 20% ones recently. Defenses will be deprecated soon, but man, how much a difference a 10% extra movements speed makes. I won´t replace them just for defenses.

By the way, fuck all people trying to make me buy items in the market. That´s lazy game design. Just make a non random, well designed crafted system.

I don´t like trading, I like to be rewarded with good items killing bosses or be able to craft good ones with what I find in the dungeons. It´s also cumbersome to buy from other players.

 

[ArchAngel]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.
Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system... but game balance is so bad atm that after doing campaign and running 40 maps or so I have not seen move speed boots with more than 15% movespeed and usable other stats. I have also not seen a hybrid ES/EV chest with more than 300 evasion.. buying is truly the only option you have. And boots only cost me like 1ex and chest 3ex.. I already hated this shit in PoE1 where unless you are a mastercrafter you always wanted to buy your stuff but at least we had that crafting bench and I could gear up for white and yellow maps and do those and when I would reach red maps I could choose to enter trading or quit playing.

Currently at cruel act 3. I found 25% movement speed bots at cruel act 2, I saw 20% ones recently. Defenses will be deprecated soon, but man, how much a difference a 10% extra movements speed makes. I won´t replace them just for defenses.

By the way, fuck all people trying to make me buy items in the market. That´s lazy game design. Just make a non random, well designed crafted system.

I don´t like trading, I like to be rewarded with good items killing bosses or be able to craft good ones with what I find in the dungeons. It´s also cumbersome to buy from other players.

I agree but at this point I am wasting my time on shitty design so that is why I decided to trade. In PoE1 by the time I reach red maps and need to trade to progress I usually just quit. System is not good there either. To craft gear that will let non meta build do red maps without big problems is not a simple task and even harder if you were not selling shit on the way and got currency to exchange for crafting currency you need. It is a bit easier now due to automatic currency exchange but for PoE2 there is nothing to buy. No Harvest, Delve, essences are crap, even greater essences are just glorified regal orbs and others.

If I was swimming in Exalts and Alchemy like how I got Transmutations and Augumentations I would risk more of them into crafting. I've already used about 10ex during leveling and start of endgame to try to turn some items into a bit better ones, I am not sure I ever got a mod that I was very satisfied with and most of the time it was something really useless with a bad roll. Funniest part was when I was still using Demon Form and trying to keep my max life low but kept getting life rolls on gear I would ex...

 

[Ba'al]

If they didn't own the company

GGG is fully owned by Tencent.

 

[ArchAngel]

And one would think, if passive tree and supports for chaos DoT are bad surly there are good uniques you can base your build around.
Then I go to poe2db and go to list of uniques and filter by chaos. I got two whole weapon uniques and both have a mod like this: Gain 3% of Damage as Chaos Damage per
https://poe2db.tw/us/The_Dark_Defiler

The trick is that bonus does not work with DoT part of chaos spells, only the hitting part. There is a similar passive on tree like that and when you put a point into it, it does nothing for DoT part.

 

[abija]

GGG is fully owned by Tencent.

They didn't get involved so far (outside of China). PoE2 is completely on the bosses at GGG.

 

[Matador]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.
Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system... but game balance is so bad atm that after doing campaign and running 40 maps or so I have not seen move speed boots with more than 15% movespeed and usable other stats. I have also not seen a hybrid ES/EV chest with more than 300 evasion.. buying is truly the only option you have. And boots only cost me like 1ex and chest 3ex.. I already hated this shit in PoE1 where unless you are a mastercrafter you always wanted to buy your stuff but at least we had that crafting bench and I could gear up for white and yellow maps and do those and when I would reach red maps I could choose to enter trading or quit playing.

Currently at cruel act 3. I found 25% movement speed bots at cruel act 2, I saw 20% ones recently. Defenses will be deprecated soon, but man, how much a difference a 10% extra movements speed makes. I won´t replace them just for defenses.

By the way, fuck all people trying to make me buy items in the market. That´s lazy game design. Just make a non random, well designed crafted system.

I don´t like trading, I like to be rewarded with good items killing bosses or be able to craft good ones with what I find in the dungeons. It´s also cumbersome to buy from other players.

I agree but at this point I am wasting my time on shitty design so that is why I decided to trade. In PoE1 by the time I reach red maps and need to trade to progress I usually just quit. System is not good there either. To craft gear that will let non meta build do red maps without big problems is not a simple task and even harder if you were not selling shit on the way and got currency to exchange for crafting currency you need. It is a bit easier now due to automatic currency exchange but for PoE2 there is nothing to buy. No Harvest, Delve, essences are crap, even greater essences are just glorified regal orbs and others.

If I was swimming in Exalts and Alchemy like how I got Transmutations and Augumentations I would risk more of them into crafting. I've already used about 10ex during leveling and start of endgame to try to turn some items into a bit better ones, I am not sure I ever got a mod that I was very satisfied with and most of the time it was something really useless with a bad roll. Funniest part was when I was still using Demon Form and trying to keep my max life low but kept getting life rolls on gear I would ex...

I'm going to finish cruel act3 and wait some months until they flesh out (or not) everything.

For an early access I enjoyed the game quite a bit. Good campaign, I don't want to burn out on endgame when it's not finished.

30 eur well spent and satiated my itch for some ARPG time, still has some annoying things. Hope they improve them and it becomes a great game.

 

[TedNugent]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.
Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system... but game balance is so bad atm that after doing campaign and running 40 maps or so I have not seen move speed boots with more than 15% movespeed and usable other stats. I have also not seen a hybrid ES/EV chest with more than 300 evasion.. buying is truly the only option you have. And boots only cost me like 1ex and chest 3ex.. I already hated this shit in PoE1 where unless you are a mastercrafter you always wanted to buy your stuff but at least we had that crafting bench and I could gear up for white and yellow maps and do those and when I would reach red maps I could choose to enter trading or quit playing.

Currently at cruel act 3. I found 25% movement speed bots at cruel act 2, I saw 20% ones recently. Defenses will be deprecated soon, but man, how much a difference a 10% extra movements speed makes. I won´t replace them just for defenses.

By the way, fuck all people trying to make me buy items in the market. That´s lazy game design. Just make a non random, well designed crafted system.

I don´t like trading, I like to be rewarded with good items killing bosses or be able to craft good ones with what I find in the dungeons. It´s also cumbersome to buy from other players.

I agree but at this point I am wasting my time on shitty design so that is why I decided to trade. In PoE1 by the time I reach red maps and need to trade to progress I usually just quit. System is not good there either. To craft gear that will let non meta build do red maps without big problems is not a simple task and even harder if you were not selling shit on the way and got currency to exchange for crafting currency you need. It is a bit easier now due to automatic currency exchange but for PoE2 there is nothing to buy. No Harvest, Delve, essences are crap, even greater essences are just glorified regal orbs and others.

If I was swimming in Exalts and Alchemy like how I got Transmutations and Augumentations I would risk more of them into crafting. I've already used about 10ex during leveling and start of endgame to try to turn some items into a bit better ones, I am not sure I ever got a mod that I was very satisfied with and most of the time it was something really useless with a bad roll. Funniest part was when I was still using Demon Form and trying to keep my max life low but kept getting life rolls on gear I would ex...

I'm going to finish cruel act3 and wait some months until they flesh out (or not) everything.

For an early access I enjoyed the game quite a bit. Good campaign, I don't want to burn out on endgame when it's not finished.

30 eur well spent and satiated my itch for some ARPG time, still has some annoying things. Hope they improve them and it becomes a great game.

That's pretty much the short of it.

My NVIDIA driver got busted on Linux right as I was about to complete Act 3 Cruel, so I might just wait anyway. Probably a good time to take a break rather than playing the exact same shit over again ad nauseum. "End game" is usually where games jump the shark anyway, and its actually usually a bad place to end up.

I am pretty excited to see the new melee weapons, especially considering they'll doubtless be taking a lot of feedback into account, and there's four of them still to come, so hopefully at least one of them will be really cool.

I see what they were going for with the ground pounder mace, but it's unconventional to say the least.

The campaign was fun, good difficulty curve, but it really was the best part of the experience thus far, and I was dreading the whole "maps" thing anyway.

 

[Latelistener]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.

You need to farm 1 or 2 level trials to get a decent Honour resist first (up to 75%). This along with moving speed are most useful bonuses.

Unless your build is busted, most likely you won't be able to get 3rd Ascendancy without decent bonuses. Even my Infernalist comrade had to farm it first.

Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system...

There are tens of thousands of results on poe trading site that matches 30%+ Movement Speed bonus and most of them are quite cheap. I bought mine for 1 Exalt in a matter of seconds and it even has 1 resist stat.

You just push "Direct Whisper", receive a party, jump to them and exchange: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/vqJMMqXsE

 

[ArchAngel]

As for my Essence Drain attempt, did Trial of Sekhema yesterday to get my 3rd Ascendancy and died again at boss at end of lvl 2 due to being too slow and doing too little damage.

You need to farm 1 or 2 level trials to get a decent Honour resist first (up to 75%). This along with moving speed are most useful bonuses.

Unless your build is busted, most likely you won't be able to get 3rd Ascendancy without decent bonuses. Even my Infernalist comrade had to farm it first.

Then I decided to finally try out trade to upgrade my shit and spent 2 hours looking for and messaging people just to buy decent 25% move speed boots and over 700 evasion chest.. this is exactly the reason why I avoid trading with this shitty system...

There are tens of thousands of results on poe trading site that matches 30%+ Movement Speed bonus and most of them are quite cheap. I bought mine for 1 Exalt in a matter of seconds and it even has 1 resist stat.

You just push "Direct Whisper", receive a party, jump to them and exchange: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/vqJMMqXsE

I know how shit works. But I am doing it on Xbox that forces you to use same shit UI as PC while PoE1 had its own trading interface and no need to whisper to join anyone in hideout. You just open a trade screen from anywhere, see what currency people are offering for your shit and click accept or reject.
But here people just ignore you and you do not know why.

 

[darkpatriot]

The honor mechanic for ascendancy is a dumb mechanic. I built my character up around tanking damage so far (focused on energy shield initially but I am now working towards making it to +melee damage nodes), but suddenly I'm no longer allowed to tank damage when trying to ascend even if my character has no issue actually surviving the damage since they are specialized in it.

Retarded.

 

[Israfael]

Sanctum was wisely moved to optional content in PoE1 because it clearly is not tailored to every build and gameplay style. For some reason GGG 'forgot' all the lessons of last few years in PoE1 and forces the most unpopular things (uhuhuh, lets add mobs with unavoidable damage aura and random mods into Sanctum instead of static unique guardians that can be learned and predicted) onto the playerbase, which even paid streamers like Ziz have to notice and complain about. In the end, the game is a chore at any difficulty level and is simply pain and unfun to run in SSF with non FOTM classes/specs (which is compounded with the lack of crafting, life mods in the bottom-left part of the tree (people who start top and top-right are playing poe1.5 instead of this ruthless 2.0 like bottom half does). Adding three different bosses into Ultimatum is just a cherry on this organic 'sundae' top - even if you kill them very quickly, you'd still have a chance to get one shot by tornado or whatnot, and if you don't, you'll get killed while pressing the level for 10 seconds and getting yellow mobs teleported into your face. Much challenge, gitgud lol

 

[Matador]

Completed the first endgame map and felt boring. See you guys in couple of months.

 

[lukaszek]

i like new mapping. Not sure though how quickly ill get bored of finding more towers over the horizon. T4s are hard to sustain

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

by the time you're in t4 you should have plenty of regals. make sure you run your maps rare, invest in waystone quantity. I had no problems with sustain all the way to 15.

 

[lukaszek]

decided to give monk a spin. Im experienced with ssf 2nd character power boost, but freezing and stunning bosses is new to me.

how do melees handle firing squads?

 

[ArchAngel]

decided to give monk a spin. Im experienced with ssf 2nd character power boost, but freezing and stunning bosses is new to me.

how do melees handle firing squads?

Dodge, block or have high evasion.