Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[Joseph Stalin]

I didn't say that Feyspeaker cannot be a capable melee presence, what I said was that 1/2 BAB hurts it, and that that stat distribution is not optimal.

From my perspective I'm not certain that giving up 3/4 BAB and all the bonuses you get from, for example, DOTW, is worth the bonus spells that Feyspeaker gets access to, not to mention that it's much more MAD due to reliance on CHA

Feyspeaker, in conjunction with a Thasillonian Specialist (Conjuration), is a great combination for a Mystic Theurge:

1. Take Feyspeaker (Fire Domain).
2. Take Thassilonian Specialist (Conjuration).
3. Install "Call of the Wild" (for those extra druid spells) and "Favored Class" (for traits).
4. Pick "Magical Knack" as a trait. That way you will gain caster levels in both classes until hitting Mystic Theurge.
5. With Thasillonian Specialist, you gain additional TWO spell slots per spell level. And what do you lose. Evocation and Illusion spells...
6. Feyspeaker has Illusion spells, and the Fire Domain will restore some of those Evocation spells. You also gain an additional spell slot per spell level.
7. You'll be swimming in spells very quickly, and won't lose any of their power thanks to Magical Knack.
8. Since you need both Intelligence and Charisma, items which increase both, like the Crown, will give you a double dip, adding spell slots to both classes.
9. "Call of the Wild" also restores Spell Synergy, the 10th level Mystic Theurge ability allowing you to cast two spells at once.
10. Take Aasimar (Peri-Blooded) as race, since they gain +2 to both Charisma and Intelligence. That extra offensive spell is also useful.
11. Take Viper as Familiar. If you boost your Charisma to 18, you'll start with 12 points in Diplomacy, and be a glass cannon and skill monkey simultaneously.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

And now a question from me: I'm about to start playing as an Arcanist (Occultist), whilst also using the Favored Class mod. I'm at a fork on the road - should I pick Human for those extra spells, or Elf for those sweet Arcane Reservoir points?

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Desiderius I have been trying to find a "gentleman swordsman" type build you posted, to no avail. It was a combination of Paladin, Duelist, Aldori Swordlord, and a few other splashes I think. It focused on using the dueling sword and combat maneuvers. Does any of that ring a bell? I'd be grateful if you could post it for me. I'm messing with builds for my next run, and it was fully fleshed version of a concept I was considering at the time. I tried to PM you, but was unable. Could you link me or message it to me? I'd be grateful.

 

[Ramnozack]

And now a question from me: I'm about to start playing as an Arcanist (Occultist), whilst also using the Favored Class mod. I'm at a fork on the road - should I pick Human for those extra spells, or Elf for those sweet Arcane Reservoir points?

Pretty sure the 'extra spell' thing is just learning an extra spell, not getting another prepared spell slot if that's what you were thinking. I would play human for the bonus feat myself, extra reservoir isn't that great, you get all the reservoir you need by consuming spells.

 

[Desiderius]

Desiderius I have been trying to find a "gentleman swordsman" type build you posted, to no avail. It was a combination of Paladin, Duelist, Aldori Swordlord, and a few other splashes I think. It focused on using the dueling sword and combat maneuvers. Does any of that ring a bell? I'd be grateful if you could post it for me. I'm messing with builds for my next run, and it was fully fleshed version of a concept I was considering at the time. I tried to PM you, but was unable. Could you link me or message it to me? I'd be grateful.

Maybe start here?

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/posts/6592812/

 

[RK47]

Recommend a class for this portrait.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Traditional monk.

 

[Desiderius]

Recommend a class for this portrait.

Arcane Bomber or Sensei.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Recommend a class for this portrait:

What about this one?

Get your fix here!
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/166

 

[Desiderius]

Recommend a class for this portrait

What about this one?

Get your fix here!
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/166

No class detected.

 

[Yosharian]

You appear to have wandered into the wrong thread

 

[oldmanpaco]

You appear to have wandered into the wrong thread

Sure it's fine when it's a fat Asian portrait but as soon as a few fierce women show up it's the wrong thread.

 

[Yosharian]

This is an example of a fierce woman:

Spoiler

What you posted is fetish porn.

 

[Delterius]

thread ruined forever

 

[NJClaw]

thread ruined forever

Cancel the sequel

 

[oldmanpaco]

This is an example of a fierce woman:

Spoiler

What you posted is fetish porn.

Hey that was from the front page of the nexus! I just shared.

 

[LannTheStupid]

If someone thinks that portrait is not an important part of the build... well, they are not able to read, so there is no point writing to them.

 

[RK47]

OK so I understood the undead elf had a lot of good perks. And she can even touch herself with negative energy to heal herself.
Now, how do I make her into the main tank?
Do I just stick with Inquisitor or multi her into something else?
And I don't quite get the distinction between channel energy to heal undead and channel energy to damage living.
Why can't both effect be under a single action?

On another note... how do you guys use Harrim the boring cleric?

 

[oldmanpaco]

Rereading this page I just realized that Delterius and Desiderius are two separate posters.


The things you learn when you trigger people with stronk women.

 

[Yosharian]

OK so I understood the undead elf had a lot of good perks. And she can even touch herself with negative energy to heal herself.
Now, how do I make her into the main tank?
Do I just stick with Inquisitor or multi her into something else?
And I don't quite get the distinction between channel energy to heal undead and channel energy to damage living.
Why can't both effect be under a single action?

On another note... how do you guys use Harrim the boring cleric?

I have a Jaethal build on my Steam page

 

[Desiderius]

Rereading this page I just realized that Delterius and Desiderius are two separate posters.


The things you learn when you trigger people with stronk women.

Are you referring to their odor?

 

[Desiderius]

OK so I understood the undead elf had a lot of good perks. And she can even touch herself with negative energy to heal herself.
Now, how do I make her into the main tank?
Do I just stick with Inquisitor or multi her into something else?
And I don't quite get the distinction between channel energy to heal undead and channel energy to damage living.
Why can't both effect be under a single action?

On another note... how do you guys use Harrim the boring cleric?

You can save yourself a lot of time by just trying straight Inquisitor first.

 

[Delterius]

On another note... how do you guys use Harrim the boring cleric?

Give him a bunch of shield feats to combine with Valerie, plus being a cleric with all the goodies they get.

Tbh he's effective.

 

[Desiderius]

Shield feats are pretty weak, unless you’re talking about bashing which Harrim lacks the DEX to do (unless you make him a Slayer or Ranger, which can be fun with his companion quest weapon).

Harrim gets + 4 AC vs giants (including Trolls and Zombie Giants) so is good for ch. 2 and 4.

Tbh, Archon’s Aura and Touch of Chaos is better action economy than what most other toons are doing, and you’ve also got all the utility.

 

[Delterius]

I mean he's got all the use he needs by virtue of being a Cleric. He might as well give Valerie 2 AC from just being there. With back to back its 4 AC against flankers and so on.