Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Xeon]

Wonder if the next game could possibly have turn based if it gets a lot of votes.

 

[Incendax]

Looks like they are considering Turn Based for the console crowd.

 

[Ibbz]

They have posted a survey on their twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/OwlcatGames/status/1114224712903737345

At least they're aware of the criticisms of the Companion AI (considering half the question are about it) - hopefully they significantly improve it for the sequel / future patches.

 

[Yosharian]

I think the main thing that sticks out is how I never get dispelled. Basically only those Dweomercats ever dispelled me, otherwise I never saw any caster attempt to dispel my party's buffs.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't like getting dispelled, but it's kind of an unfair advantage when I can walk into every fight buffed up to the eyeballs and not fear any dispels, even from tough casters like Vordakai.

 

[Fedora Master]

The Wild Hunt can dispel as well but that's about it.
Worse, enemies never really buff themselves either.

 

[Daidre]

Enemy alchemists start with mutagen and Shield all the time, several Bandit Mages start fights with Haste on everyone. All Wisp-bosses use Shield for Magic Missile Immunity and recast it if dispelled. Even Stag Lord wastes time on Barkskin.
Lich with Seamantle and all end-game bosses cast buffs too - and often die in couple of rounds because of it.

Casters in P:K do not have a cheats like loaded Spell Triggers in BG, so it is hard to notice their attempts on lower difficulties.

 

[Yosharian]

Enemy alchemists start with mutagen and Shield all the time, several Bandit Mages start fights with Haste on everyone. All Wisp-bosses use Shield for Magic Missile Immunity and recast it if dispelled. Even Stag Lord wastes time on Barkskin.
Lich with Seamantle and all end-game bosses cast buffs too - and often die in couple of rounds because of it.

Casters in P:K do not have a cheats like loaded Spell Triggers in BG, so it is hard to notice their attempts on lower difficulties.

It's absolutely reasonable that a dungeon boss should start fights buffed, they have tons of minions to warn them of incoming adventurers after all.

 

[Cael]

The Wild Hunt can dispel as well but that's about it.
Worse, enemies never really buff themselves either.

You are going to end up with a situation like in the Gold Box games where every caster starts buffed to the max, which is bloody painful when it includes fireshield.

 

[Shadenuat]

Dispel is not great

At normal stats it's nearly not as dangerous or a hard counter and monsters might fail
At super stats it strips you of all and everything which is not very fair

With Pathfinder spells and rules even if monsters would dispel, it still won't feel like BG2 onion peeling.

finished survery, wrote them to play Stratagems and rated all companion AI importance as 1 cause why would you not micro your dudes yourself??

 

[Fedora Master]

I turned Valerie into a Kinetic Knight and now she's actually much more useful.

 

[HoboForEternity]

i did the survey and my top #1 wishlist really is just the ability to know enemies active buffs or debuffs without scrolling trough combat logs that moves like a god damn speedforce in big combat.

say what you want about deadfire, the UI in that game is still the most intuitive, polished and comfortable infinity engine like game.

 

[Efe]

id liek to get a roudn to play varnhold soon, was druid companion news a joke or did they really add one?
how does kinetic knight's weapon work? do you leave main hand empty?

 

[drgames]

Pillars of eternity 2 has a good and complex companion AI system. I wish they take inspiration from it.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

I'm in The Other World in Bloom chapter, and boy, did I allow things to turn to shit! My kingdom is rioting because of all the sickness and magical monsters in the land and if I don't defeat the Mother's psychedelic cunt-womb or whatever it is, I'm doomed. A lot of people complain about the deadly timers in P:KM but that just makes it feel even more like classic cRPGs and gives it a much needed sense of urgency. It's also classic in the sense that some of its puzzles seem illogical, or at least this one does, trying to navigate that misty multi-colored nightmare realm. I'm ashamed to admit that I had to glance at a walk-through. And yes, I'm prepared to restart that mission that feels like I've got a shotgun poking my ass from behind and could end at any time with the complete collapse of my barony.

 

[ArchAngel]

Don't need to restart. Kingdom rioting is part of the story for that chapter. It has nothing to do with how you managed it.

 

[Incendax]

Pillars of eternity 2 has a good and complex companion AI system. I wish they take inspiration from it.

While I appreciate that Pillars 2 made a vague attempt, Dragon Age: Origins had a MUCH better system. Even Final Fantasy XII, whatever other flaws it may have had, possessed a pretty good tactics system. I'm surprised more games don't copy them.

 

[Xeon]

i did the survey and my top #1 wishlist really is just the ability to know enemies active buffs or debuffs without scrolling trough combat logs that moves like a god damn speedforce in big combat.

say what you want about deadfire, the UI in that game is still the most intuitive, polished and comfortable infinity engine like game.

I think someone said you can see info if you press Y or something, or there is an option to Inspect iirc but you need Nature skill I think.

 

[drgames]

They are thinking a turn-base mode?

 

[Shadenuat]

They are thinking what can the do to sell as much as DoS 2. (I hope also "without turning our game into casul shit").

 

[drgames]

They are thinking what can the do to sell as much as DoS 2. (I hope also "without turning our game into casul shit").

Stunning graphics, and I doubt they have enough budget for that. And due to the nature of the game, they can't turn the game into casual MMO shit.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

Don't need to restart. Kingdom rioting is part of the story for that chapter. It has nothing to do with how you managed it.

No, I farted around too much by the time I got to the Goblin Fort and did end up getting the dreaded "Game Over" message about 3-4 days days later so I made sure to reload a save and streamline my time after the Goblin Fort. I'm in the Other World and have about 3 days before my Barony stats start to drop and it's the end. I'm cutting it close... too close, but I'm hoping that by defeating the Mother my kingdom gets at least some stability back and I can continue as usual. However, if the Lama Womb quest isn't the quest that frees your kingdom of the plague and monster invasion then I'm completely fucked.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Pillars of eternity 2 has a good and complex companion AI system. I wish they take inspiration from it.

While I appreciate that Pillars 2 made a vague attempt, Dragon Age: Origins had a MUCH better system. Even Final Fantasy XII, whatever other flaws it may have had, possessed a pretty good tactics system. I'm surprised more games don't copy them.

in the survey i actually put Dragon Age: Origins (even though deadfire is the better game and RPG) first, then Final Fantasy XII Gambit system and third deadfire.

i see you are a man of culture too

 

[Haplo]

The Wild Hunt can dispel as well but that's about it.
Worse, enemies never really buff themselves either.

Also Ghastly Guardians have Dispelling Strike rogue advanced talent (Crippling Strike as well). Besides the rare Mandragora Swarms, the most annoying enemies in the game. Also they come in large numbers (which begs for aoe bombardment or Mass Heals, I suppose).

Wild Hunts are easy compared to these guys. Although I suppose they are easier to melt with aoes.

 

[Brancaleone]

They are thinking a turn-base mode?

The question is poorly worded. It should read "How satisfied are you with the turn-based mode in TotEE?"

 

[rashiakas]

All this console questions doesnt bode well.