Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Dishonoredbr]

I just finished the Zottenropple Brothers .. Well , the fight that you have to fight if you don't kill them alone. And holy shit , was hard. Their insane and have 20+ mobs stand between me and them..

I lost like 2-3 times , before i won by using a mass teleport scroll to send MC , Linzi and Ekundayo , to the top , kill the top floor enemies (without alerting the rest) , then using a combination of Fire Storm with Harim (donw floor) + Mass Cacophonus to CC all enemies , then used Acid Spray into the brother. Then they downed all my party asides from Linzi , MC , Ekun's Dog and Harrim , then i spammed Force Bombs on their asses until they fell. What freaking fight. And wouldn't be half hard if i found those fuckers before figthing.

 

[Trashos]

Damn, Shadow Evocation is disappointing. I thought it was going to be all low-lvl Evocation spells, but it is only Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Shout, and Volcanic/Ice Storms. Sigh.

 

[Efe]

that would devalue evocation school

 

[Xamenos]

Damn, Shadow Evocation is disappointing. I thought it was going to be all low-lvl Evocation spells, but it is only Fireball, Lightning Bolt, and Volcanic/Ice Storms. Sigh.

I guess they couldn't implement it properly. It's all Evo spells in tabletop.

that would devalue evocation school

It's higher level than the spells it allows you to use, and it allows a second will save for all of them. It's nice for its flexibility, but far from broken.

 

[Trashos]

I forgot that Shadow Evocation also includes Shout, I added it in my post above.
What I actually wanted were Controlled Fireball and Scorching Ray, and I got neither.

But yes, Illusion generally suffers from attacking 2 saves instead of one, and Shadow Evocation is no different. (Still love Illusion though, at least up to Hard.)

 

[The_Mask]

But yes, Illusion generally suffers from attacking 2 saves instead of one, and Shadow Evocation is no different. (Still love Illusion though, at least up to Hard.)

Illu still best because of Weird. Fucking Gnomes.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

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killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game.. Tristan

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

COTW implements the following wizardry discovery from tabletop:
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/co...arcane-discoveries-paizo/resilient-illusions/

Also the persistent spell metamagic feat. And the spells Shadow Conjuration [Greater] and Shadow Enchantment [Greater].

Playing an illusionist without COTW is like playing an illusionist for babies!!! It’s not civilized!

 

[Xamenos]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

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killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game..

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Trolled by fey. Have you found and spoken to Jaethal, or did you just watch the cinematic where they fight?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

Spoiler

killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game..

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Trolled by fey. Have you found and spoken to Jaethal, or did you just watch the cinematic where they fight?

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The game didn't gave me chance to talk to her , just showed a cinematic her killing Tristan even if i actually completed his mission and killed her during hers. Make no sense..

 

[Xamenos]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

Spoiler

killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game..

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Trolled by fey. Have you found and spoken to Jaethal, or did you just watch the cinematic where they fight?

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The game didn't gave me chance to talk to her , just showed a cinematic her killing Tristan even if i actually completed his mission and killed her during hers. Make no sense..

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Yeah, she's somewhere in Nyrissa's Funhouse, like all the rest of your companions. What happens to them depends on whether you did their personal quests right.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

Spoiler

killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game..

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Trolled by fey. Have you found and spoken to Jaethal, or did you just watch the cinematic where they fight?

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The game didn't gave me chance to talk to her , just showed a cinematic her killing Tristan even if i actually completed his mission and killed her during hers. Make no sense..

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Yeah, she's somewhere in Nyrissa's Funhouse, like all the rest of your companions. What happens to them depends on whether you did their personal quests right.

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Then i gonna find her and KILL HER AGAIN. Need to have Tristan.

 

[The_Mask]

Owlcat took Codex "Only a dead elf is better than an elf" to heart didn't they? Also... Jaethal is superior in almost every way to Tristian.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Owlcat took Codex "Only a dead elf is better than an elf" to heart didn't they? Also... Jaethal is superior in almost every way to Tristian.

Jaethal is a whiny b*tch and never liked using her in my party, replace her with Reg then later with Nok-Nok.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

Jaethal Supremacy. She is also the best espionage advisor.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

I receive all of my advice from my evil waifus, Jaethal and Khanaera, suck it Jubilost manlets

 

[smaug]

Mangora Swarms..

These fuckers take 3 Fire Storms to kill and I can't protect from them...

 

[Efe]

send forth a tsunami

 

[The_Mask]

Mangora Swarms..

These fuckers take 3 Fire Storms to kill and I can't protect from them...

J A E T H A L

What is dead may never die.

... but rises again, harder and stronger. :D

 

[Trashos]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

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killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game.. Tristan

LOL, I suffered the complete opposite in my 1st playthrough.

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I wanted to keep Jaethal, while I didn't give a shit about that traitor Tristian. But Tristian killed Jaethal.
Ever since, I let Jaethal die in her quest, and I kill the traitor just to make sure.

Jaethal's quest consequence is a bit unintuitive. Or, as mentioned above: Trolled by the fey.

 

[Desiderius]

I just got to the House at the edge of Time and fucking angry rn because the game ...

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killed Tristan and revived FUCKIGN JAETHAL (that i killed during her quest ) FOR NO FUCKING REASON? SHE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DEAD AND I FUCKING COMPLETED TRISTAN'S QUEST! FUCK THIS GAME, NYRASSA AND FUCK JAETHAL

Serious , i got this shit but it's like my choice didn't fucking matter to remove her from my game.. Tristan

I got them both. With Jae redeemed.

 

[Desiderius]

Owlcat took Codex "Only a dead elf is better than an elf" to heart didn't they? Also... Jaethal is superior in almost every way to Tristian.

They both have their strengths.

Jae’s free Perception and Tristian’s Touch of Good the two subtly strongest abilities in the game.

 

[Trashos]

I got them both. With Jae redeemed.

I did not really mean the "just to make sure" part.

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I kill him regardless. Then I organize a party to celebrate his punishment, and make an example out of him.

 

[Desiderius]

I got them both. With Jae redeemed.

I did not really mean the "just to make sure" part.

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I kill him regardless. Then I organize a party to celebrate his punishment, and make an example out of him.

I would expect nothing less of the narrow-minded imbecile you are. He's an example alright - an example of what comes of any who follow your sad excuse for leadership.

 

[Trashos]

Fine, if you are like this, I won't invite you to the ceremony where

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I ride my chariot around the city with Tristian's body tied to the back, so that the whole city can see the dogs eat him.