KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[hexer]

Patched hotfix is on steam!

 

[yes plz]

Looks like they did fix the Amiri bug since you can now add her back into the party via the manage party menu. So long as you didn't complete Valerie's second quest (Burning Bridges) you probably won't get stuck like I did.

The fact that these bugs are getting found in chronological order and are universal shows that they didn't bug test past chapter one.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

Anyone else play a Knife Master Rogue? These sneak attack numbers are enough to cure my erectile dysfunction.

Vivisectionist 16, knife master 4, with all the knife master levels being picked up early, is really really strong.

 

[Ruchy]

I wish the game stuck more to the actual Pathfinder rules. It's really confusing having the game's rules differ so much from the current PnP rules.

In what way? do you mean the rules? or the module in particular?

 

[Sinatar]

Looks like they did fix the Amiri bug since you can now add her back into the party via the manage party menu. So long as you didn't complete Valerie's second quest (Burning Bridges) you probably won't get stuck like I did.

The fact that these bugs are getting found in chronological order and are universal shows that they didn't bug test past chapter one.

Chapter 3. That's where the beta went up to.

 

[Aemar]

Been playing the game for a couple of days now, still waiting for additional patches and whatever it was announced for this Friday.

My general impression of the game: PK is like getting one of those mail-order Russian brides - very attractive, doesn't speak English that well, a bit of rough when it comes to dealing with foreigners, yet there is a lot of potential once one is willing to overlook the flaws.

 

[Urthor]

Can someone remind me what Avellone actually did in this game again?

 

[Yosharian]

I wish the game stuck more to the actual Pathfinder rules. It's really confusing having the game's rules differ so much from the current PnP rules.

In what way? do you mean the rules? or the module in particular?

Well, to name a few examples off the top of my head:

• Eldritch Scion Magus archetype doesn't use Bloodrager bloodlines, but Sorcerer ones, which completely changes the way it is built
• lots of feats such as Intensified Spell which don't seem mechanically complex or hard to implement, haven't made it into the game
• some feats such as Crane Style, Slashing Grace, aren't supposed to work with Magus, but apparently they do in this game, which is very confusing
• Rogue, and possibly some other classes, are using Unchained rules, for some reason, which is confusing since it isn't explained anywhere AFAIK

That's just a couple that I've found out so far from attemping to create some builds

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Can someone remind me what Avellone actually did in this game again?

He wrote the companion that has 3 lines of dialogue and is barely literate.

 

[imweasel]

Can someone remind me what Avellone actually did in this game again?

Chris Avellone

 

[you know what time it is]

Anyone got a direct link for the latest hotfix (gog version)? don't want to go through the galaxy bullshit again and my shelf isn't working properly (idk if the ability to dl patches from it was deprecated or it's just my browser fucking up or some other issue, contacted support but they stay silent for now).

 

[Haba]

Can someone remind me what Avellone actually did in this game again?

From what I read, Avellone's work is limited to the module that is only available to Royal Edition or better. I'm not sure how much he is involved in the Kingmaker campaign.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, I wrote for the core game (and edited for the core game, although not every character - there was too many in the time provided).

I'm sure there's a link to a post here on the forums where I break down what I worked on, but in short, I only worked on part of the game - Owlcat, obviously, did most of the writing, and we had at least 2 other editors at any one time helping with the English translations as well (when I say "editing," it was less about removing words vs. naturalizing the English).

Paizo wanted changes on the module, so it's undergoing revisions (their revision requests were about 16 pages for a 32 page module, so it's taking a while to go through all their feedback).

There you go.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Can someone remind me what Avellone actually did in this game again?

From what I read, Avellone's work is limited to the module that is only available to Royal Edition or better. I'm not sure how much he is involved in the Kingmaker campaign.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, I wrote for the core game (and edited for the core game, although not every character - there was too many in the time provided).

I'm sure there's a link to a post here on the forums where I break down what I worked on, but in short, I only worked on part of the game - Owlcat, obviously, did most of the writing, and we had at least 2 other editors at any one time helping with the English translations as well (when I say "editing," it was less about removing words vs. naturalizing the English).

Paizo wanted changes on the module, so it's undergoing revisions (their revision requests were about 16 pages for a 32 page module, so it's taking a while to go through all their feedback).

There you go.

this is the problem with licensing an IP

 

[AwesomeButton]

Anyone got a direct link for the latest hotfix (gog version)? don't want to go through the galaxy bullshit again and my shelf isn't working properly (idk if the ability to dl patches from it was deprecated or it's just my browser fucking up or some other issue, contacted support but they stay silent for now).

Don't use that cancer called Galaxy

 

[Tacgnol]

I wish the game stuck more to the actual Pathfinder rules. It's really confusing having the game's rules differ so much from the current PnP rules.

In what way? do you mean the rules? or the module in particular?

Well, to name a few examples off the top of my head:

• Eldritch Scion Magus archetype doesn't use Bloodrager bloodlines, but Sorcerer ones, which completely changes the way it is built
• lots of feats such as Intensified Spell which don't seem mechanically complex or hard to implement, haven't made it into the game
• some feats such as Crane Style, Slashing Grace, aren't supposed to work with Magus, but apparently they do in this game, which is very confusing
• Rogue, and possibly some other classes, are using Unchained rules, for some reason, which is confusing since it isn't explained anywhere AFAIK

That's just a couple that I've found out so far from attemping to create some builds

Increased DR rage power stacking with Invulnerable Rager DR is another one. They don't stack in the P&P.

 

[you know what time it is]

Don't use that cancer called Galaxy

Not planning to, hence the request.

 

[Ruchy]

I wish the game stuck more to the actual Pathfinder rules. It's really confusing having the game's rules differ so much from the current PnP rules.

In what way? do you mean the rules? or the module in particular?

Well, to name a few examples off the top of my head:

• Eldritch Scion Magus archetype doesn't use Bloodrager bloodlines, but Sorcerer ones, which completely changes the way it is built
• lots of feats such as Intensified Spell which don't seem mechanically complex or hard to implement, haven't made it into the game
• some feats such as Crane Style, Slashing Grace, aren't supposed to work with Magus, but apparently they do in this game, which is very confusing
• Rogue, and possibly some other classes, are using Unchained rules, for some reason, which is confusing since it isn't explained anywhere AFAIK

That's just a couple that I've found out so far from attemping to create some builds

Increased DR rage power stacking with Invulnerable Rager DR is another one. They don't stack in the P&P.

Fair enough I have not experienced those examples yet, they seem more like oversights (except missing feats which is a bummer) than a different interpretation of the rules so should hopefully be corrected. As for the missing Feats hopefully with the apparent success of the base game we should see more added in the expansions.

 

[Luckmann]

Anyway, does anyone know whether bought mercenaries that you kick out of your party just disappear?

Yes and no. There's a difference between kicking out of party and dismissing. Mercenaries get a small "X" next to their portraits, and if you dismiss them from the party that way, they seem to be gone forever. If you just move them, it's fine.

No, the game does not tell you this beforehand.

Where?
I'm not getting anything on Steam

GoG copies have it apparently, presumably its somewhere in the steam approvals process, so hopefully not far away.

This is a lie!

 

[hexer]

Can someone remind me what Avellone actually did in this game again?

From what I read, Avellone's work is limited to the module that is only available to Royal Edition or better. I'm not sure how much he is involved in the Kingmaker campaign.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, I wrote for the core game (and edited for the core game, although not every character - there was too many in the time provided).

I'm sure there's a link to a post here on the forums where I break down what I worked on, but in short, I only worked on part of the game - Owlcat, obviously, did most of the writing, and we had at least 2 other editors at any one time helping with the English translations as well (when I say "editing," it was less about removing words vs. naturalizing the English).

Paizo wanted changes on the module, so it's undergoing revisions (their revision requests were about 16 pages for a 32 page module, so it's taking a while to go through all their feedback).

There you go.

From Owlcat forums...

-Chris Avellone really wants to write Amiri and Jubilost. He is definitely writing Nok-Nok.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Game at this state is beta at best; I wish they would just release demo (the first mansion or some short module) cause so far its not worth paying for and its too big to ''demo'' it whole. IF they manage to squish the most game braking bugs and add some optimization this game will be greatest RPG since Aod/Underail/W2 and if not it will be another Russian made great in concept barely playable unless fans fix it eventually tittle. And speaking about engines why use the unity piece of shit instead of licensing Aurora?

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

eh sword saint / duelist with a monk dip for crane style feat is very very vwry good AC tank

 

[hexer]

this is the problem with licensing an IP

Also, he could have ran into a senior Paizo writer with huge ego who cock-blocked his attempts at adding some new cool things to the Pathfinder world.

 

[Ibbz]

This is a lie!

While I can't verify it personally due to having a Steam copy, multiple people on the Steam Patch thread disagree and say they received the hotfix for the hotfix.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

• Eldritch Scion Magus archetype doesn't use Bloodrager bloodlines, but Sorcerer ones, which completely changes the way it is built

Enjoying my playthrough as a Abyssal Angelic Celestial Eldritch Scion Magus atm.

 

[Zero Credibility]

• some feats such as Crane Style, Slashing Grace, aren't supposed to work with Magus, but apparently they do in this game, which is very confusing

Well I for one am glad they changed Slashing / Fencing Grace. The way this worked in PnP it made 90% of all maguses (magi?) just use scimitars because that weapon and only that weapon can get dex to damage with spellcombat. Well fuck that, fuck those dancing dervish Drizzt wannabes with their own scimitars.