KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[L'Montes]

Maybe they figured if they made us move slow enough in-game, and threw up enough load screens -- no one would be able to play fast enough to figure out the game wasn't finished?

 

[Lawntoilet]

I just finished up Troll Trouble, which was overall a cool quest and it feels good to have a little time to deal with Kingdom events again. However, I found Harrim's quest to be a little bit because I only had the option of treating him like an annoying dunce. Now, I do think he is a kook, but I think you should have the option to agree with him about some of his Groetus spiel. It's like why when retards say things about KotOR2 like "it hates Star Wars because Kreia hates the Force" they're wrong, because the Exile can either agree with Kreia or call her on her bullshit. I think that's just basic good design, giving you the option to agree or disagree with your party members, and Kingmaker has otherwise been pretty good for that.

Commissar Draco if you're playing a Paladin, make sure to

Spoiler

solve the puzzle in the Dwarven Ruins during Troll Trouble

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

ok got the noble title and started kingdom management.

and whats up with the FUCK LONG loading screens to/fro from the capital town?

I will sit on my backup save and wait while this shit gets patched up. Lots of stuffies to play in the September madness.

 

[Fedora Master]

Shamelessly stolen from the Steam forums:
https://imgur.com/a/D33acT2
https://imgur.com/a/4rSlgUz

Bravo, Owlcat.

 

[Jarpie]

What, enemies get the stacking bonus bug too? Nice job :D

 

[Reinhardt]

I'm level 7 now and i think it's time to start over. All female story companions party is just not worth the trouble with unfair enemies. No proper cleric, no good wizard, Valerie can still do nothing beside standing in the middle of combat and looking "pretty", Octavia is really annoying and her thief level mess with your transition to troll chapter content, Jaethal is skill monkey. MC and Amiri is not enough to kill everything without proper buffing from support characters. Maybe if i was crusader...

 

[haderlump]

Word from the developers:

(you can choose the version through Steam or GoG Galaxy).

Uh, can you though?

If you want to play an older version on steam, it's annoying but possible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/611h5e/guide_how_to_download_older_versions_of_a_game_on/

Probably need to disable auto update if you do this. I don't suppose they forgot to add DRM to the game, otherwise you could just play an old version without steam and not care about updates, that was pretty useful when Grimoire came out...

 

[Cyberarmy]

Just hıt that stacking bug with my Val. She has now full adamantine body and impossible to be damaged by most physical attacks ...

 

[Cael]

Valerie can still do nothing beside standing in the middle of combat and looking "pretty", ...

That has always been the problem with tanks. Yes, the enemy can't hit her, but she generally can't hit them either, especially when the enemy has stat boosts and she has to rely on Expertise to not get hit in the first place.

 

[Lawntoilet]

I'm level 7 now and i think it's time to start over. All female story companions party is just not worth the trouble with unfair enemies. No proper cleric, no good wizard, Valerie can still do nothing beside standing in the middle of combat and looking "pretty", Octavia is really annoying and her thief level mess with your transition to troll chapter content, Jaethal is skill monkey. MC and Amiri is not enough to kill everything without proper buffing from support characters. Maybe if i was crusader...

If you focus on Persuasion-based combat maneuvers for Val, she is still a good tank. You just have to go for things like Dazzling Display, Cornugon Strike, and maybe take 1-3 levels in Thug Rogue.
Agreed on Octavia, although I don't think her delayed spellcasting is the end of the world. You just have to try and hit level 6 before you fight Harlgulka so you can have Haste/Slow.
I haven't used Jaethal much, but she seems like her main contribution is in the free teamwork feats she gets, so she is probably pretty bad unless you specifically build your party to complement those teamwork feats.

 

[Cael]

Shamelessly stolen from the Steam forums:
https://imgur.com/a/D33acT2
https://imgur.com/a/4rSlgUz

Bravo, Owlcat.

Oh, nice. That -700 to-hit for a physical attacker has got to be a record of some sort.

 

[Reinhardt]

I'm level 7 now and i think it's time to start over. All female story companions party is just not worth the trouble with unfair enemies. No proper cleric, no good wizard, Valerie can still do nothing beside standing in the middle of combat and looking "pretty", Octavia is really annoying and her thief level mess with your transition to troll chapter content, Jaethal is skill monkey. MC and Amiri is not enough to kill everything without proper buffing from support characters. Maybe if i was crusader...

If you focus on Persuasion-based combat maneuvers for Val, she is still a good tank. You just have to go for things like Dazzling Display, Cornugon Strike, and maybe take 1-3 levels in Thug Rogue.
Agreed on Octavia, although I don't think her delayed spellcasting is the end of the world. You just have to try and hit level 6 before you fight Harlgulka so you can have Haste/Slow.
I haven't used Jaethal much, but she seems like her main contribution is in the free teamwork feats she gets, so she is probably pretty bad unless you specifically build your party to complement those teamwork feats.

They can be used but not all 5 in one party, which is exactly what i'm doing right now. Constant reloading screens are really annoying.

 

[111111111]

Has anyone actually even beat the game yet?

 

[Luckmann]

I just finished up Troll Trouble, which was overall a cool quest and it feels good to have a little time to deal with Kingdom events again. However, I found Harrim's quest to be a little bit because I only had the option of treating him like an annoying dunce. Now, I do think he is a kook, but I think you should have the option to agree with him about some of his Groetus spiel. It's like why when retards say things about KotOR2 like "it hates Star Wars because Kreia hates the Force" they're wrong, because the Exile can either agree with Kreia or call her on her bullshit. I think that's just basic good design, giving you the option to agree or disagree with your party members, and Kingmaker has otherwise been pretty good for that.

Commissar Draco if you're playing a Paladin, make sure to

Spoiler

solve the puzzle in the Dwarven Ruins during Troll Trouble

I reacted to that, too. It also stood out at the time, because it was the first time I felt like I had absolutely no player agency.

 

[bataille]

But aren't your reactions there determined by your current alignment? I thought my character depreciating Harrim's plight was a neutral evil thing...

 

[Lawntoilet]

But aren't your reactions there determined by your current alignment? I thought my character depreciating Harrim's plight was a neutral evil thing...

They might be. I was NG, but if being CN or CE gave you options (or even forced you) to agree with him, that would make it better.

 

[Luckmann]

Spoiler

ah

I see the problem. How dare you post what is obviously an elf and call it a half-orc? You racist bastard!

It's funny to think that if I would've said that it's a half-elf, they likely would not have cared, which does nothing but expose their own biases and implicit racism far more than any reasonable misunderstanding does.

But aren't your reactions there determined by your current alignment? I thought my character depreciating Harrim's plight was a neutral evil thing...

It's possible, but I was Neutral Good, and at best I could be dismissive and roll my eyes. And nothing else (up until that point) had been determined by alignment in that way; you usually get a good-ish range of answers, but here all I got was a couple of shitty remarks and a religious argument (Knowledge Religion) as to why he was wrong (even when the argument had nothing to do with religion specifically).

The whole thing was weird.

 

[Incendax]

I'm level 7 now and i think it's time to start over. All female story companions party is just not worth the trouble with unfair enemies. No proper cleric, no good wizard, Valerie can still do nothing beside standing in the middle of combat and looking "pretty", Octavia is really annoying and her thief level mess with your transition to troll chapter content, Jaethal is skill monkey. MC and Amiri is not enough to kill everything without proper buffing from support characters. Maybe if i was crusader...

I'm running a Light/Dark combo with them. Valerie is TSS 1 / Crusader X with Selective Channeling and Extra Channeling. Jaethal is Inq 1 / Crusader X with Selective Channeling and Extra Channeling. They are both my tanks, so they stand at the front spamming their positive/negative energy combo. It's been working really well for those big fights.

Amiri is going Barb 4 / Sacred Huntsman X for that sweet True Strike and sacrificial bear (Strength Domain and Gorum for Roleplay reasons).
Linzi is Bard X / Freebooter 4 because holy shit Freebooter is amazing on Hard / Unfair.
Octavia is just doing the usual Octavia thing.

 

[Clink]

Just hıt that stacking bug with my Val. She has now full adamantine body and impossible to be damaged by most physical attacks ...

Dear Pathfinders,

After considering the upcoming feedback we decided that it will be better to focus on releasing hotfixes with the best possible frequency rather then spending time on testing the next big version. The way we see it now we will keep preparing hotfixes during the next 1-2 weeks. The so called "big patch" with several hundreds improvements and minor fixes will be released after October, 22nd.

<...>

"Dear Bugfinders,

After considering the upcoming feedback we decided..."

 

[Cael]

Spoiler

ah

I see the problem. How dare you post what is obviously an elf and call it a half-orc? You racist bastard!

It's funny to think that if I would've said that it's a half-elf, they likely would not have cared, which does nothing but expose their own biases and implicit racism far more than any reasonable misunderstanding does.

All SJWs and their hanger-ons are racists, heterophobes, Christianphobes, sexists and bigots. It is a prerequisite of being a SJW in the first place and, therefore, goes without saying.

 

[Cael]

It seems like they are in a leaky boat, madly bailing water out and trying to cover the holes, but at the same time creating new holes so water just keeps pouring in...

They should stop using a spade to bail the water out, then.

 

[Luckmann]

Another thing 1.0.6 broke: One of the potential advisors can now just disappear as you're doing his quest. Poof. Gone.

Spoiler

Bartholomew. After doing the quest to get his whip from the Dwarf Fort/Troll Ruins, upon returning, he's just gone. Nothing to interact with, no nothing.

I think this is where I bail out, especially since I no longer have a way to even repprt bugs, because Owlcat is a bunch of pink-haired faggots.

 

[disposable]

Patchfinder: Bugmaker

 

[Lagole Gon]

Uninstalled. I'll wait for a major patch. And 3 hotfixes for the major patch.

In the meantime I'll read pathfinder rulebooks and complain about alchemist being thinly disguised warlock popamoler.

Alchemist is popamole and should be removed. Fight me faggots.

 

[Cael]

Uninstalled. I'll wait for a major patch. And 3 hotfixes for the major patch.

In the meantime I'll read pathfinder rulebooks and complain about alchemist being thinly disguised warlock popamoler.

Alchemist is popamole and should be removed. Fight me faggots.

I thought the Alchemist was more an Artificer wannabe?