KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[hell bovine]

In a world where the main protagonist has a point buy of 25, he has a point buy of 32.
In a world where companion stats are all over the place, he has a statline that is optimised.
In a world where companions have crap feats and bad choices, he has everything optimised to within an inch of its life.
BUT! He doesn't have special powers because he is... black.

Lol, so he's a mary sue because his not Valerie?

Jaethal is far more special than Ekun. She is so special, she got her powers thanks to divine intervention. The player on the other hand can't pray at character creation to the deities of the underworld to grant the same abilities to the protagonist. Is she a mary sue? No, she is bait for all the 'romance the elf' fanboys (I blame BG2). She is the only companion to strike a sexy pose in her portrait, she'll talk about all the orgies and debauchery, but then will tell you carnal pleasures just don't interest her anymore, thanks for listening.

Ekun is a take on the classic hero movie trope, where the guy got his wife/kid/dog/chickens killed and now he is out for revenge, except the vast majority of these heroes happen to be white, so they made him black. He is there to bait players who cannot stand the idea of basically having that black panther superhero in their fantasy. (and even the bad guys in his story are trolls, got to appreciate it)

And that's why you are so fixated on him. Face it, Cael, you expect all companions to be the Valerie to your protagonist, because you are a goddamn mary sue of your own life.

 

[Emmanuel2]

You'll need at least one companion on top of pet in Varnhold chapter too, to simultaneously press buttons.

I heard of this solo playthrough "wall" as well. Thankfully, somebody mentioned the companion doesn't need to be levelled or do combat.

 

[Cael]

Lol, so he's a mary sue because his not Valerie?

Jaethal is far more special than Ekun. She is so special, she got her powers thanks to divine intervention. The player on the other hand can't pray at character creation to the deities of the underworld to grant the same abilities to the protagonist. Is she a mary sue? No, she is bait for all the 'romance the elf' fanboys (I blame BG2). She is the only companion to strike a sexy pose in her portrait, she'll talk about all the orgies and debauchery, but then will tell you carnal pleasures just don't interest her anymore, thanks for listening.

Ekun is a take on the classic hero movie trope, where the guy got his wife/kid/dog/chickens killed and now he is out for revenge, except the vast majority of these heroes happen to be white, so they made him black. He is there to bait players who cannot stand the idea of basically having that black panther superhero in their fantasy. (and even the bad guys in his story are trolls, got to appreciate it)

And that's why you are so fixated on him. Face it, Cael, you expect all companions to be the Valerie to your protagonist, because you are a goddamn mary sue of your own life.

Ah yes, the Black Panther. A movie starring a black superhero, directed by blacks, featuring blacks, produced by blacks and promoted as being all black, by black and for blacks. Yes, I so want something so typically SJW in my game. NOT!

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie. That is because he is better than Valerie. He is optimised while Valerie is an ex-Paladin and therefore not optimised for her new life as a Fighter. Comparatively, he does have special powers, and his special power is being a minority in a SJW infested shithole.

EDIT: Correction: His special power is being a noisy minority in a SJW infested shithole. Asians, apparently, are not minorities to SJWs, because only Black Lives Matter.

 

[hell bovine]

The black dude main quest is also about him being a bad father.

Well, if you think about it, anyone from Eastern Europe who is old enough would know how to smuggle things past censorship. So it's not really surprising that Russians are so masterfully trolling the Western political corectness.

 

[hell bovine]

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

 

[Cael]

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie

Methinks the lady doth protest to much.

Lol! Proof positive that you don't even know what the phrase means.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie. That is because he is better than Valerie. He is optimised while Valerie is an ex-Paladin and therefore not optimised for her new life as a Fighter. Comparatively, he does have special powers, and his special power is being a minority in a SJW infested shithole.

EDIT: Correction: His special power is being a noisy minority in a SJW infested shithole. Asians, apparently, are not minorities to SJWs, because only Black Lives Matter.

I don't even disagree with you about SJWs in principle, but that's really not how Ekun is in this game. Again, the fact that Ekun has better stats than Valerie is really not different than the fact that Coran has better stats than Eldoth.

Also Ekun isn't noisy, he is notably the most taciturn of any companion

 

[Luckmann]

Only Octavia and Harim tend to be 100% annoying.

The sad thing here is that Harrim seem to be inspired by Xan from BG1, but whereas Xan is whiny in a fun and sardonic kind of way, Harrim is played unironic, and comes across as genuinely depressing, but not not a way that makes you empathize with him, which only makes him annoying.

Xan was one of my favourite characters in BG1 (although, yeah, he sucked, and my young me first fell for the Moonblade-meme), but Harrim is just.. meh.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I think Harrim is perfect, in the worst day possible. As a dwarf lover I hate him with my guts :D

 

[Commissar Draco]

I think Harrim is perfect, in the worst day possible. As a dwarf lover I hate him with my guts :D

Same here makes me want to make the Dwarf Cleric char and bully him Comrade.



This and the smith with no beard lol.

 

[Cael]

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie. That is because he is better than Valerie. He is optimised while Valerie is an ex-Paladin and therefore not optimised for her new life as a Fighter. Comparatively, he does have special powers, and his special power is being a minority in a SJW infested shithole.

EDIT: Correction: His special power is being a noisy minority in a SJW infested shithole. Asians, apparently, are not minorities to SJWs, because only Black Lives Matter.

I don't even disagree with you about SJWs in principle, but that's really not how Ekun is in this game. Again, the fact that Ekun has better stats than Valerie is really not different than the fact that Coran has better stats than Eldoth.

Also Ekun isn't noisy, he is notably the most taciturn of any companion

Oh, what Ekun is in the game is completely besides the point. I am just using the SJWs' own method of "logic" against them, and it is particularly funny to see them tie themselves up in knots to try and justify their own shit according to their own "logic".

If Ekun is anything even halfway like Danny "I'm too old for this shit" Glover, he'd be one of the better written characters in the game.

 

[Elex]

In a world where the main protagonist has a point buy of 25, he has a point buy of 32.
In a world where companion stats are all over the place, he has a statline that is optimised.
In a world where companions have crap feats and bad choices, he has everything optimised to within an inch of its life.
BUT! He doesn't have special powers because he is... black.

In a world where you can be the pet of Baron Smilodont,
he has a pet wolf called dog.

In a world where ranger spell contain extremely powerfull buffs (hurricane bow, sense vital)
he have low wisdom (he need wisdom boosting stuff for get 2 second level slots at low level)

he is not soo good/optimized as ranged he is good only because rangers are really good in kingmaker.

 

[hell bovine]

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie

Methinks the lady doth protest to much.

Lol! Proof positive that you don't even know what the phrase means.

Oh, but I do. I just happen to think that if even the sexy elf with her talk about orgies is not enough to take your focus off the muscly black guy, then perhaps his stats are not the problem here. But I'm sure the general forum has a thread to accomodate your repressed rage.

 

[Cael]

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie

Methinks the lady doth protest to much.

Lol! Proof positive that you don't even know what the phrase means.

Oh, but I do. I just happen to think that if even the sexy elf with her talk about orgies is not enough to take your focus off the muscly black guy, then perhaps his stats are not the problem here. But I'm sure the general forum has a thread to accomodate your repressed rage.

Stop projecting your necrophiliac tendencies on everyone else, you pervert!

God, all SJWs are the same. They claim that everyone else is racist and intolerant and other nasty traits when it is they themselves who are the deviants.

 

[Serus]

Can someone turn Cael off? I can't find the switch.

 

[Cael]

Can someone turn Cael off? I can't find the switch.

It is called the Ignore button. Feel free to use it. In fact, please do because I can't hear my laughter over your whining.

 

[Sykar]

Lol, so he's a mary sue because his not Valerie?

Jaethal is far more special than Ekun. She is so special, she got her powers thanks to divine intervention. The player on the other hand can't pray at character creation to the deities of the underworld to grant the same abilities to the protagonist. Is she a mary sue? No, she is bait for all the 'romance the elf' fanboys (I blame BG2). She is the only companion to strike a sexy pose in her portrait, she'll talk about all the orgies and debauchery, but then will tell you carnal pleasures just don't interest her anymore, thanks for listening.

Ekun is a take on the classic hero movie trope, where the guy got his wife/kid/dog/chickens killed and now he is out for revenge, except the vast majority of these heroes happen to be white, so they made him black. He is there to bait players who cannot stand the idea of basically having that black panther superhero in their fantasy. (and even the bad guys in his story are trolls, got to appreciate it)

And that's why you are so fixated on him. Face it, Cael, you expect all companions to be the Valerie to your protagonist, because you are a goddamn mary sue of your own life.

Ah yes, the Black Panther. A movie starring a black superhero, directed by blacks, featuring blacks, produced by blacks and promoted as being all black, by black and for blacks. Yes, I so want something so typically SJW in my game. NOT!

Let's face it, your entire post is about how special Ekun is when compared to the other NPCs and yet you are trying to dive and weave to prove he is the opposite. You are undone by your very first sentence: Yes, he is not Valerie. That is because he is better than Valerie. He is optimised while Valerie is an ex-Paladin and therefore not optimised for her new life as a Fighter. Comparatively, he does have special powers, and his special power is being a minority in a SJW infested shithole.

EDIT: Correction: His special power is being a noisy minority in a SJW infested shithole. Asians, apparently, are not minorities to SJWs, because only Black Lives Matter.

And despite all this the movie is ultimately about changing Wakanda to change from an isolationist Wakandan only country to an open borders multicultural country.

 

[HoboForEternity]

so is it safe to play yet?

 

[Frusciante]

So I took the light armor proficiency feat with Tristian - does it say anywhere in the small letters that wearing armor prevents him from casting spells? If yes then maybe I should have read the description better but TBH they should have made this much more clear somewhere.

 

[Dodo1610]

so is it safe to play yet?

As long as you play chapter 1-4 yes. I haven't even reached chapter 4 since I am constantly rerolling my main character.

 

[HoboForEternity]

How long is each chapter anyway?

 

[Luckmann]

I think Harrim is perfect, in the worst day possible. As a dwarf lover I hate him with my guts :D

In a way, I guess that actually makes sense. As an anti-dwarf type of dwarf, which makes kind of sense, he's not that bad. But it doesn't endear me to him, even though I can see the literary reasoning behind his existence.

I must say, I dislike how it seems like you can only bully him during discussions, especially during the first part of his companion quest, though. But it makes me wonder if you can actually bully him *more* if you're a dwarven cleric of Torag. Would be pretty awesome.

 

[fantadomat]

so is it safe to play yet?

A few more micro issues remaining.

 

[Luckmann]

How long is each chapter anyway?

Depends a lot on what you do. It's possible to do chapter 2 within a couple of in-game days, but that was still multiple-hour ingame sessions for me. They're pretty fucking long, and while I still haven't manage to progress further, the game is pretty fucking huge. People have compared it to Baldur's Gate II in size, with the exploration and feel of the original Baldur's Gate. All in a modern wrapping, but with classic incline features and a no-nonsense approach to design (although Owlcat has proven unwilling to stick to those guns, so it's all downhill from here).

There's a reason this is a thread of almost 320 pages of positive spirit. I haven't seen this much general acceptance of a new game on the 'dex in ever. The genuine detractors are few and far between.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Leave Harrim alone!