KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ArchAngel]

Can you imaging doing this 200 times

Why would you rest 200 times?

How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?

This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.

And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

They are making a D&D game, it has to have some D&D features even if non D&D players don't like them. Those can play their Fallout 4 and Destiny 2 shit.

Oh yeah i agree with you on that. But i don't think that making camping long and tedious is the most D&D element ever. Wasting more of a minute on every resting will be stupid. If they decide to make it faster or player being able to skip it for the best. Of course it could end up that there is need to rest 10 times in the whole game,and this will be ok. The worst possible thing could be if you need to rest multiple times to heal and every resting time takes more than a minute.

Making resting something you cannot do whenever is very D&D like. Also it is very D&D like to play 4-5 h but only have 1h of combat. Can you imagine how much frustration would that be for average video game casualfag?
Also having to do MATH and having hard combat that kills your character even when you "feel" you done everything right.

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.

 

[fantadomat]

Can you imaging doing this 200 times

Why would you rest 200 times?

How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?

This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.

And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

They are making a D&D game, it has to have some D&D features even if non D&D players don't like them. Those can play their Fallout 4 and Destiny 2 shit.

Oh yeah i agree with you on that. But i don't think that making camping long and tedious is the most D&D element ever. Wasting more of a minute on every resting will be stupid. If they decide to make it faster or player being able to skip it for the best. Of course it could end up that there is need to rest 10 times in the whole game,and this will be ok. The worst possible thing could be if you need to rest multiple times to heal and every resting time takes more than a minute.

Making resting something you cannot do whenever is very D&D like. Also it is very D&D like to play 4-5 h but only have 1h of combat. Can you imagine how much frustration would that be for average video game casualfag?
Also having to do MATH and having hard combat that kills your character even when you "feel" you done everything right.

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.

And this things don't sell mate. If you want to have only one good game every 20 years,that is ok. But to have constant incline you need to make game that are hard,complex and accessible. Not being able to camp what ever is ok, also having 4-5 hours of dicking around is ok, but having to watch bunch of npcs walking around a camp and doing nothing for a minute and half without having the option to skip it is not good design.
Also i spend last night getting drunk with a friend and his favourite rpgs is kingdoms of amalur. He didn't like ELEX because too much talking.:D

 

[Iznaliu]

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.

Sometimes I worry about this game's commercial viability since the developers aren't making any compromises.

 

[ArchAngel]

Can you imaging doing this 200 times

Why would you rest 200 times?

How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?

This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.

And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

They are making a D&D game, it has to have some D&D features even if non D&D players don't like them. Those can play their Fallout 4 and Destiny 2 shit.

Oh yeah i agree with you on that. But i don't think that making camping long and tedious is the most D&D element ever. Wasting more of a minute on every resting will be stupid. If they decide to make it faster or player being able to skip it for the best. Of course it could end up that there is need to rest 10 times in the whole game,and this will be ok. The worst possible thing could be if you need to rest multiple times to heal and every resting time takes more than a minute.

Making resting something you cannot do whenever is very D&D like. Also it is very D&D like to play 4-5 h but only have 1h of combat. Can you imagine how much frustration would that be for average video game casualfag?
Also having to do MATH and having hard combat that kills your character even when you "feel" you done everything right.

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.

And this things don't sell mate. If you want to have only one good game every 20 years,that is ok. But to have constant incline you need to make game that are hard,complex and accessible. Not being able to camp what ever is ok, also having 4-5 hours of dicking around is ok, but having to watch bunch of npcs walking around a camp and doing nothing for a minute and half without having the option to skip it is not good design.
Also i spend last night getting drunk with a friend and his favourite rpgs is kingdoms of amalur. He didn't like ELEX because too much talking.:D

Well that friend is not the target audience.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.

 

[ArchAngel]

Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.

Maybe you need a SSD? :D

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.

Maybe you need a SSD? :D

Hopefuly Owlcat Games don't think that way and won't design the game so that every action requires numerous loading screens.

 

[Infinitron]

How is this relevant to Pathfinder, there's clearly no loading screen here

P.S. If this sort of resting annoys you, you're playing the game wrong

 

[Reinhardt]

Agree. Resting and preparations are bad. Everytime you press the button something awesome should happen. Like romance. That's what camps for.

 

[ArchAngel]

Agree. Resting and preparations are bad. Everytime you press the button something awesome should happen. Like romance. That's what camps for.

I agree and as we see in that video sex with animals will be a thing.. or was that animal having sex with a party member

 

[PrettyDeadman]

How is this relevant to Pathfinder, there's clearly no loading screen here

P.S. If this sort of resting annoys you, you're playing the game wrong

The only way not to get annoyed by those loading screens is to play while really drunk.
Hopefully Pathfinder Kngmaker won't promote alcoholism.

 

[fantadomat]

Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.

Maybe you need a SSD? :D

No need for ssd,just decent pc. I still don't use ssd and don't have problem with the resting in Expeditions:Vikings.

 

[Abu Antar]

Agree. Resting and preparations are bad. Everytime you press the button something awesome should happen. Like romance. That's what camps for.

I agree and as we see in that video sex with animals will be a thing.. or was that animal having sex with a party member

That's sexual animal assault. Clearly, the Kingdom needs to be shut down.

 

[Iznaliu]

Maybe you need a SSD? :D

Some people are annoyed by the very concept of loading screens.

 

[santino27]

Intentionally trying to make a game element tedious and punishing is next-level stupid.

(But I don't think anyone really believes that is what Owlcat is doing.)

 

[Iznaliu]

(But I don't think anyone really believes that is what Owlcat is doing.)

Some people would have believed if a sufficiently powerful echo chamber had emerged.

 

[fantadomat]

The game looks promising,hoping that it will come soon and will be incline.

 

[Iznaliu]

The game looks promising,hoping that it will come soon and will be incline.

It wasn't announced that long ago and the screenshots are still mockups, so I find that unlikely.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

Can you imaging doing this 200 times

Why would you rest 200 times?

How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?

This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.

And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

don't worry they will probably have ADHD and Millennial mode, they still want you to buy the game.

 

[fantadomat]

Can you imaging doing this 200 times

Why would you rest 200 times?

How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?

This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.

And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

don't worry they will probably have ADHD and Millennial mode, they still want you to buy the game.

Sorry mate,i am not american. Millennials are TM in america,rest of the world have young people.

 

[Iznaliu]

Millennials are TM in america,rest of the world have young people.

That is pretty naïve, to be honest, as the US is the world's cultural centre.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Millennials are TM in america,rest of the world have young people.

That is pretty naïve, to be honest, as the US is the world's cultural centre.

What culture has it in the first place?

 

[fantadomat]

Millennials are TM in america,rest of the world have young people.

That is pretty naïve, to be honest, as the US is the world's cultural centre.

What culture has it in the first place?

I don't know.Always thought that is some retarded tradition to name your generations with stupid names. Americans are weird....

 

[Iznaliu]

Americans are weird....

To Americans, that would be "Eurocommies are weird, patriots are perfectly normal!"

 

[fantadomat]

Americans are weird....

To Americans, that would be "Eurocommies are weird, patriots are perfectly normal!"

I am pretty patriotic mate,but don't name every generation with a stupid name. People are people no matter the generation.