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I must be remembering the beginning of the game wrong; I thought the shadows did STR damage and the wights in the basement (Pitaxian wine cellar) were the ones that did negative level damage?
Seelah isn’t the best tank in the first place (which is one reason the Mount is so good), this isn’t an MMO so tank and spank isn’t really ideal in any case (though you can use a tank effectively in some cases, just not all), and even if you like to use a tank the best tank changes depending on the foe, as in this fight.What's the difference between level drain or just them DPSing you through any other kind attack, even if it's touch?
What other monster can use their regular attack to completely ignore your armor AC bonus and kill your dedicated full tank in 2 (almost guaranteed) hits?
What other monster requires you to immediately go back to a safe space and rest even if they hit you just once, and you have literally no way to heal it yourself, because unlike simply missing 5 HP after a normal monster's attack, even a single negative level is a huge deal when you're level 3?
There’s one Wight there that does. The Cairn Wights don’t.I must be remembering the beginning of the game wrong; I thought the shadows did STR damage and the wights in the basement (Pitaxian wine cellar) were the ones that did negative level damage?
If your Sorc has Glitterdust I think that works on Undead. Oh wait Sorc doesn’t hit second level spells until lvl 4. Another reason to go Wiz.
I've been at that point about 2 weeks ago and I distinctly remember silently screaming "these motherfucking ghosts are actually fucking Level Draining me what the FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"I must be remembering the beginning of the game wrong; I thought the shadows did STR damage and the wights in the basement (Pitaxian wine cellar) were the ones that did negative level damage?
Why are you fighting them at level 3 lol? Threat management is a big part of these games. Especially as a Sorc you’d want to hold off until you have your lvl 2 spells at least. Seelah picks up Veil of Positive Energy then (also the one vs Outsiders which is really good).What's the difference between level drain or just them DPSing you through any other kind attack, even if it's touch?
What other monster can use their regular attack to completely ignore your armor AC bonus and kill your dedicated full tank in 2 (almost guaranteed) hits?
What other monster requires you to immediately go back to a safe space and rest even if they hit you just once, and you have literally no way to heal it yourself, because unlike simply missing 5 HP after a normal monster's attack, even a single negative level is a huge deal when you're level 3?
And a +3 Bow for Lann lol.Btw I had enough money to buy death ward scrolls in chapter 1. Also IIRC if you immediatly kill Kaleysa or whatever the backer quest npc name is, you get a death ward scroll from the guy sho asked you to kill her.
Why are you fighting them at level 3 lol?
You ever wonder why no other D&D-inspired CRPG ever threw Level Drain at you at level 3? Because that shit is just terminally retarded, and it seems everyone except Owlcat and you guys knows it.
Shadows, Nabassu and the wights in the cellars are all optional encounters, you don't have to fight them, so no one is throwing anything at you.
Shadows, Nabassu and the wights in the cellars are all optional encounters, you don't have to fight them, so no one is throwing anything at you.
Give me one (1) example of a similar optional encounter in any other D&D-based CRPG, i.e. one where it's literally mathematically impossible for you to have the right tools to deal with it at that point in the game.
Sure, BG1, if you stumble at the basilisk map at lvl1 you are dead.
Sure, BG1, if you stumble at the basilisk map at lvl1 you are dead.
Oh yeah?
Granted, it's not exactly a popular choice and most people won't pick it so early, but you do have the tool to counter the Basilisk as early as level one.
Now find me an equivalent to counter Level Drain in WotR at level 1.
You mean like buying the death ward scrolls, and lesser restoration scrolls/potions at the tavern...?
You mean like buying the death ward scrolls, and lesser restoration scrolls/potions at the tavern...?
No, I mean like literally being able to pick it at level one at character creation without buying scrolls. And even if you do buy a scroll, it's a Level 1 spell, so you can scribe it, put in your Spellbook and then you can prepare it whenever as early as Level 1.
"Death Ward" that protects you from Level Drain is a Level 4 Divine Spell. If you're an Arcane caster, you can't Scribe it no matter what, you can only rely on using Scrolls that are, at that very early point in the game, extremely expensive. And if you're a Divine Caster, you can't Scribe scrolls to begin with, so you'll have to wait until you're level 7 at least.
Stop fucking defending indefensible, brain-dead, bullshit design choices. Stop it. What the fuck is the matter with you people? Stop it.
https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Vampiric_WolfGranted, it's not exactly a popular choice and most people won't pick it so early, but you do have the tool to counter the Basilisk as early as level one
I've been at that point about 2 weeks ago and I distinctly remember silently screaming "these motherfucking ghosts are actually fucking Level Draining me what the FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"I must be remembering the beginning of the game wrong; I thought the shadows did STR damage and the wights in the basement (Pitaxian wine cellar) were the ones that did negative level damage?
I mean, I don't understand why the fact that you can't use a learned spell and have to use a scroll/wand/potion/we makes it a bad encounter.
The only thing I could agree (a little bit) with you is about the shadow's location since they are in the middle of the map they are hard to understand they are optional.
Protection of petrification in bg1 at level 1 means you have at most 2 casts of it per rest, if you are a specialist. So doesn't protect you either, so need scrolls too, or multiple mages, which is probably not the case at that point of the game.