Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Incendax]

Scaled Fist still stacks with Oracke AC secrets? At this point I doubt they are ever going to fix that shit.
I love the game, but Owlcat seem downright proud of their jank like stacking Bites and stacking DR/-.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Scaled Fist still stacks with Oracke AC secrets? At this point I doubt they are ever going to fix that shit.

Why shouldn't it?

Meaning: please, provide the quote from a reputable source that confirms the behaviour you expect (Oracle secret and Scaled Fist bonuses to AC do not stack). Do as a proper bug reporter should.

Unfortunately, without moderator privileges I cannot add "or shut up", but you get the vibe.

 

[Desiderius]

Underleveling your Monk for AC you don’t need (and a dead BAB level) is janky alright but not the way you think.

 

[Crichton]

Scaled Fist still stacks with Oracke AC secrets? At this point I doubt they are ever going to fix that shit.

Why shouldn't it?

Meaning: please, provide the quote from a reputable source that confirms the behaviour you expect (Oracle secret and Scaled Fist bonuses to AC do not stack). Do as a proper bug reporter should.

Unfortunately, without moderator privileges I cannot add "or shut up", but you get the vibe.

Multiple untyped bonuses don't stack:

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u4z6?Charisma-to-AC-Double-Dip

However it's only obvious if you read the errata so I wouldn't beat the devs up over that. Pathfinder stacking is 100% nonsense anyway; could anyone, even semi-literate game developers, take a system where sacred and profane bonuses stack, and make it worse?

 

[LannTheStupid]

Scaled Fist still stacks with Oracke AC secrets? At this point I doubt they are ever going to fix that shit.

Why shouldn't it?

Meaning: please, provide the quote from a reputable source that confirms the behaviour you expect (Oracle secret and Scaled Fist bonuses to AC do not stack). Do as a proper bug reporter should.

Unfortunately, without moderator privileges I cannot add "or shut up", but you get the vibe.

Multiple untyped bonuses don't stack:

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u4z6?Charisma-to-AC-Double-Dip

However it's only obvious if you read the errata so I wouldn't beat the devs up over that. Pathfinder stacking is 100% nonsense anyway; could anyone, even semi-literate game developers, take a system where sacred and profane bonuses stack, and make it worse?

That's a good argument. I did not know that.

However, it seems in both Pathfinder games untyped bonuses can be added to everything, including each other.

 

[Desiderius]

a system where sacred and profane bonuses stack

This is the American Way.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Also, why shouldn't sacred and profane bonuses stack?

One can argue that a party cannot have both, but IMHO it should be resolved through the story, not through the mechanics.

 

[santino27]

In-campaign Midnight Isles appears to have been broken with the recent patch... you no longer get loot from the final boss when doing the DLC in Act3.

 

[Desiderius]

I noticed that recently. I think there’s different final bosses you fight depending on dialogue. The one I fought didn’t drop anything either.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I noticed that recently. I think there’s different final bosses you fight depending on dialogue. The one I fought didn’t drop anything either.

The true reward is the moral victory.

 

[Haplo]

I love the game, but Owlcat seem downright proud of their jank like stacking Bites and stacking DR/-.

Yeah, both of those are a matter of the past AFAIK.

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

In-campaign Midnight Isles appears to have been broken with the recent patch... you no longer get loot from the final boss when doing the DLC in Act3.

It will be fixed in the next patch

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Care to spoil what will get broken in the next patch?

 

[Mauman]

Scaled Fist still stacks with Oracke AC secrets? At this point I doubt they are ever going to fix that shit.

Why shouldn't it?

Meaning: please, provide the quote from a reputable source that confirms the behaviour you expect (Oracle secret and Scaled Fist bonuses to AC do not stack). Do as a proper bug reporter should.

Unfortunately, without moderator privileges I cannot add "or shut up", but you get the vibe.

Multiple untyped bonuses don't stack:

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u4z6?Charisma-to-AC-Double-Dip

However it's only obvious if you read the errata so I wouldn't beat the devs up over that. Pathfinder stacking is 100% nonsense anyway; could anyone, even semi-literate game developers, take a system where sacred and profane bonuses stack, and make it worse?

I admit this confuses me. Those replies talk about "multiple untyped bonuses", but the oracle bonus IS a typed bonus. It's your dex bonus, just calculated with your charisma. It's treated as your dex bonus for purposes of max dex bonus with armor, etc...

Unless someone is trying to tell me that a monk's AC bonus doesn't stack with dex bonus (which is of course utter stupidity), then there's no reason those two AC bonuses shouldn't stack.

 

[ArchAngel]

In-campaign Midnight Isles appears to have been broken with the recent patch... you no longer get loot from the final boss when doing the DLC in Act3.

It will be fixed in the next patch

How come you guys never made a proper difficulty for army battles? What we have now is way too easy and simple.

 

[Cyberarmy]

In-campaign Midnight Isles appears to have been broken with the recent patch... you no longer get loot from the final boss when doing the DLC in Act3.

It will be fixed in the next patch

How come you guys never made a proper difficulty for army battles? What we have now is way too easy and simple.

I think they were more difficult at early alpha stages. Gargoyles were multi attacking high damage creatures with low HP back then, not the HP sponges they become now.

 

[santino27]

In-campaign Midnight Isles appears to have been broken with the recent patch... you no longer get loot from the final boss when doing the DLC in Act3.

It will be fixed in the next patch

Do you know if crusade morale once again dropping into the negatives in chapter 3 once you run out of enemiesto kill and forts to take will be addressed too? It's easy enough to edit the json to temporarily fix it, but I thought I remembered you all fixing this a year or so ago.

 

[skaraher]

Currently hitting a hard wall at gargoyle fight. It was the hardest fight in Core and still is on Unfair. Trying some new strategies before eating the pre-mission reload and stocking up scrolls or doing the Leper smile first.

I think greater invisibility is the way to go to beat Gargoyle AC but none of my caster has is yet, barring Nenio, and I explicitly want to do a run without relying on her. Smite Good is doing a number on my tank.

Maybe I will try to spam animate dead and hope for good RNG.

Level 7, want to do the story mission in a coherent order.

 

[Desiderius]

In-campaign Midnight Isles appears to have been broken with the recent patch... you no longer get loot from the final boss when doing the DLC in Act3.

It will be fixed in the next patch

How come you guys never made a proper difficulty for army battles? What we have now is way too easy and simple.

I think they were more difficult at early alpha stages. Gargoyles were multi attacking high damage creatures with low HP back then, not the HP sponges they become now.

The suits always wuss out. Same thing with Deadfire. Once they fixed the faceroll sales recovered.

Zoomers are whiny children but they enjoy getting together to figure out hard shit. Look at escape rooms. Gotta give ‘em a chance to do their thing.

 

[Desiderius]

Currently hitting a hard wall at gargoyle fight. It was the hardest fight in Core and still is on Unfair. Trying some new strategies before eating the pre-mission reload and stocking up scrolls or doing the Leper smile first.

I think greater invisibility is the way to go to beat Gargoyle AC but none of my caster has is yet, barring Nenio, and I explicitly want to do a run without relying on her. Smite Good is doing a number on my tank.

Maybe I will try to spam animate dead and hope for good RNG.

Level 7, want to do the story mission in a coherent order.

Not really a tankable fight. Game is designed to use more than five companions. That’s why unlike BG they get EXP on the bench.

AoE control that targets weak save is a skill you’re going to need and that fight is a gateway to make sure you have it (along with using party comp to your advantage).

 

[Roguey]

The suits always wuss out. Same thing with Deadfire. Once they fixed the faceroll sales recovered.

Zoomers are whiny children but they enjoy getting together to figure out hard shit. Look at escape rooms. Gotta give ‘em a chance to do their thing.

Crusade mode difficulty only affects resources, recruits, and keeping the game from ending if your morale gets too low. There's no way to tune the difficulty of the actual fights which would be an impenetrable barrier for a lot of people if they had kept it as is. Lot of complaints here about the difficulty as it is now, people didn't want to get filtered by an obnoxious tacked-on minigame https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder...why_on_earth_are_there_no_crusade_difficulty/

 

[Delterius]

the difficulty options consist of hiring a mage general for easy mode tbh

which is even better since that thread seems consisted of people who think they can't merge soldiers into a single army or can't use their ridiculously excessive gold to strengthen the crusade. none of which they'd have to learn if they just hired setsuna shy

 

[mediocrepoet]

the difficulty options consist of hiring a mage general for easy mode tbh

which is even better since that thread seems consisted of people who think they can't merge soldiers into a single army or can't use their ridiculously excessive gold to strengthen the crusade. none of which they'd have to learn if they just hired setsuna shy

Average gamer is retarded and only plays a game once, news at 11.

 

[Roguey]

the difficulty options consist of hiring a mage general for easy mode tbh

which is even better since that thread seems consisted of people who think they can't merge soldiers into a single army or can't use their ridiculously excessive gold to strengthen the crusade. none of which they'd have to learn if they just hired setsuna shy

"Difficulty is decreased if you make good decisions" is an RPG staple, but the thing about below-average/average players is that they're incapable of making good decisions unless the game outright tells them (and sometimes not even then).

 

[Delterius]

"Difficulty is decreased if you make good decisions" is an RPG staple, but the thing about below-average/average players is that they're incapable of making good decisions unless the game outright tells them (and sometimes not even then).

true but even in the wrath subreddit it's common to make fun of someone who doesn't know the game and says it's stupid and unbalanced when they are playing on core or above.

the crusade mechanics are pretty straightforward and if you approach an rpg with the mindset that anything that isn't as barebones as bg1 is bloated with tacked on features then i dunno what to say tbh. there's even threads of people saying the mythic paths are tacked on and frustrating because it leads them to build classes a certain way. it gets to a point where you have to ask yourself if you want to play wrath or something else.

i was watching the darrah retrospective on DAI and interestingly enough that's the reason they cut the entire military aspect from the game: they felt that having your soldiers occupy the land and you fight over fortifications and such - the things they showed to hype people in pre release events - was tacked on and taking over the story they wanted to tell. and so leading the inquisition became the DAI war table. which i don't hate nearly as much as some people, i think it's good flavor. but it sure sucked ass compared to the bolder vision they initially held.

which is probably why owlcat is so interesting to me. they really don't compromise with themselves or reality. they're releasing their, what, fifth DLC and it's the first one with guaranteed mass appeal.