Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Thonius]

Yeah not sure where the money for DOUBLE REACTIVITY went to.... I mean PFK had lots of CnC for quests and I assume this part too, had like 3-4 reactions about deity Nei.. Neiugh... Nether... you know magic mask guy deity.

If you think that minigame is anything of remotely any quality whatsoever, you might as well donate your brain to science, because you sure as hell ain't using it.

Even if it's not bad I'm sure as hell I'll be bored to do the whole hmm3 on the second or third playthrough.

 

[Thonius]

How dare you suck that bad and then blame the game. How do you ever learn anything with that approach?

Did the thought ever cross your mind that you’re missing something? They already made it faceroll compared to the beta. Would you only be happy with autowins?

I mean what fucking planet are you people from. You start sucky. Then you suck less. That’s the fun.

You want faceroll play your browser shit.

If you think that minigame is anything of remotely any quality whatsoever, you might as well donate your brain to science, because you sure as hell ain't using it.

No wait, I changed my mind. It's because of people like you west in decline, to get the candy you ought to work, power through hmm3 to get some sweet candy(build porn). Instant gratification needs to stop!

 

[Trash Player]

This shit is absurd. Full BAB for all classes, or 25 BAB for full BAB classes AND it affects feats like deadly aim or power attack making them give more damage.

Too bad the opportunity cost is so high. +5 AB or whatever at that level just isn’t all that good.

More BAB means more attacks too. Good for <16 BAB builds.

Not that it isn't good enough, but it does face some stiff competition. There are only 2 greater trick picks and this one is the most mundane, especially in this vital strike "meta".

 

[smaug]

Is there anyway to speed the crusader battles up, like I don’t know battle speed?

 

[Grauken]

Everything about that HoMM battle minigame screams cheap...

The more I play and think over some of the gameplay and design aspects in this game, the more I think to myself "How weren't they ashamed of inserting this / doing that?". The "minigame" is definitely one of those things. When I reached the point of my clerics and gargoyles taking 6 million turns to scratch each other into the warm embrace of death, I literally spoke out loud: "How dare they?". The game obviously had next to zero internal and external QA.

How dare you suck that bad and then blame the game. How do you ever learn anything with that approach?

Did the thought ever cross your mind that you’re missing something? They already made it faceroll compared to the beta. Would you only be happy with autowins?

I mean what fucking planet are you people from. You start sucky. Then you suck less. That’s the fun.

You want faceroll play your browser shit.

You have a great comedy routine going, never let anybody say otherwise

 

[DeepOcean]

I really wish to join the cause of the big demon dude, he seems extremely correct in wanting to wipe out Golarion.

 

[The Wall]

KILL WOKE BEFORE WOKE KILLS YOU!

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Respeced Regill into shield basher with the weapon focus for close weapons. Seems like it already outperforms the shit memebuild Owlcat or Pozzo botched his build with and double weapons hook hammer meme build. Good thing fighter has all those bonus feats.

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https://i.imgur.com/hlhjnFp.jpg

Shield Bash build was my fav for unded elf girl what's her name in PFK. It's really solid feat-heavy though.

Jaethal. High quality waifu. I specced Bard Valerie and Nok Nok into that too.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Couldn't find a paladin portrait I wanted to use for smiting heretics, so I created one of my own:

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Gold variant:

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Waste of effort,there is no crusade or smiting evil in this game,more about embracing it.

There is one example of smiting evil.

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[Fedora Master]

Just as a head's up: Magic trumps "physical" skills in Crusader Battles. For example with healing skills you can make one unit super tanky and you can cast like 20 of them per battle.

 

[Sheepherder]

This shit is absurd. Full BAB for all classes, or 25 BAB for full BAB classes AND it affects feats like deadly aim or power attack making them give more damage.

Too bad the opportunity cost is so high. +5 AB or whatever at that level just isn’t all that good.

More BAB means more attacks too. Good for <16 BAB builds.

Not that it isn't good enough, but it does face some stiff competition. There are only 2 greater trick picks and this one is the most mundane, especially in this vital strike "meta".

Aw shit, there's a meta already :D
Knowledge: World would be better then? Or whichever allows to take Feats without meeting requirements. For instant Greater Vital Strike? I was looking at the BAB increase from a ranged char perspective.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You have a great comedy routine going, never let anybody say otherwise

Don't be a heckler, Grauk.

 

[Parabalus]

What happens if you leave the Vescavor queen in Drezen alive?

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

This is the Regill that should have been even if they did stick with the meme-stat build.

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[smaug]

Wow you guys weren’t kidding, Regill is the best companion and I’ve only just met him.

 

[Fedora Master]

Also, don't bother with mounts. It's annoying as hell because every time you enter a map you have to re-mount.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

• Dark Sun : Wake of The Ravager : A area full of mindflayers where iis very hard to a party in "teen levels(13+)" to even access. Full of mindflayers and dangerous creatures. Mindflayers has a army of half giant slaves. I had to save scum a lot to pass

• DDO : To even access underdark, you need to do 3 quests and own the Menace of the Underdark expansion pack. All quests to access the underdark are lv 16.

• BG2 : You only get to underdark in chapter 5, You meet mindflayer colony, beholders, drow cities(...)

• NWN : Hordes of the Underdark - The expansion starts on lv 15 and you only enter underdark in chapter 2.

This is all pre-5e. 5e is shit. Welcome to 5e.

Despite the awful beginning, PF:WoTR offers

A bunch of edgy powergamey shit with poorly written story and companions, buggy gameplay and pointless classes that overlap each other. It's fighter, mage, thief and cleric with with 100 classes that are varying multiclass combinations thereof.

What BG3 has to offer? Astarion...

Characters that are 100x better than Pathfinder's. Astarion may be a faggot (as all elves are), but I'd take his dialog over Owlcat's anime schizophrenic fanfiction characters any day.

dungeons & kobolds low level "epic" gameplay

"Less is more", as they say. Pathfinder is the equivalent of a Michael Bay film. A lot of explosions and epic things happening on screen, but with very little meaning behind them or reason for them to be there other than to be flashy. Ironically, it's exactly what people accused Larian of with the intro cutscene for BG3. Except they took everything in the cutscene seriously and maintained the tone throughout it the entire intro. Unlike WotR's devs, who establish that the demons invaded the city in *seconds*, killed its most powerful defender, cracked the city in pieces (because reasons) and then waited around for you to go through a bloated and pointless dungeon before defeating you in a scripted fight...and then letting you live and escape to...a tavern where everyone is drinking happily.

casters that can't have a familiar + mage hand at the same time.

Who cares?

But yes, since BG3 fans can't criticize anything in this game, they need to pick the unique thing which it did worse than BG3(starting cutscene) and keep talking about it.

I've criticized a lot more than that. Anyone who's read the thread (and isn't a WotR kickstarter cultist) can see that.

 

[The_Mask]

Wow you guys weren’t kidding, Regill is the best companion and I’ve only just met him.

it may come to pass that I will straight up play the game with mercs and him; or just him, in the party. He's a walking ball of amazingness.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Yeah not sure where the money for DOUBLE REACTIVITY went to.... I mean PFK had lots of CnC for quests

Well, in Kingmaker Jubilost did not recognize the main hero as a gnome and went on to explain about the Bleaching. And Jaethal did not recognize the main hero as an elf and went on how Kyonin is and why it is a forbidden city. And Valerie did not recognize the main hero is the paladin of Shelyn. That locked me out of 2 races and one subclass.

So if they solve at least those things I will be OK. After watching some streams I decided to play an LE aasimar for my first playthrough (sorry Kitsune). I'd like to see if Daeran would see a person with the same, well, affliction - and even

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what my character would say to Wenduag when she tells about eating a steak of an aasimar thigh.

I guess I'll see then.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

So, what's the verdict? Is it worth a playthrough? Better or worse than Kingmaker?

If you like to have an obnoxious, preachy, pride parade manifesto that constantly takes a piss in your ear while screaming about carpet munching, then go right ahead. There is a lot of build autism and false choice in the game. A lot of shills are outright lying about the reactivity. Gender, Race, and Class are not even acknowledged except in some token lip service here and there, nothing compared to BG3 where entire attitudes of people and groups shifts depending on your race. 40% of the classes and sub classes are pure filler and paper thin, they could be cut and the game would be even a better and tighter experience for it.

A shit game shilled by deviants and homo russian nationalists.

100% accurate and fanboys have only themselves to blame.

How many years did you (the people who were part of the beta) have to tell the devs all the problems with what they were doing? Instead you came here to shill. And you're still here shilling.

 

[The_Mask]

Instead you came here to shill.

He never shilled. He probably hasn't even played the game. Highly likely he never will. He's just getting his info from 4chan, or someshit, and coming here for "lol ez brofists lol".

 

[smaug]

Wow you guys weren’t kidding, Regill is the best companion and I’ve only just met him.

it may come to pass that I will straight up play the game with mercs and him; or just him, in the party. He's a walking ball of amazingness.

He’s also great because he’s someone who makes sense in the setting unlike all the others.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Instead you came here to shill.

He never shilled. He probably hasn't even played the game. Highly likely he never will. He's just getting his info from 4chan, or someshit, and coming here for "lol ez brofists lol".

I'm talking to the people who were part of the beta, not him. Hence, the new line. Note that I agreed with him just above that...

 

[LannTheStupid]

a WotR kickstarter cultist

I like it. Glory to Baphomet! (because Descari is kind of ridiculous: locusts do not harm people directly, and they do not eat meat in contrast to marching ants).

 

[Delterius]

"Less is more", as they say.

"they" sound dead of old age