Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Takamori]

Hmm found a bug, you can dimensional door through closed door if you are facing the door in close range.

 

[cw8]

The real joke is making a wooden tavern your base of operations when your enemies have firebombs and demons on their side.

I loved that tavern though, feels cozy and comfortable, much prefer having it as my base of operations instead of that generic camp heh. Sad we can't revisit it in Chapter 2.

 

[deama]

What in the actual fuck?
I'm just a lvl 18 monk, and they want me to go up against that thing?
Btw, it also applies level drain everytime it hits me...

lv 18? I think you are supposed to meet it earlier. Is that on Core? Seems nerfed compared to beta.

I'm solo-ing so I've been sucking up all the exp.

 

[Syme]

I thought those supplies during the Drezen siege would maybe top me off a little, you know, with all the shit that's going on outside and all...

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[Shadenuat]

Another good one in the same zone which includes the Half-Elf chick as well:

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Hope I'm not being too spammy.

no. more Ember plz instead of eldritch knight "builds".

 

[Bloodeyes]

I caved and bought it. Not proud of that decision. Initial impressions are that it's virtue signaling harder than any piece of media I've been exposed to before. The writing is appalling. Just shamefully bad. I don't give a single fuck about the story or any of the characters. I've just got the the point where I can recruit mercenaries and I've grabbed a couple. I'm getting more. All the companions I've met are horrible except Lann and the Asian chick.

It's also fucking raw. Plenty of class abilities don't have descriptions. Animations in the inventory screen are somehow worse than Kingmaker and that's really fucking saying something. Most of the character models make the ones from Outward look beautiful. Lots of jerkiness and jank, quite a few bugs, though none yet that I'd call game breaking. Lots of irritating stuff though, like a bug where I can't trade, characters randomly not doing their action in turn-based mode.

It's a harder game than Kingmaker, that's clear right out of the gate (I'm playing on core because people here were moaning about that difficulty). I consider that a positive. The combat is solid. Challenging. Really enjoyable.

One suggestion is to play something that can tank. I've sneaked a peak at the companions list and there seem to be no tanks on it except Lann. It's mostly archers and half casters. So I'm playing a human tower shield specialist built quite similarly to Valerie, but using the Acolyte background to run my persuasion off Wisdom (can get slightly higher stats and better will saves that way at seemingly no cost). Gonna do an intimidate build like I did with Val. A sword saint is arguably stronger but I've done that in Kingmaker already. There's also no bard, so I've recruited a Skald (a chaotic evil half-orc call Corpse Shitter). You're gonna need a bard or something like one. AC is high, just like in Kingmaker. Even with maxed STR I was missing quite a bit, so buffs are needed. I gave the negro lady paladin a reach weapon. Paladins are great but they aren't tanks. They excel on the second line, not the front. It's been working a treat so far. Edit: I respecced into sword saint and made the the aforementioned character as a mercenary. It's hard to play other classes once you've been a sword saint. They just shit on everything.

I love Kingmaker. It's woke, it's flawed in many ways, but I consider it a masterpiece. It's my favorite game. So far this game is not even half the game Kingmaker is. Technically it may become equal with enough patches, but artistically it is fucking trash. Just complete dreck. I'd hate it if it didn't have D20s in it. It's the videogame equivalent of joining a DnD game with a group of SJW furfaggots just because you're that desperate to play. But it's still DnD so you have fun anyway despite wanting to murder all of them.

 

[Sunri]

I caved and bought it. Not proud of that decision. Initial impressions are that it's virtue signaling harder than any piece of media I've been exposed to before. The writing is appalling. Just shamefully bad. I don't give a single fuck about the story or any of the characters. I've just got the the point where I can recruit mercenaries and I've grabbed a couple. I'm getting more. All the companions I've met are horrible except Lann and the Asian chick.

It's also fucking raw. Plenty of class abilities don't have descriptions. Animations in the inventory screen are somehow worse than Kingmaker and that's really fucking saying something. Most of the character models make the ones from Outward look beautiful. Lots of jerkiness and jank, quite a few bugs, though none yet that I'd call game breaking. Lots of irritating stuff though, like a bug where I can't trade, characters randomly not doing their action in turn-based mode.

It's a harder game than Kingmaker, that's clear right out of the gate. I consider that a positive. The combat is solid. Challenging. Really enjoyable.

I love Kingmaker. It's woke, it's flawed in many ways, but I consider it a masterpiece. It's my favorite game. So far this game is not even half the game Kingmaker is. Technically it may become equal with enough patches, but artistically it is fucking trash. Just complete dreck. I'd hate it if it didn't have D20s in it. It's the videogame equivalent of joining a DnD game with a group of SJW furfaggots just because you're that desperate to play. But it's still DnD so you have fun anyway despite wanting to murder all of them.

how the heck people have rose tinted glasses for game that was made 3 years ago

 

[Bloodeyes]

s for game that was made 3 years ago

I still play it. I've only really been into it for a few months and have over 1100 hours in the game. I still have a run in progress that I've paused to try this.

 

[Sunri]

s for game that was made 3 years ago

I still play it. I've only really been into it for a few months and have over 1100 hours in the game. I still have a run in progress that I've paused to try this.

Did you also skip kingmaker companions?

 

[Bloodeyes]

s for game that was made 3 years ago

I still play it. I've only really been into it for a few months and have over 1100 hours in the game. I still have a run in progress that I've paused to try this.

Did you also skip kingmaker companions?

No I love them. They're all reasonable builds and useful classes that are easy to put together into a solid team. I think they are well written and charming (except Regongar but he's chaotic evil so he's not supposed to be). I'd exlude the Kalikke and Kanerah from those statements. They're quite shit, from a writing perspective (and I couldn't find a use for them either). Tristian never appealed to me either as a build or a character. But I love all the others. I usually run with Linzi and Jubilost as mandatory team members, Harrim, Valerie and either Nok Nok or Amiri. All in their original classes, played to class. Fantastic party composition for challenging Diff.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I do like this sort of reactivity:

 

[Saark]

Looks like it's bugged with Feast of Blood bleed damage. Adds over 60 damage to the 2d6.

Seems fine for me. It just adds 2 damage for each die rolled, so I end up with 17d6+34 damage. I'm actually not quite sure how the 2d6 on a failed save is supposed to work, right now I believe it simply doesnt. It should either be 19d6 instead of 17d6 at casterlevel 17, or 34d6. But its the same damage roll no matter the saving throw.

 

[Sunri]

s for game that was made 3 years ago

I still play it. I've only really been into it for a few months and have over 1100 hours in the game. I still have a run in progress that I've paused to try this.

Did you also skip kingmaker companions?

No I love them. They're all reasonable builds and useful classes that are easy to put together into a solid team. I think they are well written and charming (except Regongar but he's chaotic evil so he's not supposed to be). I'd exlude the Kalikke and Kanerah from those statements. They're quite shit, from a writing perspective (and I couldn't find a use for them either). Tristian never appealed to me either as a build or a character. But I love all the others. I usually run with Linzi and Jubilost as mandatory team members, Harrim, Valerie and either Nok Nok or Amiri. All in their original classes, played to class. Fantastic party composition for challenging Diff.

How the fuck did you like linzi are you a pedo or what? the moment that litle hoe stole money from me i wanted to snap her neck

 

[Sunri]

Anyway no one will care but i made professional tier list for companions from both games

 

[Alienman]

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How can you be atheist when gods and demons exist in the world?

"I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN YOU, SIR" - to a demon lord.

 

[mediocrepoet]

How can you be atheist when gods and demons exist in the world?

"I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN YOU, SIR" - to a demon lord.

It says right in the description that they don't dispute the existence of powerful beings, just that they deserve to be worshipped or are generally different than other powerful beings. In a world where mortals have ascended to godhood, it seems perfectly sensible to me.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

How can you be atheist when gods and demons exist in the world?

"I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN YOU, SIR" - to a demon lord.

It says right in the description that they don't dispute the existence of powerful beings, just that they deserve to be worshipped or are generally different than other powerful beings. In a world where mortals have ascended to godhood, it seems perfectly sensible to me.

When you know what fate awaits if you don't pay lip service to one of them, you must be quite retarded to be an atheist tbqh.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Regill's introduction is 10/10.

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[Sunri]

Regill's introduction is 10/10.

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its sad that his personal quest is 1/10

 

[Bloodeyes]

How the fuck did you like linzi are you a pedo or what? the moment that litle hoe stole money from me i wanted to snap her neck

Inspire courage + good hope. Can pre-buff with good hope then inspire courage and haste on turn 1. I gave her a ring and cloak that boost her enchantment DCs, as well as greater spell focus enchantment and greater spell penetration and heighten spell. All points into CHA + the best CHA and dex items. Bard talents = combat trick. Point blank shot, precise shot, rapid shot, weapon focus.

Things Linzi can do:

- Buff the party and remove all challenge from combat.
- Heal almost as well as a cleric. Being a spontaneous caster and taking a healing spell at every level means you can effectively convert all remaining spells to healing when camping (I rarely need to heal in Kingmaker, but it's nice to have). She also gets a song that functions like channel positive energy, so guaranteed full heals on camping.
- Boost the party's skill checks when camping.
- Boost the party's skill checks in normal gameplay.
- Be a skill monkey/can opener.
- Help out a bit in combat with her flaming crossbow.
- Protect Jubilost by tanking with mirror image when the back line gets rushed.
- On the 15ish percent of enemies that aren't immune to mind effecting she can ruin their fucking day.


Taking her or Jubilost out of the squad is like turning the difficulty up. Support characters matter. As a character I like her positivity and I find her irreverence charming. I especially enjoy her interactions with Harrim. I forgave her for stealing. I can't stay mad at the little scamp.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

More neat party banter:

 

[Sunri]

How the fuck did you like linzi are you a pedo or what? the moment that litle hoe stole money from me i wanted to snap her neck

Inspire courage + good hope. Can pre-buff with good hope then inspire courage and haste on turn 1. I gave her a ring and cloak that boost her enchantment DCs, as well as greater spell focus enchantment and greater spell penetration and heighten spell. All points into CHA + the best CHA and dex items. Bard talents = combat trick. Point blank shot, precise shot, rapid shot, weapon focus.

Things Linzi can do:

- Buff the party and remove all challenge from combat.
- Heal almost as well as a cleric. Being a spontaneous caster and taking a healing spell at every level means you can effectively convert all remaining spells to healing when camping (I rarely need to heal in Kingmaker, but it's nice to have). She also gets a song that functions like channel positive energy, so guaranteed full heals on camping.
- Boost the party's skill checks when camping.
- Boost the party's skill checks in normal gameplay.
- Be a skill monkey/can opener.
- Help out a bit in combat with her flaming crossbow.
- Protect Jubilost by tanking with mirror image when the back line gets rushed.
- On the 15ish percent of enemies that aren't immune to mind effecting she can ruin their fucking day.


Taking her or Jubilost out of the squad is like turning the difficulty up. Support characters matter. As a character I like her positivity and I find her irreverence charming. I especially enjoy her interactions with Harrim. I forgave her for stealing. I can't stay mad at the little scamp.

How about other companions did you like them from the get go or they grew on you? it took some time for me to appreciate most of them and i had similar experience with wrath

 

[Agame]

Just reached the crusader minigame and I do find it quite clunky. Meh.

Same, looks like the intern made it the week before release. Janky AF. No idea why they thought a budget HoMM lite was a good idea. I was ok with kingdom management system in first game, should have been exactly the same, just assigning generals to go do campaigning and suchlike, keep it a very limited side activity that you can mostly ignore.

This is serious decline, the need to jam random fashionable game modes into your mechanically completely different base game. All the money spent on this dumb add on could have been used for a good editor to come in and delete the fuck out of all the overbloated dialogue by removing 90% of it. Pure incline.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Truly a bro:

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Inside the keep at Drezen and I think I may just park my ass there and wait until the morale bug(s) in chapter 3 are fixed. Probably could try to fight through the issues but Owlcat's reasonably quick and on the ball when it comes to patching so I might be better off waiting. Having fun but I've been neglecting other games in favor of WotR anyway so this sounds like a reasonable excuse to have a hopefully brief pause.