Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Fedora Master]

Man it's ironic how people now praise Valerie, who was the most hated companion by Owlcats own survey. Oh I remember the Codex rage on her and Amiri. And on Ekun cause he had high stats

Bet you like a moronic barbarian stronk teenager now too, huh?

That just tells you how bad this game is in comparison to Kingmaker.

 

[The_Mask]

Oh I remember the Codex rage on her and Amiri.

Amiri is still bad.

 

[LannTheStupid]

For me it becomes disturbing how sensitive Westerners are to the colour of skin. In Kingmaker, they did not consider Regongar and Octavia as slaves because none of them was black; and they did not consider Ekundayo as a classic Irish immigrant because he was black. Wrath is more popular - it seems - and race induced hate is more visible.

On the other hand, I have already written this, so it's the last time I mention it.

 

[Fedora Master]

Gameplay question: I'm looking at the sohei monk. They get light armor and martial weapons. Apparently FoB then would work with 2 handed martial weapons but the light armor disables your Wis AC bonus. So should I just build the monk like a lightly armored fighter with high Str and Dex instead of Wis? Seems counterintuitive to not rely on THE prime Monk stat.

 

[CodexTotalWar]

Tried to go west and fight some ghost, got instant killed, so I don’t even have level 5 spells, nowhere to level up

Spoiler

You'll get more than enough rest stops during all of Drezen, if that is what you're worried about. Almost after every step, you are provided a rest stop - and what's more, you can bank them up if you don't need them at the moment, so it's actually pretty comfy.

If you've already done most of the "will fail this chapter" quests, your party should be more than levelled enough to do this.

Not having Trickery will be rough, but worst come to worst you can just respec Camellia into it if you didn't increase in on her. I think one of her starting feat IS skill-focus Trickery

 

[Fedora Master]

The game desperately needs a search option for shops.

 

[smaug]

Tried to go west and fight some ghost, got instant killed, so I don’t even have level 5 spells, nowhere to level up

Spoiler

You'll get more than enough rest stops during all of Drezen, if that is what you're worried about. Almost after every step, you are provided a rest stop - and what's more, you can bank them up if you don't need them at the moment, so it's actually pretty comfy.

If you've already done most of the "will fail this chapter" quests, your party should be more than levelled enough to do this.

Not having Trickery will be rough, but worst come to worst you can just respec Camellia into it if you didn't increase in on her. I think one of her starting feat IS skill-focus Trickery

Spoiler

I built Camelia like garbage so she is worthless, have to rely on dex increased nenio for trickery.

 

[Shadenuat]

Come to think about it where are distinctly Asian companions

Nenio?

I would need to gather some cynical powers to answer about arabs, indians and africans (but basically, the rich and interesting history of Africa, that once had buildings that people mistaked for being built by Romans, is based much on Gold and Slavery since ancient times, which makes it difficult to easily write a distinct character from there); but if you mean idk, China, well it's because US and people in general know shit about it.

I personally worked with Chinese, although Russian kind, which afaik by other Chinese are considered a bydlo-chinese. I enjoyed their women that all looked like lolis give me sweet cakes on Autumn celebration; watched them sit and watch some parade/memory movies about Chinese getting slaughtered by Japanese etc. (man they don't like Japanese lol).
Then I learned that the lolis are actually 30+ yo old, smoke heavily and have multiple children, and are already divorced.
Intredasting people. (and pay on time and well.)
still no clue wat r they r about.

 

[Fedora Master]

Come to think about it where are distinctly Asian companions

Nenio?

Come to think of it, none of the characters really represent the area they are from. Nenio is "Asian" because she's a Kitsune, that's it. Do the companions ever talk about their homelands, because I can't recall them doing it.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Man it's ironic how people now praise Valerie, who was the most hated companion by Owlcats own survey. Oh I remember the Codex rage on her and Amiri. And on Ekun cause he had high stats

Bet you like a moronic barbarian stronk teenager now too, huh?

A poorly written game can still have better writing than another poorly written game. The point is that they've regressed instead of progressing. Valerie was poorly written. But her writing was better than Seelah. Amiri was an irredeemable retard with shit writing. But her writing wasn't worse than this game's writing.

Ekun cause he had high stats

Reddit hates strong characters.

 

[Shadenuat]

Come to think of it, none of the characters really represent the area they are from. Nenio is "Asian" because she's a Kitsune, that's it. Do the companions ever talk about their homelands, because I can't recall them doing it.

Nenio's thing is that she kinda forgot.

Companions being obsessed with their One and Only Schtick is not sjw but just indulgent roleplaying and bad writing tho.

 

[deama]

Alright so I think I'm going to call it quites for now. I've played for about a week, I think abouts 40 hours or so. I made it to chapter 5, the last one?
Anyway...

Spoiler

Beginning parts were good, the game in general was good I thought up until the abyss city where it started to show cracks.
The abyss city was kinda annoying with it's moving parts, at some points I had to wait 5 minutes for a wall to move, the whole place was kinda buggy and my character regularly got stuck in mid-air and only way to get out was to reload a previous save, not even a teleport spell worked.
The content in the abyss city itself was fine I thought though.

Yeah, so when you get back to drezen and liberate it for the second time the game starts showing more cracks for me, it feels too samy, the merchants don't even get new stock which I was disappointed by.

I finished it shortly after, in Iz fighting the deskari lord guy.

The mythic system I thought was kinda interesting and I wish they went further with more unique artifacts like with the banner thing giving you a perma hp regen. Maybe instead you could choose artifacts that gave you a debuff and buff or maybe upgrade the banner in various ways.

Biggest issue for me was the exp, I was pretty much level capped around the middle chapter of the abyss city. Once I unlocked legendary path I immediately shot up to lvl 40, which was nice, but afterwards I couldn't grow anymore, so that's why I'm leaving it there, as the continues growth is what I enjoy about these games the most.

I played as a monk and pretty much soloed the whole thing in core rules, I only turned the difficulty down when I was doing the legendary path questline with the shadows as the enemies were just ridiculous. After legendary path I multi-classed into sorcerer, probably should have went with bard tbh but oh well.

 

[Fedora Master]

Come to think of it, none of the characters really represent the area they are from. Nenio is "Asian" because she's a Kitsune, that's it. Do the companions ever talk about their homelands, because I can't recall them doing it.

Nenio's thing is that she kinda forgot.

Companions being obsessed with their One and Only Schtick is not sjw but just indulgent roleplaying and bad writing tho.

In currentyear you can't have obviously "ethnic" or "foreign" characters because Everyone Is Exactly The Same Everywhere.

 

[Cryomancer]

The woke is just a small part. How people fail to realize that the game threats every non egalitarian option as evil?

Saying to Camelia "people are not born eqqual" is considered evil. Zacharius is considered evil too and he is the typical "fascist wizard" which Lacrymas would love.

My country when was a empire was rich and prosperous. Now is a banana republic. The aristocratic companions are depicted in the worst possible way. That is a huge step back. Mainly considering how aristocracy is well depicted in kingmaker.

 

[cw8]

Sosiel, Lann, Wendulag, Arueshalae and Seelah are Pazzio's.

Lann seems balanced in all things. Doesn't have the SJW vibes on him. I'm not using Sosiel. Arueshalae looks like waifu type, don't tell me she's lesbian/transgender ?

 

[Fedora Master]

Sosiel, Lann, Wendulag, Arueshalae and Seelah are Pazzio's.

Lann seems balanced in all things. Doesn't have the SJW vibes on him. I'm not using Sosiel. Arueshalae looks like waifu type, don't tell me she's lesbian/transgender ?

You know the thing with Succubi/Incubi right.

 

[Fedora Master]

The interaction with Hulrun really makes no sense.
You barge into a conversation between two parties you've never met with Hulrun wanting to kill a priest of DESNA - A GOOD goddess - without evidence.
Attacking him is considered chaotic and agreeing with him, despite not knowing the whole story, is lawful.
THEN he reveals he was the one who nearly burned Ember and THEN it suddenly becomes lawful to just murder him.

 

[Sunri]

Sosiel, Lann, Wendulag, Arueshalae and Seelah are Pazzio's.

Lann seems balanced in all things. Doesn't have the SJW vibes on him. I'm not using Sosiel. Arueshalae looks like waifu type, don't tell me she's lesbian/transgender ?

She is succubi what did you expect a virgin hetero girl?

 

[Nos]

Sosiel, Lann, Wendulag, Arueshalae and Seelah are Pazzio's.

Lann seems balanced in all things. Doesn't have the SJW vibes on him. I'm not using Sosiel. Arueshalae looks like waifu type, don't tell me she's lesbian/transgender ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder..._romances_in_wrath_of_the_righteous_revelaed/
Companions

Lann, male mongrel, stoic and sarcastic archer. Is romanceable for female PCs.

Wenduag, female mongrel, fierce and cunning woman who respects only power. Is romanceable for both genders.

Camellia, female half-elf, refined, but arrogant and cold-hearted young lady. Romanceable for male PCs.

Daeran, male assimar, dashing, charming but insuferrable noble man. Romanceable for both genders.

Arueshalae, female succubus who seeks redemption. Romanceable for both genders.

Sosiel, male human, kind cleric of goddess of love, artist. Only romanceable by male PCs.

NPCs

Queen Galfrey, female human, ageless and beloved queen, leader of the crusades. Is available for both genders.

Overall, there are two options for heterosexual ladies PCs, two option for gay men, three options for lesbian PCs and four options for heterosexual guys.

Option 5: delete game.

 

[Shadenuat]

Zacharius is considered evil too

Zacharius, btw, and some other cool characters, are actually a positive improvement over PKM, which did not give NPCs enough spotlight, with companions dominating everything.

Mainly considering how aristocracy is well depicted in kingmaker.

Lol no. It's not good there and not in Wrath.
generally anything bout medieval social classes and kultur and rulership, these kind of writers are just clueless about it.

 

[Fedora Master]

generally anything bout medieval social classes and kultur and rulership, these kind of writers are just clueless about it.

And why wouldn't they be, both DnD and PF are intended to reflect modern values, not medieval ones.

 

[Cryomancer]

, don't tell me she's lesbian/transgender ?

She is a succubus. She had all types of dicks inside her and all types of relationships but for you, she will demand commitment and love.

generally anything bout medieval social classes and kultur and rulership, these kind of writers are just clueless about it.

Russia had a aristocracy till 1917. Brazil, till the democratic coup over the end of slavery in 1889. I get that aristocracy in a fantasy world would be different than IRL but still badly depicted.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Sosiel, Lann, Wendulag, Arueshalae and Seelah are Pazzio's.

Lann seems balanced in all things. Doesn't have the SJW vibes on him. I'm not using Sosiel. Arueshalae looks like waifu type, don't tell me she's lesbian/transgender ?

You know the thing with Succubi/Incubi right.

No. I don't know this. Please enlighten me so that I can hate this game even more.



edit:

She is a succubus. She had all types of dicks inside her and all types of relationships but for you, she will demand commitment and love.

Oh. I thought it would be a tranny thing.

And that's different from modern women how?

 

[Fedora Master]

No, she's not a tranny, but technically a Succubus can change her sex on a whim if you go by the "original" real life version.

 

[Cryomancer]

I thought it would be a tranny thing.

Succubus and Incubus being able to switch "her" gender at will is a degeneration brought by 5E. Even in PF2E which is awful din't did it. Succubus have a feminine true form ( https://2e.aonprd.com/Monsters.aspx?ID=98 ) BTW, 5E succubus lacks profane gift, ability to inflict negative level and much other deadly powers that her had in previous editions.

can change her sex on a whim

No, that is 5E succubus. Succubus and Inccubus are so different that they have different CR in Pathfinder, different spell like abilities and etc.

And that's different from modern women how?

Modern woman doesn't worship Desna.