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Desiderius

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Inquisitor Humans already get a ton. Who needs INT when you’ve got fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope?
 

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As of now, Improved Cleaving Finish is bugged and borderline unplayable in TB. 99% of the times it doesn't work at all, because it targets the enemy who's already dead and, being unable to kill it again, it wastes the attack interrupting the chain. It was working before though, so I don't what the fuck happened.

For fuck's sake Owlcat, get it together.

They were probably trying to fix the bug where it cleaved the attack you used, so if you Vital Strike it would chain. With an enlarged reach weapon it would instawipe rooms with 1k strikes.
 

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"I'm Queen Galfrey, hero of this realm! The strongest demons fear me! Nothing can stop me... except this random guy's horse..."

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They were probably trying to fix the bug where it cleaved the attack you used, so if you Vital Strike it would chain. With an enlarged reach weapon it would instawipe rooms with 1k strikes.
It's still cleaving the attack you used, but now it cleaves a dead body. I don't know what they were trying to do, but it doesn't seem like a fix to me. I think they're just flagging the enemies as dead too late or not checking correctly the "dead" flag.
 

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I don’t think Mythical Beast is very good unless you’re romancing some skanky lichette.
Are you serious?

Memes asides, as all the other buffs, it's only as strong as the chassis you place it on. Eg totally OP on a Smilo, completely wasted on many other RP pets.

I'm Queen Galfrey, hero of this realm! The strongest demons fear me! Nothing can stop me... except this random guy's horse..."

She did exactly the same in my game friendo, except she decided to let my main be the target of her rage. Game over.
 

Desiderius

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Anyhow, Desiderius, what are my options for an INT-based divine caster? Any way to turn a cleric or inquisitor into one?

No, God makes atheists for the high INT shit.
Alas. I'd like to have a divine caster PC with a shitload of skillpoints, but I don't want to waste feats and/or suboptimally distribute my stats for that.

I think a Human Inquisitor of Desna Will make you very hippy, er, happy indeed. You seem like a man who enjoys 40 DC Persistent Mass Castigates.
 

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Is that normal that crafted scrolls are 10 + Caster level of crafter as DC ? That seems way too high. Normal spells get 10 + SPELL level + modifier...
Nenio can craft 15 DC grease scrolls and that's before she applies her int bonus from the scroll savant feats.
 
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Anyhow, Desiderius, what are my options for an INT-based divine caster? Any way to turn a cleric or inquisitor into one?

No, God makes atheists for the high INT shit.
Alas. I'd like to have a divine caster PC with a shitload of skillpoints, but I don't want to waste feats and/or suboptimally distribute my stats for that.

I think a Human Inquisitor of Desna Will make you very hippy, er, happy indeed. You seem like a man who enjoys 40 DC Persistent Mass Castigates.
I'm going more towards...
Thiefling (Hellspawn) Inquisitor (Judge) of Asmodeus. :M
 

Desiderius

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I don’t think Mythical Beast is very good unless you’re romancing some skanky lichette.
Are you serious?

Memes asides, as all the other buffs, is only as strong as the chassis you place it on. Eg totally OP on a Smilo, completely wasted on many other RP pets.

I'm Queen Galfrey, hero of this realm! The strongest demons fear me! Nothing can stop me... except this random guy's horse..."

She did exactly the same in my game friendo, except she decided to let my main be the target of her rage. Game over.

Relic already bypasses most DR. Mythic Abilities are the rarest thing in the game. Crusader’s Edge + Smilo will already destroy anything.

It’s almost as good as unbuffed Dog.
 

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Good job, Balor Darrazand. Good job.

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I can't think of a single better use of your turn than dispelling yourself. You go, girl.

Playing this game in TB is like seeing a senile 99-year-old hitting himself in the head with crutch. The enemies are literally retarded.
Yeah, the game is sorely needing an SCS equivalent mod to fix the AI.

Owlcat used the Tactics approach instead, bosses will cast scripted dispels on you.
 

Desiderius

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Anyhow, Desiderius, what are my options for an INT-based divine caster? Any way to turn a cleric or inquisitor into one?

No, God makes atheists for the high INT shit.
Alas. I'd like to have a divine caster PC with a shitload of skillpoints, but I don't want to waste feats and/or suboptimally distribute my stats for that.

I think a Human Inquisitor of Desna Will make you very hippy, er, happy indeed. You seem like a man who enjoys 40 DC Persistent Mass Castigates.
I'm going more towards...
Thiefling (Hellspawn) Inquisitor (Judge) of Asmodeus. :M

Yeah shitty INT Thiefling will suck at skills. And DCs. The wages of sin.
 

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Actually, Scroll scribing seems completely broken.
Currently it creates scrolls that have a DC of 10+Spell level+caster level of the crafter+Casting stat modifier of the crafter, this is way better than any spells cast from a spellbook...
I can't be intented, is it ?
 

Desiderius

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Crusader’s Edge

Only have Lann capable of casting it :troll:

Also, it's only good vs outsiders, which are a lot, I agree. Mythic beast is good simply 'coz it's always there on an high DPS frontliner. We can disagree on this one though, it's marginal.

Lol it’s the opposite of marginal. How did all of you clowns make it this far in life without ever encountering the concept of opportunity cost?

Mythic abilities are the whole point of the game. And they’re very rare through much of it. Use wisely.

Also yes there are people playing with Crusader’s Edge (see: Second Mystery Ancestors Spell Selection BTW) and people who aren’t. The former are the ones crying for nerfs. That simple.
 

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Lol it’s the opposite of marginal.

It is, it's so marginal it's even shorter than your dick! We had to invent a whole new unit of measure! The unimportantion!

How did all of you clowns make it this far in life without ever encountering the concept of opportunity cost?

Lol, how old are you son, do you even hold a job?

Mythic abilities are the whole point of the game.

Yes, and Mythic beast is good enough to be taken at level up, as are many others. Try it, it's free! You will have so much more fun with the game as soon as you realize there are so many builds you could try and no true "wrong" way to play it!

And they’re very rare through much of it. Use wisely.

Lol. No.
 

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Crusader’s Edge

Only have Lann capable of casting it :troll:

Also, it's only good vs outsiders, which are a lot, I agree. Mythic beast is good simply 'coz it's always there on an high DPS frontliner. We can disagree on this one though, it's marginal.

Lol it’s the opposite of marginal. How did all of you clowns make it this far in life without ever encountering the concept of opportunity cost?

Mythic abilities are the whole point of the game. And they’re very rare through much of it. Use wisely.

Also yes there are people playing with Crusader’s Edge (see: Second Mystery Ancestors Spell Selection BTW) and people who aren’t. The former are the ones crying for nerfs. That simple.

Well, Daeran could get Crusader’s Edge naturally, it is from standard cleric spellbook, he don't need any extra mystery for it.
And the whole point of the Murderdog tripping is to get CMB as high as possible and with Fury Fall (possible on Bully class pet) pet gets up to +6 on CMB from Mythic Beast.

It could be a difference between tripping some high-end demon or not.
 

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I'm having a devil of a time trying to create a character:-

1) She has to be an elf
2) She has to be an Urgathoa-worshipping Necromancer of sorts, though not necessarily undead army type - more like a cross between illusion and necromancy, or like a cross between necromancer and vampire (if she could be a Dhampir it would be easier since Cruoromancer is tailor made for Necro, but she has to be an elf goddammit).
3) She has to be able to ride a Giant Centipede
4) She has to use a Scythe as her main weapon.

IOW, a Scythe-using, Giant-Centipede-riding elf Illusionist/Necromancer. That's the character I've got in my mind's eye.

The problem is that most of the magic using beast-riding-capable classes and sub-classes use Wisdom, but Elves are Intelligence-based; they're also Dexterity based, which means Scythes are useless unless I can get around it (I suppose the later transformation spells are fine for that, but it would be nice to have something to start with). (Gah, if only you could finesse scythes! :) )

I've tried all sorts of combinations but I can't get anything - I realize I might have to just give up a couple of these desiderata to focus on a more essential vision (probably give up the Scythe idea and just have her doing a sideline in archery, in which case I can comfortably start her beast riding with Divine Hunter probably, and just swallow the WIS spells waste), but I'm just throwing it out there to see if anyone has any ideas.

Sylvan Sorceror Specializing in Illusion or Necromancy with Mythic Expanded Arsenal in the other school... plus... Fighter (level 9) with Fighter's Finesse Advanced Weapon Training and Weapon Finesse (Mythic) I guess.
The fighter levels are hardly synergistic, but I guess it can be done. If you merge the spellbook with lich, you may still be able to be a full caster.

I'd check first if you can even ride giant centipedes at all.

Why are elves DEX based? It's just a +2 bonus.

Go Sylvan + some EK/Signifier, if you merge with Lich you have lots of leeway for whatever.

lol good point re. checking. Apparently it is possible, but the animation is borked. This makes me very sad (in a #firstworldproblems sense) :(



OK, plan B - a velociraptor! :)
 

Desiderius

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Crusader’s Edge

Only have Lann capable of casting it :troll:

Also, it's only good vs outsiders, which are a lot, I agree. Mythic beast is good simply 'coz it's always there on an high DPS frontliner. We can disagree on this one though, it's marginal.

Lol it’s the opposite of marginal. How did all of you clowns make it this far in life without ever encountering the concept of opportunity cost?

Mythic abilities are the whole point of the game. And they’re very rare through much of it. Use wisely.

Also yes there are people playing with Crusader’s Edge (see: Second Mystery Ancestors Spell Selection BTW) and people who aren’t. The former are the ones crying for nerfs. That simple.

Well, Daeran could get Crusader’s Edge naturally, it is from standard cleric spellbook, he don't need any extra mystery for it.
And the whole point of the Murderdog tripping is to get CMB as high as possible and with Fury Fall (possible on Bully class pet) pet gets up to +6 on CMB from Mythic Beast.

It could be a difference between tripping some high-end demon or not.

I’ve got mine Tandem Tripping from Huntmaster Lann. Once we get the Relic we’ll really go off. Mythic could be worth it for stats but seems a little slow.
 

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