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[Jermu]

A spoiler-ish question for those on later chapters. What is the highest level of bracers of Armour you have found?

7 or 8 cant remb anymore

 

[Parabalus]

A spoiler-ish question for those on later chapters. What is the highest level of bracers of Armour you have found?

7 or 8 cant remb anymore

There's an 8 in Nenio's dungeon, optional puzzle in the bottom left. You can DD through that particular door as well.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

In trying to combat the traditional conceptions, feminists inadvertently imply a difference in function and ability as well -- as if a female doctor would "function", i.e. diagnose, treat patients, differently than a male doctor would have. That's the kind of unintentional sexism of gendered nomina agentis nouns that I mean.

I personally do not see it that way. It's the same thing as with gendered adjectives. If your language already has them, it'd be weird as fuck to use the male termination for an adjective just because it has no gendered implication.

English doesn't have them as a rule though, so even stuff like actor should be kept as such for both males and females imho. Something like Russian or Italian on the other hand should generalize the usage of gendered declinations.

 

[Matalarata]

Something like Russian or Italian on the other hand should generalize the usage of gendered declinations.

Some words like "Presidente" or "Dottore" alredy used a more generalist case. Since in Italian the only real difference in gendered words was traditionally the last vowel ( "A" being feminine and "O" masculine in the majority of singular cases).
When modernism hit, at the beginning of the century, that was not seen as enough representation. Hence, nowadays, a president (male) is called "Presidente" (old generic title from latin using "E") while we use "Presidentessa" for a female one. "Dottoressa" followed the same fate, my mother always insisted she's called a "Dottore", if really needed.

Frankenwords are a thing. Sorry for the OT.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Hence, nowadays, a president (male) is called "Presidente" (old generic title from latin using "E") while we use "Presidentessa" for a female one. "Dottoressa" followed the same fate, my mother always insisted she's called a "Dottore"

Which is a good thing imho. Either you gender all such nouns or you gender none.

(Although I should emphasize that my stance is purely a matter of linguistic preference rather than something ideological. Ordnung muss sein and all that.)

 

[Matalarata]

We agree to desagree on that then.

 

[Cyberarmy]

A spoiler-ish question for those on later chapters. What is the highest level of bracers of Armour you have found?

8, one from a dungeon 2 from act 5 vendors I think.

 

[Reinhardt]

So there is trap on the street in the mid level in Abyss. I decided to dimension door over it and disable it. And somehow ended on some roof on another side of the map.

 

[Riel]

I am a little fed up with the abuse of the flat footed status. I don't know about Pathfinder but when I used to play 3.5D&D flat footed was only applied when there was an actual surprise attack, not just when you opened a door in an obvious combat area and are more than expecting an enemy in every hall and corridor. Hell! sometimes a combat will end for a fraction of a second and then a new enemy will come and flat foot the whole party once more. It's silly design.

And don't get me going about the charge bug, that makes a charge fail and waste the action. I guess this will be fixed eventually, but toning down "flat footed" would actually be appreciated very much.

 

[Lord of Riva]

We agree to desagree on that then.

The argument is faulty. I do make a point to not gender myself because we do differentiate Genus and Sexus in out language and conflating the two has a myriad of issues.

But I agree with Magnat in the sense that languages evolve in a way for a reason, if these things have been evolved normally through use then there is nothing wrong with it.
I would say there is not much merit in forcing language into a specific mold, because that inevitable leads to the population not understanding each other.

And that doesn't sound like a good idea.

 

[Tacgnol]

I am a little fed up with the abuse of the flat footed status. I don't know about Pathfinder but when I used to play 3.5D&D flat footed was only applied when there was an actual surprise attack, not just when you opened a door in an obvious combat area and are more than expecting an enemy in every hall and corridor. Hell! sometimes a combat will end for a fraction of a second and then a new enemy will come and flat foot the whole party once more. It's silly design.

And don't get me going about the charge bug, that makes a charge fail and waste the action. I guess this will be fixed eventually, but toning down "flat footed" would actually be appreciated very much.

They follow the same rules as 3.5.

You're flat footed if you haven't acted in combat yet, it isn't just surprise rounds.

 

[NJClaw]

I am a little fed up with the abuse of the flat footed status. I don't know about Pathfinder but when I used to play 3.5D&D flat footed was only applied when there was an actual surprise attack, not just when you opened a door in an obvious combat area and are more than expecting an enemy in every hall and corridor. Hell! sometimes a combat will end for a fraction of a second and then a new enemy will come and flat foot the whole party once more. It's silly design.

And don't get me going about the charge bug, that makes a charge fail and waste the action. I guess this will be fixed eventually, but toning down "flat footed" would actually be appreciated very much.

D&D 3.5:

Flat-Footed
A character who has not yet acted during a combat is flat-footed, not yet reacting normally to the situation. A flat-footed character loses his Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) and cannot make attacks of opportunity.

Pathfinder:

Flat-Footed
A character who has not yet acted during a combat is flat-footed, unable to react normally to the situation. A flat-footed character loses his Dexterity bonus to AC and Combat Maneuver Defense (CMD) (if any) and cannot make attacks of opportunity, unless he has the Combat Reflexes feat or Uncanny Dodge class ability.

Characters with Uncanny Dodge retain their Dexterity bonus to their AC and can make attacks of opportunity before they have acted in the first round of combat.

Same thing in both games: you're flat-footed until your first turn.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I would say there is not much merit in forcing language into a specific mold, because that inevitable leads to the population not understanding each other.

Naturally, but depending on the way in which a spoken language has evolved, a literary standard should try to chisel it by removing as many irregularities as possible in light of those preexisting tendencies (so in this case: predominant usage of gendered nouns -> gendering of all nouns; no gendering of most nouns -> no gendering of any nouns).

 

[Matalarata]

And that doesn't sound like a good idea.

Language must evolve, I agree. Is the reasons why it does so and above all the shapes it takes I'm discussing here. But it's as OT as it can be so I'll drop it.

 

[Reinhardt]

Hell! sometimes a combat will end for a fraction of a second and then a new enemy will come and flat foot the whole party once more.

But new enemies appearing when you looking combat log after battle is textbook

surprise attack

You are NOT ready.

 

[Lord of Riva]

I would say there is not much merit in forcing language into a specific mold, because that inevitable leads to the population not understanding each other.

Naturally, but depending on the way in which a spoken language has evolved, a literary standard should try to chisel it by removing as many irregularities as possible in light of those preexisting tendencies (so in this case: predominant usage of gendered nouns -> gendering of all nouns; no gendering of most nouns -> no gendering of any nouns).

Well, it's like with "Hochdeutsch" having one language with specific meanings is greatly more beneficial than having naturally evolved dialects.

But still, the value of language is it's capacity to be used for communication that should be the main imperative. Having unclear rules is definitely something I would as well "chisel out" however from experience from our reforms trying to force that down simply does not work.

We had the "Neue Rechtschreibreform" in germany when I was a child, now nearly no-one applies ß correctly anymore. And the word "Photo" is now "Foto" but Photovoltaik is still Photovoltaik. Humans are such a Mess...

But let's not further derail the thread, I should really stop jumping on every interesting sentence that promises interesting debate.

EDIT: I guess it somewhat boils to the fact that we want to reach our goal as fast as possible and that is simply not doable. Change comes over generations, "Nobody" speaks "Plattdeutsch" anymore in my gernation, My Mother spoke mostly Hochdeutsch, my grandparents basically always Platt.

It's always a matter of time.

 

[Sunri]

stolen image

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[Urthor]

Wrath of the Righteous ground to a halt at the start of Act 5 with a corrupted cache bug, and there's like 3-4 other bugs to dodge at the end of Act 4.

Shouldn't play this game haha, it's actually unplayable, grinds to 3 FPS unless I continually quit the game and delete a cache folder.

 

[smaug]

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

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Kicked out Lady Konami and I'm going to proclaim my independence.

Spoiler

I see you played her like a goddamn fiddle.

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Devilishly so.

When you going to have a Rockoff with the Devil so he can pay your rent

Spoiler

 

[Cryomancer]

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

Go pure caster if lich. Merging spellbook is amazing. I suggest Thassilon specialist and Cruoromancer.

 

[Sharpedge]

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

I will commit the sacrilegious sin and say if you want to play a hybrid lich, go Sorc 9, Monk 1, Eldritch Knight 10.

 

[smaug]

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

Go pure caster if lich. Merging spellbook is amazing. I suggest Thassilon specialist and Cruoromancer.

I don’t like playing pure casters.

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

I will commit the sacrilegious sin and say if you want to play a hybrid lich, go Sorc 9, Monk 1, Eldritch Knight 10.

Do you dip into monk once for the AC bonus stuff? Also, since necromancer is necro spells, are they generally useful against demons? As an EK, do I need to specialize in a certain weapon (aka look up what weapon I want to use) or just not take it and use any weapon I find?

 

[Mortmal]

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

Go pure caster if lich. Merging spellbook is amazing. I suggest Thassilon specialist and Cruoromancer.

Or just the 1 monk-sorcerer- 4 dragondisciple- 10 eldritchknight classic build. You are also merging the book, gaining ton of AC, can also melee with a staff so using lich buffs to its fullest. What are you losing ? A few spell slots compare to other builds , one CL.
If you really like minions, Cruomancer get a +4 bonus to hit on undead summons, that adds to the +6 you get to the lich path but you get it quite late. Thasilonian , i tried it it works but the two extra spell slots dont work with lich spells.
All valid choices but i think the sorcerer will have an easier time.

 

[Nerevar]

I will commit the sacrilegious sin and say if you want to play a hybrid lich, go Sorc 9, Monk 1, Eldritch Knight 10.

You could put in 4 levels of dragon disciple in there.