Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[rusty_shackleford]

There is no save scumming

 

[Daidre]

But as I said just a handful of relics and some xp from quests.

Well, some counsels are entertaining, if nothing else:

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Although, people who try to RP this as a Holy Righteous Circus Crusade would probably feel a lot of an annoyance.

 

[Thonius]

Is there any reason to pick normal sorc over cross blooded sorc? What is the downside?

You get 1 less spells known in total per spell level that you have access to. So cross-blooded sorcerers have even less spells to choose from and get new spells a level later compared to non-crossblood sorcerers.

It's strange that the downside is not mentioned in the class screen, or at least from what I can tell, but the downside is there and is faithful to the Tabletop version.

Except you gain new spells from 2 bloodlines instead of one and with mythic it can be really memey with 3rd bloodline.

 

[panda]

ut it makes no sense. I don't care how epic your adventure is. Mephistopheles has 48 AC in P&P. No PC's should easily get more than it.

What, why?
48 base AC is pretty high. If he is retard and won't buff it is his problems.
If he is not and has idk... barkskin/legendaryproportions/seamantle/fcnlvl1shield he should have something like 70.
And 70 AC for PC is already not that easy to get.

But would be too hard for

tabletop larpers and no save&load, it's essentially game-journo mode.

 

[Nerevar]

Except you gain new spells from 2 bloodlines instead of one and with mythic it can be really memey with 3rd bloodline.

Could you make yourself immune to every element with 3 bloodlines?

 

[Zayne]

After clearing Battle Bliss Arena all my portal disappeared lol this game is getting better with every minute

Drop the teleport coins from your inventory and pick them up again.

 

[Thonius]

I don't think so, only to 3 I think. It's one of those things that is best tested with toybox since it's all getting together at late levels.

 

[Shadenuat]

But as I said just a handful of relics and some xp from quests.

Well, some counsels are entertaining, if nothing else:

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Although, people who try to RP this as a Holy Righteous Circus Crusade would probably feel a lot of an annoyance.

You just already got all these roses, so can't be mad at the game.

"I joke when i am sad, when i am angry, when I am I always joke lolo" - Lann just sucks.

Personally, I measure my arcane casters by their ability to be useful or, rather, satisfying through the whole game Wizard into AT > Witch > Wizard >

And you are wise. I'd rate Wizard = Witch > AT tho.

 

[Sunri]

ok i just sold the coins to arena healer opsi

 

[Lagole Gon]

I think I had my first minor messed up quest.
Sosiel talked about his brother turning into an asshole... but we never learned any details about his brother. Just that he gave away his shield.

Welp. It's rather harmless. Doesn't compare to Merril in DA2 talking about killing her whole tribe... just before POSSIBLY killing her whole tribe.
DA2 was one fucked up fever dream experience.

 

[Daidre]

Just wanted to share it. Careful, spoilers!

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Just found this note in Areelu lab:

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That... sound familiar, isn't it?

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That... explains why narrator in our Journal is so different comparing to Linzy from Kingmaker.
For example:

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Great insight into her character by the way.

And I love things like that in my RPG.

 

[Rafidur]

I thought the sosiel bro part was possibly about joining the hellknights? It's not written very well, that's for sure. All companion quest are garbage aside from Regill and Ember basically.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Just wanted to share it. Careful, spoilers!

Also at start

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you have featherfall buff on you while getting up

 

[Shadenuat]

Owlcats can be amazing with their approach to minutiae. Why can't they be amazing or at least somewhat competent more than 50% of the time though.

I can only wonder if they're good half time they are drunk or when not.

Am I right to assume that alcohol ran out after 4 chapters and then it's a crusade-HATEOT?

 

[Daidre]

Owlcats can be amazing with their approach to minutiae. Why can't they be amazing or at least somewhat competent more than 50% of the time though.

I thinks this one is pretty easy.
They have some really great writers in their team but those are probably too nice as a people to tell their not-so-great colleagues to cut down on all that filth and crap that they spew on digital paper.

Because in the year of our lord 2021, criticizing the work of your colleague or, even worse, subordinate is considered wrong.

 

[Thonius]

They really dig bloat and really bad with time.

 

[Thonius]

Owlcats can be amazing with their approach to minutiae. Why can't they be amazing or at least somewhat competent more than 50% of the time though.

I thinks this one is pretty is easy.
They have some really great writers in their team but those are probably too nice as people to tells not-so-great ones in the same team to cut down on all that filth and crap that they spew on digital paper.

Because in year of our lord 2021, criticizing the work of your colleague or, even worse, subordinates is considered wrong.

Meh, they don't have an editor and the creative director is busy doing ...x?

 

[Shadenuat]

Tbh when Avellone argued that games underuse and underpay editors, can't expect more from not so veteran studio.

But first game was edited much better. Well ok, "amazing" and "much" are not the words I'd use anyway; better-than-average or whats now edited.

 

[Efe]

greybor ending was weird

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He retires to be with her family and daughter in first paragraph.
in 2nd one hes back in abyss, killing strong candidates to instate himself as master of guild
So what he works 9 to 5 from his home and commutes to abyss?

 

[Joggerino]

I'm leveling a horse mount, and this horse is stronger than half my party. :D

 

[Tacgnol]

greybor ending was weird

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He retires to be with her family and daughter in first paragraph.
in 2nd one hes back in abyss, killing strong candidates to instate himself as master of guild
So what he works 9 to 5 from his home and commutes to abyss?

Maybe he got a ring of sustenance and gets by with 2 hours sleep.

That way he could spend the day with his family and work nights.

An efficient use of his time.

 

[jf8350143]

Beat the game, chapter 6 is pretty messy.

Why on earth would they give you mythic level 10 so late that you don't even get to use its power. Also whose brilliant idea is that to force you to use your second team of companions to fight a boss? You don't even get 6 people if you kill some of them, and there is no time to buff or change equipment and shit.

At least it's pretty short, unlike kingmaker.

 

[Cryomancer]

At least it's pretty short, unlike kingmaker.

The house at edge of time in this game is in late ch 5, not in ch 6.

 

[Shadenuat]

whose brilliant idea is that to force you to use your second team of companions to fight a boss

Fucking JRPGs

 

[volklore]

Good luck, I found chapters 1 and 2 extra tough with a Wizard compared to my current Melee Cavalier

I wish I was playing a Wizard instead of trying make these fucking late bloomer arcanists and 9 tailed weebs work.

Personally, I measure my arcane casters by their ability to be useful or, rather, satisfying through the whole game. Meaning that I look for sustainability and potential to shine as crowd controllers (which is where the arcane spellbooks really shine, but buffs are great too). This adds up to a ranking of Wizard into AT > Witch > Wizard > Sorcerer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arcanist. AT is a meme, but it's a reliable meme that serves as both CC and a more than reliable blaster. Witches are great, they get to play at 'being a caster with infinite spellcasting' from the very beginning and a good choice of Patron can more than make up for their spellbook. Wizards beat Sorcerers, imo, due metamagic and faster spell progression. Sorcerers, however, do have a niche in super charging narrow schools of magic (say, you can combine Fey and Arcane Bloodlines to eventually get +4 to all offensive enchantment spells. Plus Expanded Arsenal seems to work with Arcane's school power). And Arcanist is the very worst of all possible worlds. Bad spell progression, meh class features, no extra feats. Being an Arcanist is the maximum of using spontaneous casting as a crutch.

Sorcs have pretty good memes going for them in this game. Kindred half elf is a pretty strong starting class for DC cha sorcs (can start with +4Cha). Or going elven sage sorcs leads to insane extra bloodline memes. Sage sorcs are int sorcs whose bloodline is basically a replication of the arcane bloodline. However, the game doesn't classify their bloodline as being 'The' arcane bloodline. Meaning they can pick a second arcane bloodline through mythic feat and get double the new arcana and 2x school power. Those 3 extra spell picks are going to be much stronger than most bloodline spells you would get instead. I have to say though, wizards are really tempting this time around since you get more rests than in kingmaker and abundant casting mythic abilties makes the main advantage of Sorc over wizard (more casts) a lot less significant. Abundant casting makes me want to finally make a diviner to use the seemingly really cool specialization powers (strong initiative and the aura).

Though I don't get your point about metamagic. In what way do wizards benefit from metamagic more than sorcs ?