Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Longes]

Dimension Door? Travel Domain? Conjuration's and Arcanist's teleports?

 

[Stoned Ape]

I usually send crusade ahead of me to clean up demon's armies, since crossing them on the global map is the source of nastiest random encounters, and to claim the region.

I walked past an enemy army in unoccupied territory and had a fight with an enraged undead smilodon packleader in early chapter 3 (I was around 10th-11th level, I think).

They drop amulets of mighty fists +4 (+5 with trickster and Arcane trick) which are amazing loot for that stage in the game. You just have to get lucky with the encounter RNG to pull them from the encounter deck.

Also managed to grab a second a bit later on from a lucky encounter without an army present, so now both Seela's horse and Wenduag's leopard have one.

 

[Cryomancer]

For DC based casters, is Azata and then the Demon the best mythic path? I'm not talking about DPS

 

[Stoned Ape]

For DC based casters, is Azata and then the Demon the best mythic path? I'm not talking about DPS

I think so, followed by Aeon with enforcing gaze + and - DC. On top of that, Aeon can also suppress demonic mythic abilities (no save), which can make a huge difference to spells getting through.

 

[Longes]

For DC based casters, is Azata and then the Demon the best mythic path? I'm not talking about DPS

Azata gives you consistency across all encounters. Demon lets you win two-three encounters a day where you activate your Rage and toss ultra-high DC Weird or something at people. Aeon is not quite as good as either, but lets you jack up the DCs of your entire party.

 

[ArchAngel]

Good Dog

Damn, how did you get him to 80 Str? Not even Mythic Companion gives so much bonus...
Animal Growth?

 

[ArchAngel]

I am just doing the Threshold map. It is very irritating for Lich due to

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not being able to rest and you cannot raise your dead undead companions in any other ways... and every encounter has those crazy archers that destroy my melee dude if he try to be part of the battle lol

 

[The_Mask]

I have an in-depth mechanical question here:

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Is the Demon Graft affected by Magic Nullification and/or Aeon Crystal Mind?

If anyone knows if it is a mind-affecting spell, let me know as well.

 

[Sykar]

I just checked the WotR wiki and noticed that there are no new spells for the basic sorcerer/wizard. Are there a lot of new spells via other means at least for the original base classes? I guess mythic paths and some other stuff offers some new spells.

 

[Sergiu64]

For DC based casters, is Azata and then the Demon the best mythic path? I'm not talking about DPS

I think so, followed by Aeon with enforcing gaze + and - DC. On top of that, Aeon can also suppress demonic mythic abilities (no save), which can make a huge difference to spells getting through.

I kept thinking DC gaze does not help Aeon himself due to description of the ability. But it seems it does.

 

[Daidre]

I just checked the WotR wiki and noticed that there are no new spells for the basic sorcerer/wizard. Are there a lot of new spells via other means at least for the original base classes? I guess mythic paths and some other stuff offers some new spells.

There is some new spells, but not a lot of them. Magic/Greater Magic weapon is important addition in its ridiculous implementation (even +1 version stacks with your weapon enhancement bonus), but those were already present in Eldritch Arcana/CotW mods, so I had not even considered them "new".

 

[smaug]

I am just doing the Threshold map. It is very irritating for Lich due to

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not being able to rest and you cannot raise your dead undead companions in any other ways... and every encounter has those crazy archers that destroy my melee dude if he try to be part of the battle lol

What undead lich companion did you take?

 

[ArchAngel]

I just checked the WotR wiki and noticed that there are no new spells for the basic sorcerer/wizard. Are there a lot of new spells via other means at least for the original base classes? I guess mythic paths and some other stuff offers some new spells.

There is some new spells, but not a lot of them. Magic/Greater Magic weapon is important addition in its ridiculous implementation (even +1 version stacks with your weapon enhancement bonus), but those were already present in Eldritch Arcana/CotW mods, so I had not even considered them "new".

Not as ridiculous as Magic Armor spells. Magic Weapon at least stops at +5 total weapon enchantment, Magic Armor goes beyond and if you also use a shield that is easy "free" +10 to armor bonus

 

[ArchAngel]

I am just doing the Threshold map. It is very irritating for Lich due to

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not being able to rest and you cannot raise your dead undead companions in any other ways... and every encounter has those crazy archers that destroy my melee dude if he try to be part of the battle lol

What undead lich companion did you take?

Fighter Archer at 1st pick and Cleric at 2nd pick. So now he is lvl 19 fighter archer/lvl 10 cleric.

 

[MiX]

Nice random encounter, I guess my party didn't notice the two gigantic undead mammoths

WOW, fat shaming much?

What do you know? Maybe those mammoths took 20 Rogue levels and are some kind of stealth-masters.

#Stealthy at any size

 

[Erebus]

Nice random encounter, I guess my party didn't notice the two gigantic undead mammoths and the lich as tall as them and just walked by.

I had a similar random encounter, except without the lich. Right from the start, the mammoths were so close that they didn't need to take a single step in order to attack my party. Very realistic.

Unfortunately, poor encounter design isn't limited to random encounters. Far from it.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Borg dungeon fuckin' suuuuuucks!



I can't hit them, and they can't hit me. The only thing that made it bearable was trickster intimidation stun and negative energy dmg on MISS Scythe.

 

[ArchAngel]

Khorramzadeh in Threshold... wtf

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How am I supposed to deal with his unstopable 2x lighting that ignores all resistances and murders half my party in one turn? Do I need to turn off TB and just run back until duration of that shitty ability expires?

 

[ArchAngel]

Khorramzadeh in Threshold... wtf

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How am I supposed to deal with his unstopable 2x lighting that ignores all resistances and murders half my party in one turn? Do I need to turn off TB and just run back until duration of that shitty ability expires?

Ok, this is exactly what I did, fucking stupid...

 

[ArchAngel]

Continuing my endgame run. Raised 3 Malignant Succubus Deadeye as my Undead servants, each has +49 attack with -8 deadly aim on, each does about 45 damage per hit lol and with my Lich bonuses they got 500 life each :D

 

[Lagole Gon]

Sorry Hulrun...

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But my girlfriend is a ritualistic cannibal serial murderer which pretty much makes me a ritualistic cannibal serial murderer accomplice. And that halfling traitor wasn't very filling...

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Playing Cavalier, I will say this game feels better balanced than Kingmaker. Not that that's a huge accomplishment.

Cav is still pretty bugged, in TB you frequently get stuck on corners and lose a turn, and half the time you can't even attack at all. On the plus side spirited charge is completely busted--if you score a crit you're supposed to add the multipliers then subtract 1. So a 2x charge and 2x crit becomes a 3x hit, but this game doubles it twice for 4x damage, or 6x with a triple crit weapon. So it's mostly gimped but occasionally hilarious. We'll see how much I can min max once I get Mounted mastery (add mount strength to charge damage) and switch to 2-handed fighter for Overhead chop.

Once again I see the game is a betray-a-thon and you are actively punished for using premade characters. While the NPCs seem to have better stats their builds are arguably even worse than KM, since they come into the party later they're harder to salvage. I do applaud the game for giving you quite a selection of spellcasters off the bat. On the other hand that means if your main isn't melee then Seelah basically needs to carry the whole team.

And FYI for anyone wondering yes crane wing is still stupidly broken

 

[lycanwarrior]

ACT 4 has major memory leak issues where everything becomes unresponsive and sometimes can't even access/enter a door. Can't play for more than an hour before having to exit and restart the game.

 

[Shaki]

ACT 4 has major memory leak issues where everything becomes unresponsive and sometimes can't even access/enter a door. Can't play for more than an hour before having to exit and restart the game.

I had no problems with memory leaks in Act 4. But Drezen in acts 3/5 was unbearable, this whole fucking city is just one massive memory leak.

 

[volklore]

For DC based casters, is Azata and then the Demon the best mythic path? I'm not talking about DPS

I think so, followed by Aeon with enforcing gaze + and - DC. On top of that, Aeon can also suppress demonic mythic abilities (no save), which can make a huge difference to spells getting through.

Just a few points from what I have played with azata if you want to go for it. Most DC increasing stuff from azata just flat out doesn't work.
-Ode to miraculous magic does not increase will based DCs (the spell pen part of the spell works)
-Believe in yourself you apparently only get in your spellbook if you fulfill certain sub-path : I followed the subpath that acts according to the advice of early sunset and I did not get this spell. It might be that some of the choices you make during the act 3 mythic quest also are involved in this. Regardless you can access the buff through 'Chaotic Healing'. And it also does not work properly, should be giving you +1 stat/ 4 azata caster level, instead gives +1 stats/4 mythic ranks, which is a lot worse.
-The azata spell that restores spellbooks up to level 7 doesn't work either, I have read (havent gotten it yet)
-Haven't gotten to the song that is supposed to buff DCs of the whole party yet but it could be borked as well.

Even with all that the path still strong very strong for DC casters. Favorable magic is insane for DC based stuff, however, any spell that leaves a hazard (so most conjuration crowd control spells) will not be affected and any saves that are triggered after the initial cast of any spell will also not be affected.