Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ga♥]

Even after clearing the whole map in Chapt. 3 I had random armies popping up from time to time to attack me.

And there are periodic researches to do to increase the morale.

 

[Haplo]

Well then, I have great news for you.

Frightful aspect and Reduce person improperly stack. Cast frightful aspect, then reduce person on your character. They'll enlarge, then shrink, and keep all of the str/dex stat increases (with the reduce person strength malus as well).

Course, your character will be small, and will look down right funny when riding your Smilodon....but it'll work*

*I do not take responsibility if anything goes horribly horribly wrong if you try this :D

edit - oh, and you'll have the weapon dice malus. You should still be north on the damage scale from the strength bonus.

Very interesting, thank you. I'm slightly concerned about attack range going out of whack again (and for example my small character unable to attack while the Smilo can), but I'll see I guess.
Also the CMB Trip malus would kinda sting once I start Pummelling Bullying, but I guess I'd just have to live with that.

Actually, I was wondering if Kitsune might be the only race that would work (not sure it's actually advantageous over halfling and gnome since they still take a strength penalty), because their change self to human form thing makes them not appear larger when using the enlarge person spell, so they might be in the same boat as the non-horse mounts. Might be worth a shot anyway, enlarge the kitsune in human form and try mounting... The only thing that will suck about this is you won't be able to use vulpine pounce if it works.

Interesting. I guess I'll try. But either way it's not a great solution for me, as pounce charging (eventually) is kinda the point of the build... Well, I guess I can try using it for 2 levels anyway. Though not exactly sure if its worth the loss of Kitsune Bite. Guess it depends on what impact it may have on reach (and if it does increase it, does it cause issues with MC and AC reach de-syncing?).

 

[Mauman]

Well then, I have great news for you.

Frightful aspect and Reduce person improperly stack. Cast frightful aspect, then reduce person on your character. They'll enlarge, then shrink, and keep all of the str/dex stat increases (with the reduce person strength malus as well).

Course, your character will be small, and will look down right funny when riding your Smilodon....but it'll work*

*I do not take responsibility if anything goes horribly horribly wrong if you try this :D

edit - oh, and you'll have the weapon dice malus. You should still be north on the damage scale from the strength bonus.

Very interesting, thank you. I'm slightly concerned about attack range going out of whack again (and for example my small character unable to attack while the Smilo can), but I'll see I guess.

Actually, I was wondering if Kitsune might be the only race that would work (not sure it's actually advantageous over halfling and gnome since they still take a strength penalty), because their change self to human form thing makes them not appear larger when using the enlarge person spell, so they might be in the same boat as the non-horse mounts. Might be worth a shot anyway, enlarge the kitsune in human form and try mounting... The only thing that will suck about this is you won't be able to use vulpine pounce if it works.

Interesting. I guess I'll try. But either way it's not a great solution for me, as pounce charging (eventually) is kinda the point of the build... Well, I guess I can try using it for 2 levels anyway. Though not exactly sure if its worth the loss of Kitsune Bite. Guess it depends on what impact it may have on reach (and if it does increase it, does it cause issues with MC and AC reach de-syncing?).

Perhaps a reach weapon will fix the issue if it's present? There's a longspear in chapter 5 that's designed to work with mounted combat. Considering the weapon is supposed to do an additional 8d6 on a charge, I'd be interested to see if works with pounce.

 

[Haplo]

So far, reach weapons were more trouble then help in Turn Based mounted combat (mostly prevented the mount from attacking, also forced additional manual movements, as GUI showed you could attack, but you couldn't execute the command). But maybe they could be useful if your size decreases.

That said, I've moved to falchions (currently 15-20/x3 with Mythic Improved Crit) and given the crit profiles of most reach weapons, I'm not too keen to go back (fauchards need an extra feat and don't have great representation early... in fact they never seem as great). Also, Act 5 is awfully late... and Jinx, easily available at start of chapter 2, is just one of the best weapons around.

 

[Swen]

Pathfinder isn't even in the same league.

Yep. BG3 is in the game journalists league and Pathfinder is in the true RPG league.

Even in BG3 thread, people talk more about Pathfinder than BG3.

Yes talking about how sad owlcucks are.

Anyway cry all you want, DOS2 is better than Cuckfinder, BG3 is on another level and it will dominate your beloved cuck game in scores and sales.

Will drink your tears in a year or two.

 

[Cryomancer]

Pathfinder isn't even in the same league.

Yep. BG3 is in the game journalists league and Pathfinder is in the true RPG league.

Even in BG3 thread, people talk more about Pathfinder than BG3.

Yes talking about how sad owlcucks are.

Anyway cry all you want, DOS2 is better than Cuckfinder, BG3 is on another level and it will dominate your beloved cuck game in scores and sales.

Will drink your tears in a year or two.

LOL. Who said that DOS2 will not sell more than Pathfinder games? And be more praised by game journalists?

The success of a product depends on his proposal, costs and profits. Otherwise, a Ferrari will be considered a worse product than a popular car cuz the popular car sells more. When the proposal of the Ferrari was never to sell to the masses. Same with Pathfinder RPG's. It is not made to appease game journalists. It probably costs less than 5% of BG3, if sells 10% of BG3, is already multiple times more profitable. And I never said that BG3 will be bad. Once modders remove all Larienism from the game and make it 3E, I will play it. I already paid for it(In Argentine Currency)

 

[Thonius]

Seelah have 0 redeeming qualities just plain boring character with shitty character arc about her friends lol

Not everyone is a snowflake mkey sweety?
No, really sometimes it's good to have plain bro/sister without cockroaches in the head. Otherwise, it's not a party it's a circus on the run.
Now, after finishing sosiel quest it seems that I collect negroes, SSoSSiel, traver, Seelah who's next? Is there a way to sell some excessive muscle force?

 

[Swen]

Pathfinder isn't even in the same league.

Yep. BG3 is in the game journalists league and Pathfinder is in the true RPG league.

Even in BG3 thread, people talk more about Pathfinder than BG3.

Yes talking about how sad owlcucks are.

Anyway cry all you want, DOS2 is better than Cuckfinder, BG3 is on another level and it will dominate your beloved cuck game in scores and sales.

Will drink your tears in a year or two.

LOL. Who said that DOS2 will not sell more than Pathfinder games? And be more praised by game journalists?

The success of a product depends on his proposal, costs and profits. Otherwise, a Ferrari will be considered a worse product than a popular car cuz the popular car sells more. When the proposal of the Ferrari was never to sell to the masses. Same with Pathfinder RPG's. It is not made to appease game journalists. It probably costs less than 5% of BG3, if sells 10% of BG3, is already multiple times more profitable. And I never said that BG3 will be bad. Once modders remove all Larienism from the game and make it 3E, I will play it. I already paid for it(In Argentine Currency)

"muh ferrari"

Reminder:

Oh and this pic is outdated...Wrath of the cuck dropped even lower, LOL

Keep damage controlling Messi.

 

[Fedora Master]

Because random normals are the measure of success for cRPGs.

 

[Thonius]

Pathfinder isn't even in the same league.

Yep. BG3 is in the game journalists league and Pathfinder is in the true RPG league.

Even in BG3 thread, people talk more about Pathfinder than BG3.

Yes talking about how sad owlcucks are.

Anyway cry all you want, DOS2 is better than Cuckfinder, BG3 is on another level and it will dominate your beloved cuck game in scores and sales.

Will drink your tears in a year or two.

LOL. Who said that DOS2 will not sell more than Pathfinder games? And be more praised by game journalists?

The success of a product depends on his proposal, costs and profits. Otherwise, a Ferrari will be considered a worse product than a popular car cuz the popular car sells more. When the proposal of the Ferrari was never to sell to the masses. Same with Pathfinder RPG's. It is not made to appease game journalists. It probably costs less than 5% of BG3, if sells 10% of BG3, is already multiple times more profitable. And I never said that BG3 will be bad. Once modders remove all Larienism from the game and make it 3E, I will play it. I already paid for it(In Argentine Currency)

"muh ferrari"

Reminder:

Oh and this pic is outdated...Wrath of the cuck dropped even lower, LOL

Keep damage controlling Messi.

I see that you like apples and don't like oranges, but look more people buy oranges than apples? Would you like to reconsider?
Uh... sweetie.

 

[Longes]

Because random normals are the measure of success for cRPGs.

No, obviously sales-to-budget ration is the measure of success for cRPGs. Which is why Pillars of Eternity 2 is a terrible disastertastrophy despite being polished to a mirror sheen.

That said, D:OS 1 having the highest score of these four games is everything you need to know about that picture.

 

[ferratilis]

Fuck both apples and oranges. Take lemons, straight into your eyeballs like a man.

 

[Thonius]

Well, metacritics as in score from "critics" (member story mode is made for them) we can safely ignore, user critics score well it can be inflated/faked but more or less can be correct ( sans state at release/state after patchies ). Still won't change the fact that I don't like DOS games and Larian humor, lore, lvl design etc etc.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Why did they remove the one column formation from the presets, FFS?!

 

[Cryomancer]

Pathfinder isn't even in the same league.

Yep. BG3 is in the game journalists league and Pathfinder is in the true RPG league.

Even in BG3 thread, people talk more about Pathfinder than BG3.

Yes talking about how sad owlcucks are.

Anyway cry all you want, DOS2 is better than Cuckfinder, BG3 is on another level and it will dominate your beloved cuck game in scores and sales.

Will drink your tears in a year or two.

LOL. Who said that DOS2 will not sell more than Pathfinder games? And be more praised by game journalists?

The success of a product depends on his proposal, costs and profits. Otherwise, a Ferrari will be considered a worse product than a popular car cuz the popular car sells more. When the proposal of the Ferrari was never to sell to the masses. Same with Pathfinder RPG's. It is not made to appease game journalists. It probably costs less than 5% of BG3, if sells 10% of BG3, is already multiple times more profitable. And I never said that BG3 will be bad. Once modders remove all Larienism from the game and make it 3E, I will play it. I already paid for it(In Argentine Currency)

"muh ferrari"

Reminder:

Oh and this pic is outdated...Wrath of the cuck dropped even lower, LOL

Keep damage controlling Messi.

Yep. Game journos who can't beat IWD:EE in story mode like your games. We get it. How it translated into quality? According to game journos Diablo 3 is a great game and Temple of Elemental Evil is a average game.

Your fans testing a good RPG

obviously sales-to-budget ration is the measure of success

Using that metric, minecraft is the best game ever. hu3hu3hu3, a game should be judged by his proposal, target audience expectancy and so on. The profit / budget shows only how profitable the game is. Not perfect, but way better than "0/10 cuz I can't play in story mode" game journos.

metacritics as in score from "critics" (member story mode is made for them) we can safely ignore, user critics score well it can be inflated/faked but more or less can be correct ( sans state at release/state after patchies

According to Swen if someone from OwlCat sleeps with the retarded game journos in exchange for 10/10, or they pay hookers it will suddenly become a better game

Fuck both apples and oranges. Take lemons, straight into your eyeballs like a man.

If BG2:SoA was launched today, it would't be praised by game journos...

 

[Fedora Master]

Fuck both apples and oranges. Take lemons, straight into your eyeballs like a man.

 

[Nerevar]

So does that mean this hardcore CRPG is better than PF:K and Wotr?

Spoiler

 

[Thonius]

What about oblivion?

 

[Longes]

Using that metric, minecraft is the best game ever. hu3hu3hu3, a game should be judged by his proposal, target audience expectancy and so on. The profit / budget shows only how profitable the game is. Not perfect, but way better than "0/10 cuz I can't play in story mode" game journos.

Yeah? Like, you are saying this as if it's a gotcha. Minecraft is a massively successful game that made Notch rich and Gates richer. Every studio wishes their game had a fraction of the success that Minecraft has.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Diablo 3 is a great game and Temple of Elemental Evil is a average game.

Diablo 3 has 83% more barbarians than ToEE though.

 

[Sunri]

Pathfinder isn't even in the same league.

Yep. BG3 is in the game journalists league and Pathfinder is in the true RPG league.

Even in BG3 thread, people talk more about Pathfinder than BG3.

Yes talking about how sad owlcucks are.

Anyway cry all you want, DOS2 is better than Cuckfinder, BG3 is on another level and it will dominate your beloved cuck game in scores and sales.

Will drink your tears in a year or two.

You can drink my piss righ now

 

[Yosharian]

Lol, spirited charge + mounted mastery + mythic power attack and my charge damage went from 40 to 80 in one level, with crits doing 240 (longspear).

now how to work pounce in there, unless there are items the only source I know of is Barb rage powers

Find the boots, ez 30 40 dmg depending on your atl skill, not sure if it's skill points only or...

It's ranks and it doesn't work at the moment

 

[Swen]

Hahahaha, the damage control from Owlcucks knows no bounds. Quite amusing I must admit.

 

[Yosharian]

Am I really going to lose Seelah permanently when I go full lich?

This is really going to hit me hard because I'm playing with the option for only my active party members to receive experience points and haven't built up anyone else even close to resembling a tank.

It might hurt so bad to lose her that now I'm second-guessing going lich at all.

Please advise, and please do so without specific spoilers -- and by tagging me (I avoid this thread in general so as to not spoil myself).

Thanks from Ye Olde Man.

I mean just use Toy Box to mod the XP of one of the other party members and then use them instead.

A bit cheaty but better than just abandoning the run.

 

[Yosharian]

Speaking about Seelah, my first playthrough was 100% blind Lich so I wasn't absolutely sure how, when or if she would actually leave, but I could've seen it coming. Anyhow, I've invested so much in the bitch, including the Realm Protector armor (that one bonkers full plate that grants you stackable DR for every dead outsider in vicinity, essentially making you invulnerable at the time and it really was a godsend for the first few patches before they heavily nerfed Core difficulty and tweaked many enemies). So this bitch just comes up after Iomedae and she pulls off the "SHIEEEEET COMMANDAH DEAD BE NASTY" and leaves my ass and the biggest problem for me was that I couldn't hunt down the bitch and get the items back, either due to a bug or a lack of opportunity, not sure which.

I have questions, where did you get that Armour from and what mythic rank were you when you got it?

Also does the stacking have a limit to it