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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Raghar

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All healers are black. Black strong woman Sheela. And black sensitive cleric Sosiel.
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I listed him under the "And then you have all various horn and spider legs stuff..." category.

And at low level when you need one person to have BOTH freedom of movement and death ward, he has issues. He can get firestorm and be fine fire mage.
 

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Nenio's for the buffs and mass killing mobs with Weird.
I went 20 Wizard for Nenio as well, and I think it's the only one I regret. She really is made to be a Loremaster.
I have no idea how you'd get nenio to have weirds with decent DC. Everything has so much spell resist and saves, making 3 75% rolls in a row is not good odds, and I can't even manage to get better than 50% on the saves most of the time (admittedly I have not spent every single perk point on school specialization, so that's maybe on me).

I'm actually a bit disappointed with arcane magic in this game in general. Haste is incredible, but beyond that there's not that much good stuff. Mind blank would be nice, but it doesn't seem to work on like half the effects it should.

If you get all spell focus, spell specialization, mythic feats, get her INT items and the illusion ring you can get decent DC weird. Obviously you won't kill bosses and neither more robust mobs but I still had use for it in the last dungeon of the game, and it was on hard.

Also there is the meal recipe that adds 1 DC to your spell.
When/if they add persistent to favorite metamagic you can have it on weird with completely normal as trickster also.
 

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If you kill Deskari before you kill his mobs, you can even loot him mid battle and get his Scythe. You won't have time to equip it or chance to use it though:

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On my trickster run i could loot him after the second fight, i only got to use his weapon for Areelu fight. I forgot to try the on use thingy:negative:
 

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Nenio's for the buffs and mass killing mobs with Weird.
I went 20 Wizard for Nenio as well, and I think it's the only one I regret. She really is made to be a Loremaster.
I have no idea how you'd get nenio to have weirds with decent DC. Everything has so much spell resist and saves, making 3 75% rolls in a row is not good odds, and I can't even manage to get better than 50% on the saves most of the time (admittedly I have not spent every single perk point on school specialization, so that's maybe on me).

I'm actually a bit disappointed with arcane magic in this game in general. Haste is incredible, but beyond that there's not that much good stuff. Mind blank would be nice, but it doesn't seem to work on like half the effects it should.
What would you consider "decent" when talking about DC? Without shenanigans, my Nenio's Weird has a DC of 42 for the Will save and 44 for the Fortitude one, which is enough to thin out most encounters on Core, especially considering how easy it is to lower enemies' saves in this game. Dirge of Doom/Frightful Aspect give a non-resistible -2 to all saves to everyone who isn't immune to fear effects, the Display of Power belt gives a non-resistible -2 to Will saves to everyone, the Angel's Piercing Rays gives a scaling non-resistible penalty (and right now it's bugged and gets applied twice), the Twisted Temptation should give another -2 (but they don't always work right now). Then you also have resistible effects like Archon's Aura and the lyre relic that gives a -5 against mind-affecting effects.

In my experience, arcane magic can carry you for 90% of the game. Grease, Glitterdust, and Shout solved almost every encounter for the first 3 chapters, and they're still relevant during chapter 4 and 5. Stormbolts has destroyed everything in chapter 4 thanks to the Devoring Lust rod, and it's still dominating every encounter in chapter 5. Mass Icy Prison will probably do the same once Owlcat decides to fix it.

Mind blank would be nice, but it doesn't seem to work on like half the effects it should.
Mind Blank is close to useless, since it was nerfed in Pathfinder and it now gives a bonus that doesn't stack with your regular Cloak of Resistance. You can easily get tons of +5 cloaks in chapter 4 and even higher in chapter 5, so Mind Blank will only give you a +3 or +2, not the full +8 (and definitely not immunity).

If you get all spell focus, spell specialization, mythic feats, get her INT items and the illusion ring you can get decent DC weird.
You an also rely on items that boost your mind-affecting DCs, like the glass amulet sold in Drezen (I think).

Also there is the meal recipe that adds 1 DC to your spell.
During chapter 4, you can find a recipe that adds 2 to your DCs.
 
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Power attack is pretty much not worth it in Wrath unless you are running a Legend build or something with insanely high AB. Since AB requirements go up as high as 85 in Unfair. (Before debuffs are taken into account though)
 

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In my experience, arcane magic can carry you for 90% of the game. Grease, Glitterdust, and Shout solved almost every encounter for the first 3 chapters, and they're still relevant during chapter 4 and 5. Stormbolts has destroyed everything in chapter 4 thanks to the Devoring Lust rod, and it's still dominating every encounter in chapter 5. Mass Icy Prison will probably do the same once Owlcat decides to fix it.
The key point is that while you may not be able to kill every Demon Lord by beating enemy saves with simple CC, those spells will remain useful against normal encounters even as you transition to nuking enemies dead by midgame onwards. It is very much the same as in Kingmaker, except that with Bolstered Metamagic the nuking play style is better than ever.
 

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If you fail 1 (or more) of the checks, and you talk to Pink Eye, you get some gloves that are pretty good for an unarmed character. :obviously:
For any character that uses natural attacks, including a Kineticist. Maybe it is a bug, but those "mighty fists" amulets worked the same way in Kingmaker.

Wait what? Kinetic blasts are considered to be natural attacks?​
 

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
 

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.
 

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If you fail 1 (or more) of the checks, and you talk to Pink Eye, you get some gloves that are pretty good for an unarmed character. :obviously:
For any character that uses natural attacks, including a Kineticist. Maybe it is a bug, but those "mighty fists" amulets worked the same way in Kingmaker.

Wait what? Kinetic blasts are considered to be natural attacks?​

Either I forgot about this since I don't use kineticists much or I never knew. Either way mind blown.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder...uery_for_the_kineticist_what_class_of_weapon/
 

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.

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Like this one?
 

NJClaw

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.

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Like this one?
Yes

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.
Tue, their souls are blacker than any mere party member could ever be.
 

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Power attack is pretty much not worth it in Wrath unless you are running a Legend build or something with insanely high AB. Since AB requirements go up as high as 85 in Unfair. (Before debuffs are taken into account though)

Maybe on core if you have a bard merc, cleric merc and if they don't fix scrolls of legendary proportions not using bones.
 
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Raghar

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Camellia can do druid stuff. Including swarms. And if she selects additional path, she can get animal companion at level 16. So she's kinda like druid, just without shapeshifting.
 

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.

Vampires have very pale skin and are very selective of those who they share their bloodline.
 

Raghar

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.

Vampires have very pale skin and are very selective of those who they share their bloodline.
Well term dhampir is from Balkans, thus we should ask fantadomat about details.

Also NJClaw Put image of that black person into spoiler tag. (It's a photo of real world person, singer/dancer, kinda offtopic for discussions about dhampirs).
 

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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.
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All healers are black.

Not if you play as a lich. You can heal yourself since chapter 2 if you are a dhampir. Azatas gain a dragon companion healer who also can heal you. Angels can self heal. I don't care about the race of companions. What really bugs me is that ... We don't get a single druid companion.
Imagine thinking that if you're playing a dhampir you aren't playing an African American.

Vampires have very pale skin and are very selective of those who they share their bloodline.
Well term dhampir is from Balkans, thus we should ask fantadomat about details.

Also NJClaw Put image of that black person into spoiler tag. (It's a photo of real world person, singer/dancer, kinda offtopic for discussions about dhampirs).
Well they are the ones that could kill vampires in here,most of them become a vampire hunters. Also vampires are more different than the film shit,tho it shows how they put different aspects together and made the modern vamp.

In our tales vamps are ghost/mist/shadow in the first 40 days that comes to feed upon its family,during that time everyone could go and dug him out and spike the fuck. After that they become human like that go leave their village because they will be recognized and fuck off to suck blood from humans and animals. For the first 3 years they are more like rakes from the creepypasta. After 3 years they begin to get powers and shit. Also here we call them different name,it is closer to fleshling,because they are rotten corpses that look/pretend to be humans. Vamps also could go around the world during the day after 40th day,but before that they will die from it.

Dhampir are the kids of the vamp,if the vamp fucked some wench. Their special skills is to be able to see vamps and other supernatural shit for what it is. Also such people are born without vamp but on a special day,and they have different name. To kill them they pierce them trough the heart with heated pure iron stake or they burn the corpse. After it dies,there is a blood squish on its tomb.
 

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Grease, Glitterdust, and Shout solved almost every encounter for the first 3 chapters
How do you use Shout? I mean - besides "I cast it, and everything dies".
What do you mean?

Being a sonic evocation spell that targets Fortitude, it's almost as supported as Nenio's illusions: there's the cloak that gives +2 DC to evocation spells, the vest that gives +2 DC to Fortitude saves, and the amulet that gives +2 DC to sonic spells. Apparently, there's also a sling staff, but what the fuck is a sling staff? You don't really use it to kill anyone, but for a wizard focused on Conjuration and Evocation, an AoE stun that targets Fortitude and ignores SR is a great way to cover all your bases together with Grease, Glitterdust, and later Chains of Light. This allows you to delay Mythic Spell Penetration to mid chapter 4, since none of your core spells care about SR. A Conjuration/Evocation Wizard or Sorcerer is great in this game.

If you meant "how do you aim it", I exclusively play in TB mode, so it really isn't an issue. I wouldn't use it nearly as much in RTwP without Selective Spell.
 

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I can dish 772 damage in a turn as a Azata at lv 19.

Chain Lightning Maximized + empowered + evocation bonus = 193 damage
Chain Lightning Maximized + empowered + evocation bonus + ZIPPY magic = 193 * 2 damage = 386
Chain Lightning Maximized + empowered + evocation bonus + ZIPPY magic + grandmaster quicken rod to cast twice in a round = 193 * 2 * 2 = 772 damage.

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That is enough power to kill an Ancient Red Dragon twice in P&P.

And my dragon pet breath is so powerful.

"but demons resist electricity"

I use the elemental specialist to convert everything to cold and ascended element(cold), so I can deal full damage no matter what.
 

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