Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[LannTheStupid]

D_X :friendly:

(When they restore my rating ability? If ever?)

 

[Cryomancer]

A saving throw To get out of Icy Prison was rolled against Caster Level, while it should have been 15+Caster Level - fixed;

Meredoth

Finally. I can make my Azata Cryomancer!!!

Thanks Mystra!!!!

I was thinking that they would NEVER fix it...

 

[LannTheStupid]

Finally. I can make my Azata Cryomancer!!!

So what - the save to get out of Icy Prison depends solely on the caster level? So it is 35 max, and no more?

Are you sure you can keep serious enemies in the prison on Hard+ ?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Petition to have Owlcat revert the Icy Prison spell to its former behaviour as it is now too OP.

 

[purupuru]

Which characters are heavy hitters DPS, I got lann and I had Wenduag so now I'm missing one DPS character and I don't know which companion do I replace her with.

Camellia has decent damage with elemental barrage, and can self buff with divine power for boss fights (unlike cleric, shaman's level 4 spells are lackluster so you might as well memorize divine power). Regill is good but his competitive edge mostly comes from the bug with additional damage trigger which affects Honorable Judgement, you can dip 1 level of bloodrager/celestial to exploit the bug even further. Greybor is a great dps if you manage to keep him alive, I like to use him for shield bash, you can also turn him into an axe thrower (at the cost of a couple wasted feats) since you lost Wenduag.

 

[Jaedar]

I just wish they fix the difficulty related achievements.

They work for me, although sometimes they don't trigger until I save, exit the game, and load the save. I am playing on *exactly* core difficulty.

 

[Cryomancer]

Finally. I can make my Azata Cryomancer!!!

So what - the save to get out of Icy Prison depends solely on the caster level? So it is 35 max, and no more?

Are you sure you can keep serious enemies in the prison on Hard+ ?

Not truth. Spell specialization can bring it to 37 and the save is not a fortitude save. Is a STRENGTH save. So, if you have +30 STR, you have +10 for STR checks. Here is a guy complaining that the spell is OP in kingmaker https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/3159763879070543897/

Note that you can ignore cold immunity in this game and that certain MP allow you to reach much higher caster level.

EDIT: Now I will try Unfair in WoTR. I already completed Kingmaker in Unfair.

 

[Haplo]

daily reminder that WotR and Deadfire are still the best isometric tactical crpgs ever made

Let's not forget Kingmaker...

 

[Haplo]

So can anybody briefly summurize the best changes/new stuff during the past 2-3 patches?

Well, they broke mounted combat in multiple ways.

• A mount and a rider's charge attack commands didn't "know" about each other, and interacted weirdly - fixed;

Hell, finally!

No mention about mounted AoOs interrupting iterative attack chain though
That bug is pretty nasty also.

Fingers crossed. It looks like a good list of fixes though and they sometimes fix things without documenting it in the patch notes... (This in no way suggests that they've fixed it or even that the fixes documented actually work in the real world.)

Well, what do you know. It appears they fixed that attack chain interrupt too!
YAY!

Back in business!


Half of the Pair amulet still doesn't work with mounts. Oh well, that's a minor nitpick now.

 

[ArchAngel]

Finally. I can make my Azata Cryomancer!!!

So what - the save to get out of Icy Prison depends solely on the caster level? So it is 35 max, and no more?

Are you sure you can keep serious enemies in the prison on Hard+ ?

Not truth. Spell specialization can bring it to 37 and the save is not a fortitude save. Is a STRENGTH save. So, if you have +30 STR, you have +10 for STR checks. Here is a guy complaining that the spell is OP in kingmaker https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/3159763879070543897/

Note that you can ignore cold immunity in this game and that certain MP allow you to reach much higher caster level.

EDIT: Now I will try Unfair in WoTR. I already completed Kingmaker in Unfair.

Enemies like to cast it on you here and there. I hope Freedom of Movement protects from it as you are now permanently stuck inside...

 

[ArchAngel]

So can anybody briefly summurize the best changes/new stuff during the past 2-3 patches?

Well, they broke mounted combat in multiple ways.

• A mount and a rider's charge attack commands didn't "know" about each other, and interacted weirdly - fixed;

Hell, finally!

No mention about mounted AoOs interrupting iterative attack chain though
That bug is pretty nasty also.

Fingers crossed. It looks like a good list of fixes though and they sometimes fix things without documenting it in the patch notes... (This in no way suggests that they've fixed it or even that the fixes documented actually work in the real world.)

Well, what do you know. It appears they fixed that attack chain interrupt too!
YAY!

Back in business!


Half of the Pair amulet still doesn't work with mounts. Oh well, that's a minor nitpick now.

Not many things work on mounts. Like that irritating Queen's item (that turns itself off all the time) that gives everyone aura that ignores Cold Iron and Good DR requirements. My mounts still do less damage all the time...

But what irritates me more is that in battles with allies that are not part of your party vs enemies your AoE buffs don't work on those allies. Things like Prayer, Bless, Haste do nothing for them...

 

[Haplo]

I think Covenant works... but for their first/main attack only - therefore bite for most. In case of smilodons its 1 x Bite vs 4 x Claws that don't get the bonus.

 

[Yosharian]

Finally. I can make my Azata Cryomancer!!!

So what - the save to get out of Icy Prison depends solely on the caster level? So it is 35 max, and no more?

Are you sure you can keep serious enemies in the prison on Hard+ ?

Not truth. Spell specialization can bring it to 37 and the save is not a fortitude save. Is a STRENGTH save. So, if you have +30 STR, you have +10 for STR checks. Here is a guy complaining that the spell is OP in kingmaker https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/3159763879070543897/

Note that you can ignore cold immunity in this game and that certain MP allow you to reach much higher caster level.

EDIT: Now I will try Unfair in WoTR. I already completed Kingmaker in Unfair.

Just use dispel magic

Also 37 DC? Weak

 

[Grunker]

I am playing on *exactly* core difficulty.

 

[Yosharian]

What do you mean 'no'? If you have defeated the enemy but are stuck with Icy Prison on you, just dispel it?

You can get at least 40-43 DC on Icy Prison without too much effort.

 

[Jaedar]

I am playing on *exactly* core difficulty.

Yeah, I've been thinking about upping it now in act5, because my mc is untouchable and dishing out 1000+ damage per turn. At the same time, I don't think it would increase the challenge, just add tedium. I hit the level cap long ago, and essentially got all the best in slot items.

I had a hard time winning on core in act 2 though.

 

[Yosharian]

Oh I see you meant 37 DC on the STR save thingy. My bad.

Well, in WOTR that part will get even more insane, then.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Amazingly, that reading is especially hard for table toppers. Who, presumably, use books instead of screen blurbs.

 

[Delterius]

 

[ArchAngel]

Bolster, empower + maximize? And Crit on a roll?

 

[Delterius]

Bolster, empower + maximize? And Crit on a roll?

plus the newly fixed x4 trickster crit

 

[ArchAngel]

Bolster, empower + maximize? And Crit on a roll?

plus the newly fixed x4 trickster crit

Technically you can do the same with one Energy Drain that crits using that Mastermind Rod that gives both empower and maximise. 12 x2 negative levels.
But as I learned my with my Necro Lich most enemies that these spells could be useful against are immune to both that and ability drain/damage. In the end you just take Mythic ability that lets you ignore Negative energy immunity and just do direct damage with all your Necro or Lich spells that do negative energy.

 

[Delterius]

Bolster, empower + maximize? And Crit on a roll?

plus the newly fixed x4 trickster crit

Technically you can do the same with one Energy Drain that crits using that Mastermind Rod that gives both empower and maximise. 12 x2 negative levels.
But as I learned my with my Necro Lich most enemies that these spells could be useful against are immune to both that and ability drain/damage. In the end you just take Mythic ability that lets you ignore Negative energy immunity and just do direct damage with all your Necro or Lich spells that do negative energy.

no because in that case it would be 48 levels as in [8+4] x 4

 

[Yosharian]

Give me a fucking break I am currently suffering from a fever and muscle aches from COVID, I don't have the energy to read Victor's posts properly

 

[Yosharian]