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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

razvedchiki

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is rupture restraints usefull for a tank? it will allow you to dump wisdom which i always pump on tanks for the will saves. the only bad thing about it is the 3 uses per day.

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they added a survey where you pick which archetype you think is weak, which is nonsense because even if you played 24/7 the game you cant possibly accurately gauge which is good/weak with all the myriad mythic paths etc.
 
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Nikanuur

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Does anyone know how to stop the game from creating a potion during the camping? I mean, once I've selected a potion, I can only change it to different one. Can't seem to cancel the potion creating altogether. I *have* to create a potion during the camping or change the character to one that doesn't meet the requirement. But that is not good, because other characters don't have that much skill for cooking. Wtf :D
Can't you just deselect the people in the cooking slot? I wouldn't know tbh I never cook anything.

Yeah, just reassign your guy. The potion doesn't make itself. ;)
But as noted, that's not a solution when other members are not that good for the cooking. There is no option to unclick the potion, no doubleclick to remove the potion, no button remove potion, etc. I am flamberghasted.

What are you talking about? Just leave the task empty.
The potion creating is tied to cooking, so it can't be cancelled unless one cancels the cooking as well. If the character slot is freed altogether, posted by another character, then changed back to the appropriate cooker/alchemist, the potion slot gets occupied by itself again. So you can palm-face me as much as you want, but you don't know how to properly clear the potion slot either, or do you?

Edit: One sleep without a person in the cooking / alchemy slot finally emptied the potion slot. But that's a bothersome workaround. One would need to sleep always one more time should they want to cancel the potion creating. There is no "empty the potion slot" button, like a cross or doubleclick to make the slot empty or anything. Meh :(
 
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Humbaba

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Another character can use +2 Cha tome. Any companion can use it.
A +2 bonus translates to a +1 modifier on any given stat. By the time you get that tome you will have found +4 circlets, belts etc. Whether you yourself are gonna use it or not, that very slim increase is not great and not worth suffering through an optional overtuned encounter. Also, you should give it to your PC anyway, seeing as you're gonna import him for the DLC campaign and we don't know which companions will return, if any.

is rupture restraints usefull for a tank? it will allow you to dump wisdom which i always pump on tanks for the will saves. the only bad thing about it is the 3 uses per day.

Not really tbh. It scales badly. 3 times a day (i.e per rest) is gonna be burned after just one encounter including any sort of high level wizard and for many conditions there are spells that make you immune. Unstoppable scales a lot more evenly and is permanent at least.
 

ArchAngel

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Another character can use +2 Cha tome. Any companion can use it.
A +2 bonus translates to a +1 modifier on any given stat. By the time you get that tome you will have found +4 circlets, belts etc. Whether you yourself are gonna use it or not, that very slim increase is not great and not worth suffering through an optional overtuned encounter. Also, you should give it to your PC anyway, seeing as you're gonna import him for the DLC campaign and we don't know which companions will return, if any.

is rupture restraints usefull for a tank? it will allow you to dump wisdom which i always pump on tanks for the will saves. the only bad thing about it is the 3 uses per day.

Not really tbh. It scales badly. 3 times a day (i.e per rest) is gonna be burned after just one encounter including any sort of high level wizard and for many conditions there are spells that make you immune. Unstoppable scales a lot more evenly and is permanent at least.
Tomes give inherent bonus to stats that stack with bonuses you get from circlets and headbands. And that +1 DC is worth a lot depending on what is the current enemy chance to save. If that will bring it down from 10% to 5% (19 to 20 on a d20 roll) that is a huge boost.
 

LannTheStupid

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Every optional encounter is additional EXP and additional game content. It is already there, and it has been already paid for.

If the player likes the game, then why skip parts of it? And if the player wants to skip the game content, then why s/he is playing the game?
 

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Tomes give inherent bonus to stats that stack with bonuses you get from circlets and headbands. And that +1 DC is worth a lot depending on what is the current enemy chance to save. If that will bring it down from 10% to 5% (19 to 20 on a d20 roll) that is a huge boost.

I know they stack but the increase remains minimal relative to the time and effort in order to get that +1 bonus, when you can get much larger bonuses much easier. If you got that +1 earlier it would be much better but if let's say you get a +8 from your CHA score then that +1 is only an increase of 1/8th, whereas early game it might be 1/4th or more. Percentage wise you're right, it makes the difference between 10% and 5% but this is a dice game where chances only move within increments, meaning evaluating chances in percentages is misleading. Your chances double, but they're still slim and will not make much of a difference.

Every optional encounter is additional EXP and additional game content. It is already there, and it has been already paid for.

If the player likes the game, then why skip parts of it? And if the player wants to skip the game content, then why s/he is playing the game?
Have you ever considered that there are parts in a game that certain players might not find entertaining?
 
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Anyway

Turns out not that many demons are immune to fear. It might only be Balors, Vavakias and Gallus. However running after scared enemies may bait you into other encounters and it makes archers retreat to a safe distance from where they will continue to snipe you. In short, fear is not great in open areas but pretty good in small rooms (of which there aren't too many) because then enemies will just run to the nearest corner and let themselves be hacked to death.
 

ArchAngel

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Anyway

Turns out not that many demons are immune to fear. It might only be Balors, Vavakias and Gallus. However running after scared enemies may bait you into other encounters and it makes archers retreat to a safe distance from where they will continue to snipe you. In short, fear is not great in open areas but pretty good in small rooms (of which there aren't too many) because then enemies will just run to the nearest corner and let themselves be hacked to death.
Fear is not good but shaken status is.
 

LannTheStupid

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Frankly, I have never understood this Western approach to gaming.

Why are you talking about hours per something? Do you have some KPI in mind? Are you increasing the return on time investment? Are you... well... working?!

Gaming is leisure time. Leisure time is something people (or at least people I consider "normal") enjoy. There is no goal in leisure, there is the process. If you like the process you are in it. If you don't like the process you change it to something else. Do Westerners quantify the amount of joy per hour they experience in, say, The Louvre? Or on some Caribbean beach?
 

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Since so many 'dexers say that Pathfinder - Wrath of the Righteous is GotY I decided to give it a try after all.

Holy crap, I must say it surprised me immensely. The writing is so extremely trash and cringe I can't believe anybody would enjoy it.

People who say it's GotY or decent game at all must be trolling, I can't explain it otherwise...

But I see this thread is so long, what the fuck is wrong with you, people?
 

Dishonoredbr

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Since so many 'dexers say that Pathfinder - Wrath of the Righteous is GotY I decided to give it a try after all.

Holy crap, I must say it surprised me immensely. The writing is so extremely trash and cringe I can't believe anybody would enjoy it.

People who say it's GotY or decent game at all must be trolling, I can't explain it otherwise...

But I see this thread is so long, what the fuck is wrong with you, people?

It's fun to play and there's literaly no other RPG that was good released in 2021.
 

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Since so many 'dexers say that Pathfinder - Wrath of the Righteous is GotY I decided to give it a try after all.

Holy crap, I must say it surprised me immensely. The writing is so extremely trash and cringe I can't believe anybody would enjoy it.

People who say it's GotY or decent game at all must be trolling, I can't explain it otherwise...

But I see this thread is so long, what the fuck is wrong with you, people?

It's fun to play and there's literaly no other RPG that was good released in 2021.
Archolos.
 

Humbaba

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Since so many 'dexers say that Pathfinder - Wrath of the Righteous is GotY I decided to give it a try after all.

Holy crap, I must say it surprised me immensely. The writing is so extremely trash and cringe I can't believe anybody would enjoy it.

People who say it's GotY or decent game at all must be trolling, I can't explain it otherwise...

But I see this thread is so long, what the fuck is wrong with you, people?
Everything else is incline though. Except maybe the puzzles but apparently some people like those.
 

ArchAngel

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Since so many 'dexers say that Pathfinder - Wrath of the Righteous is GotY I decided to give it a try after all.

Holy crap, I must say it surprised me immensely. The writing is so extremely trash and cringe I can't believe anybody would enjoy it.

People who say it's GotY or decent game at all must be trolling, I can't explain it otherwise...

But I see this thread is so long, what the fuck is wrong with you, people?
We are not storyfags like you. You must be one of those fags that played Disco Elysium.
 

LannTheStupid

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The interesting thing is - if asked about "where the good writing is" the literary critics send me to some obscure mods of some old games. I am sure that those things have much more fan fiction in them then any officially released game. That might good for the people who like such things, but comparing edited and published texts with fan fiction is dumb.
i swear to god if they don't add a trickster top hat i won't do anything and will still play the game
I like them to add a proper Swarm model.
 

Fedora Master

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Its obvious Owlcat bit off more than they could chew this time. There are still so many bugged class mechanics its just silly.
Honestly, they could remove most of the weird hybrids and half casters and save themselves a ton of effort. Nobody needs Arcanists or Shamans or Warpriests.
 

Rinslin Merwind

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I guess the game will be playable with 1.2 if it ever comes out.
I wanted to play it much closer to release, but then I noticed how Meredoth suffered from bug on Ice cage spell.
Later this bug was fixed (I think), but numerous other people started to share bugs and other problems.
In the end I decided to wait until 3.0 and start of new game development. This way at least you can be sure devs will not introduce new bugs in code, while breaking mods which trying to fix bugs in previous versions.
 

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