Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Shaki]

The game could have used another year in the oven to work all of these issues out.

It would have not helped. They do not have resources to emulate the testing of the whole player base.

So the alternative is: have a polished visual novel or have a buggy grand scale CRPG. I know what I prefer.

I mean, shitload of bugs that still exist in the game, were reported ~year ago. There were bugs I personally reported in first alpha, that are still there.

Devs like to use the excuse of "it's simply impossible to find all of the bugs before the release", but the fact is, players just got used to being betatesters, so devs feel comfortable with early releases, knowing that their game is in a bad state and consciously pushing pages of known bugs to be fixed after release, because they want the $$$ as soon as possible.

 

[Saark]

Got this dialogue that had me make two will checks, where the first one was d20 + 13 skill value and the second d20 + 11 skill value. What is this number derived from?

If it was the Shamira Will-Checks against her trying to pry the information about Nahyndrian Crystals from your memory, that is intentional.
Throughout the conversation, she starts casting mind-affecting spells on you as you pass the checks, including a nasty -10 Will Saves mindfog for the last one. You can typically fail one of them and have the Hand of the Inheritor help you out, or if your saves/spellresist is high enough, you can resist all of them by yourself.

 

[ArchAngel]

Are the DC saves for diseases bugged? Every disease so far has a 32 or more DC which means I can’t even dispel them with high caster level remove disease spell.

Heal spell removes diseases without a check.

 

[Whisper]

• Unfair difficulty had unplanned additional improvements to enemy stats - fixed;

They nerfed Unfair difficulty?

 

[Whisper]

Oh. I thought +20 attax in tutorial was just as planned.
But I guess it was tricky for vivimonksaints when they get slain by one hit by chapter 1 enemies with more than 30 ab.

Whilst I am not generally in favor of artificially inflating stats as a method of increasing difficulty, considering how bad the enemy AI was, it was pretty much all they had. The current state of unfair post adjustment is just depressing.

Why nerf hardest difficulty. Is it not supposed to be hard?

 

[Sharpedge]

Oh. I thought +20 attax in tutorial was just as planned.
But I guess it was tricky for vivimonksaints when they get slain by one hit by chapter 1 enemies with more than 30 ab.

Whilst I am not generally in favor of artificially inflating stats as a method of increasing difficulty, considering how bad the enemy AI was, it was pretty much all they had. The current state of unfair post adjustment is just depressing.

Why nerf hardest difficulty. Is it not supposed to be hard?

I agree with you. My point was more, "it would be better if they had significantly better AI rather than just high stats." The stats post nerf on unfair are just depressing though. It was possible to beat it before and now any group that was able to beat it before, can faceroll it now.

 

[Shadenuat]

They are just making my larp builds viable guys. No worries.

 

[Alienman]

I'm surprised the game turned out this buggy considering they had the engine made and everything. Did they for some reason rebuild the thing from scratch? Sure feels like a first release.

 

[Volourn]

"Good luck with that. WIthout companions you got nobody on your council and you don't get any options for decisions except what the default councilor suggests. This is a huge problem compared to Kingmaker where you could make custom companions to replace standard ones as the councilors.
Also Greybor is awesome but I guess no got no clue how to make good characters. I hope you enchanted his weapons, cast Heroism, gave him Haste and used his Slayer Mark. Also I hope you took Mythic feat that removes two weapon fighting penalty, that is straight +2 bonus to attack that is always on"

*SHRUG* Choices and consequences.


I never use the NPCs except to do their quests, so he only has his wussy basic equipment. I have created characters. Sure, I boosted his shitty stats with spells, but he still sucked. he need 16+ to hit the dragon yet never did. What an embarrassment of a dwarf. Has a decent 'vibe' as an edgy hunter, but can't back it up in actual combat. FAIL.

 

[Efe]

theres a xanthir's experiements card on crusade. you sure you didnt run it?

i have it on auto. are you even supposed to be able to take the swarm path if you didn't take the queen corpse with you in the beginning?

that convo happens because of that crusade event
your kingdom on auto completed that, that why you see it.

 

[smaug]

Can you attack with touch AC using a melee oriented attack? Enemies are starting to get very high AC and even with 35STR I can’t hit them most of the time.

 

[CodexTotalWar]

The final ones:
1. Re-introduce companions unique to various Paths which were obviously cut out somewhere during the development (Nurah for Trickster, Terendelev for Aeon, Galfrey for Angel etc.).
2. Add more portraits, and non-monks this time, please.

Thank you for your time.

I got Galfrey as a companion for the final dungeon of the game in my Angel/Pally run. I don't know if it was triggered by the Mythic Path or the romance though (the NPC description implies the latter).

Spoiler

 

[PrK]

Is the arena supposed to be Wrath's Undersigil? Because I can keep killing Balors for exp. I was close to a levelup anyway so took advantage of that, now to make a small detour to teach that Playful Shit a lesson..

 

[Delterius]

2. Blend the Trickster and Azata paths into a single

how dare you

 

[LannTheStupid]

I never use the NPCs except to do their quests, so he only has his wussy basic equipment.

See, this is the strength of Owlcat Games design. You can miss out on some parts of content and still continue playing.

 

[Volourn]

Dude. You think that's original. You can do that way back in the FO/BG series. FFS You can also do this in FF. LMAO

 

[ga♥]

I'm surprised the game turned out this buggy considering they had the engine made and everything. Did they for some reason rebuild the thing from scratch? Sure feels like a first release.

They probably spent 90% of the time to implement the useless and confusing rotating camera (can someone understand the map with the fuggin camera) and turd based mod. 10% the game proper.

 

[Cryomancer]

2. Blend the Trickster and Azata paths into a single

how dare you

What is the problem? One is ancap, another is cosmic ancap; Both can be easily merged. Is like the devil and aeon. Both are rule lawyers.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Dude. You think that's original. You can do that way back in the FO/BG series. FFS You can also do this in FF. LMAO

Yes, there is more than one way to not play a game. No need for AAAB-ing and YYZ-ing.

 

[Shaki]

I'm surprised the game turned out this buggy considering they had the engine made and everything. Did they for some reason rebuild the thing from scratch? Sure feels like a first release.

They probably spent 90% of the time to implement the useless and confusing rotating camera (can someone understand the map with the fuggin camera) and turd based mod. 10% the game proper.

Agreed, rotating camera was a mistake, and randomly slapping turn-based mode on a game designed and balanced for RTwP, also is a waste of dev time, this is something they should leave for modders to toy with.

I strongly prefer TB over RtWP, but trying to make your game to be both simultaneously, is stupid. Would rather just have polished RTwP than two modes full of bugs.

 

[Delterius]

2. Blend the Trickster and Azata paths into a single

how dare you

What is the problem? One is ancap, another is cosmic ancap; Both can be easily merged. Is like the devil and aeon. Both are rule lawyers.

Azata is anime protagonist and Trickster is internet shitposter. Ancap/Libertarianism is pro child porn so its actually the Demon/CE path.

 

[BrotherFrank]

Trickster decisions are typically too cruel or malicious by azata standards though.

I can agree trickster path is lacking but tacking it onto azatas ain’t the solution.

 

[gurugeorge]

I'm surprised the game turned out this buggy considering they had the engine made and everything. Did they for some reason rebuild the thing from scratch? Sure feels like a first release.

They probably spent 90% of the time to implement the useless and confusing rotating camera (can someone understand the map with the fuggin camera) and turd based mod. 10% the game proper.

Agreed, rotating camera was a mistake, and randomly slapping turn-based mode on a game designed and balanced for RTwP, also is a waste of dev time, this is something they should leave for modders to toy with.

I strongly prefer TB over RtWP, but trying to make your game to be both simultaneously, is stupid. Would rather just have polished RTwP than two modes full of bugs.

ITT, isometritards can't get their heads around rotating cameras and agree that they're A Very Bad Thing

 

[Rusty Eyes]

Kitsune is a surprisingly good choice for a Druid. A free bite attack, which stacks when shapeshifted. Dip into Serpent Sorcerer, and you get another one. So your Wolf form gets 3 bite attacks with trips at level 4.

 

[smaug]

How do you make ember good? Her hexes are resisted de facto by the base wisdom stat of every monster now and I gave her ascended element and she still does barely any damage.