PCGamer.uk crowns "best RPG combat ever", gives 94

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

-Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

Modders will fix it however. Oh yes, and how they will

 

[santino27]

-Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

Modders will fix it however. Oh yes, and how they will

No doubt... while adding an even more convoluted tortured emo character background than Gaider has likely already given them. Because it's just not a bioware mod if someone doesn't add the ability to romance your sister!

 

[Stainless Veteran]

-Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

Aww, yeah, that's just mean! Why are they an exception? C'mon, Bioware, make us a true RPG!

This will sell like hotcakes!

 

[Freelance Henchman]

Meh, movies did it first.

 

[20 Eyes]

94/100 is the new 4/10.

Any huge title is going to get at least a 90, so the fact that Bioware fell on the lower-half of the scale they were given is actually pretty embarrassing.

 

[Begriffenfeldt]

Pretty srange that they're reviewing this game upwards of a month before it's released as well. I wonder how they pulled that off.

BEST GAME EVARR! PREORDER NOOWOWO!!

Yeah, I wonder.

 

[Jools]

94/100 is the new 4/10.

Any huge title is going to get at least a 90, so the fact that Bioware fell on the lower-half of the scale they were given is actually pretty embarrassing.

Valid point, actually.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

- Felt a little let down at first by lack of escape from the city but in the end found benefits to knowing the city backwards, allowed him to get a complete grasp on the games "complicated political system"

Yeah, lack of escape from the city definitely should knock a few points off the score

 

[J_C]

Guys, guys! The editor of PC Gamer just called me. They say that they are sorry, but the number in the score got mixed up. It's 49, and not 94!

Well that's a relief, I almost thought that this game really gets 94/100.

 

[Merkwürdigliebe]

-Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

Modders will fix it however. Oh yes, and how they will

I was going to make a comment akin to "In before incest mod" however it would seem you beat me to it. In my visits to the Bioware boards brief as they were I managed to at least some what comprehend the depravity of their player base. Really such a mod is only to expect, especially since the players seem more concerned with the shitty dating sim part of the game rather than any actually RPG mehcanics of it.

 

[Cassidy]

-Romantic options unconstrained, you meet a party member chances are you can "bone" them. his words not mine. Your siblings being the obvious exceptions.

Modders will fix it however. Oh yes, and how they will

I was going to make a comment akin to "In before incest mod" however it would seem you beat me to it. In my visits to the Bioware boards brief as they were I managed to at least some what comprehend the depravity of their player base. Really such a mod is only to expect, especially since the players seem more concerned with the shitty dating sim part of the game rather than any actually RPG mehcanics of it.

But this shit won't ever have a tasteful rape mod. Ever.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I eagerly wait to participate in one of the 30 DA threads that will be on the front page once DA2 comes out.

 

[treave]

I predict Codex will be pleasantly surprised by the choices and consequences present in the game and hail it the best action-RPG since Risen.

Anyway, what's this about complicated political interactions? Are there multiple factions we can work for and double-cross? I don't recall any press releases focusing on anything of the sort, they seem to be more keen to promote their "pushing buttons are the awesome" combat and "lol the story's being told ala Alpha Protocol" features.

 

[BeholderX]

Anyway, what's this about complicated political interactions? Are there multiple factions we can work for and double-cross? I don't recall any press releases focusing on anything of the sort, they seem to be more keen to promote their "pushing buttons are the awesome" combat and "lol the story's being told ala Alpha Protocol" features.

As you said, nothing has been stated about political choices yet, anywhere, by anybody. So obviously there's gonna be a complicated and intricate political system the likes of which have never been seen before.

 

[SkeleTony]

Crap. One of my real life friends(well...I know him. he is a close friend's best friend), Alex is one of the big wig game journalists and also totally clueless about real RPGs. I wonder if he wrote that shit above?!

I hope not.

 

[chzr]

wrong forum

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

I predict Codex will be pleasantly surprised by the choices and consequences present in the game and hail it the best action-RPG since Risen.

Since Risen? You seem to forget that Risen and DA1 came out the same year and Codex voted DA as RPG of the Year. Not to mention Knights of the Chalice came out that year too.

If that isn't an amazingly clear example of the decline, I don't know what is.

 

[Jaesun]

SO spamming the A button is now considered "best combat ever"?

 

[treave]

As you said, nothing has been stated about political choices yet, anywhere, by anybody. So obviously there's gonna be a complicated and intricate political system the likes of which have never been seen before.

Thus it's a bit confusing when a reviewer mentions:

Felt a little let down at first by lack of escape from the city but in the end found benefits to knowing the city backwards, allowed him to get a complete grasp on the games "complicated political system"

That came out of nowhere for me, so I was wondering if I missed any press releases that talked about Kirkwall politics.

Since Risen? You seem to forget that Risen and DA1 came out the same year and Codex voted DA as RPG of the Year. Not to mention Knights of the Chalice came out that year too.

If that isn't an amazingly clear example of the decline, I don't know what is.

Action RPG. *shrug* But hey, can't expect the 'Dex to play games that can't be easily found on torrent servers. Heh.

 

[Nael]

I predict Codex will be pleasantly surprised by the choices and consequences present in the game and hail it the best action-RPG since Risen.

Since Risen? You seem to forget that Risen and DA1 came out the same year and Codex voted DA as RPG of the Year. Not to mention Knights of the Chalice came out that year too.

If that isn't an amazingly clear example of the decline, I don't know what is.

Decline has been with us a long time. Get used to it.

 

[BeholderX]

That came out of nowhere for me, so I was wondering if I missed any press releases that talked about Kirkwall politics.

Supposedly there's a war between the mages and the templars, and you can give the crown of the city to one of the two leaders in an end game decision. Wouldn't really call that a political system though.

 

[Coyote]

I predict Codex will be pleasantly surprised by the choices and consequences present in the game and hail it the best action-RPG since Risen.

Since Risen? You seem to forget that Risen and DA1 came out the same year and Codex voted DA as RPG of the Year. Not to mention Knights of the Chalice came out that year too.

If that isn't an amazingly clear example of the decline, I don't know what is.

To be fair, "best game" sorts of polls are pretty much universally bullshit, because a game that is more well-known/available will always have an unfair advantage. (Same goes for pretty much any sort of entertainment, really.) If someone's played decent game X and not great game Y and opts to vote anyway, they'll probably vote for X no matter how good they've heard Y is. I remember one gaming website I used to visit had a poll every year where the latest Final Fantasy almost always won over games that were commonly acknowledged among members to be better simply because more people had played them. (At least that's how I interpreted the results; the margins were generally very close even for much less well-known games.) And I'd wager that even here many more people played DA than the other two. Of course, that itself could be considered an example of the decline, but what do you expect when there's a ~23:3:1 ratio of news posts about the three?

Those numbers based on current news listings, BTW, so some posts may be more recent, but the point is that exposure makes a big difference. There are a couple of games that have maybe 1-3 threads about them - Telepath RPG, Frayed Knights, etc. - while there's a deluge of threads about DA2, Skyrim, TW2, etc. If I miss those 1-3 threads, then I won't even know about those games, let alone vote for them.

Would be interesting to see the results of a game of the year poll that asked people to identify what games on the list they had actually played. It still wouldn't be anywhere near a well-designed poll, but it would at least do a better job of gauging who was voting just to boost a game they liked rather than because they had actually played several games on the list and liked it best.

 

[Volourn]

That wouldn't work either 'cause it wouldn't include those who chose not o play certain games because they felt they were a waste of their time.

An example is I haven't bothered with FO:NV because it's FO3.5 and made by the same dinks who made Alpha Fail... yet FO:LV is well liked by those who disliked FO3 and/or AF.

Should we discount the votes of those actual Codexers who chose not to buy DA because they hate BIO and actually mean it but have judged DA is shitty just ebcause as well?

Your idea is full of flaws.

 

[Mastermind]

DOING SOMETHING IN A GAME MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT IN REALITY TOO

When it comes to sex, yeah, pretty much. Haven't spent much time perusing bioware forums, have you?

Really, if you believe that there's anyone out there who does not have access to any erotic content he wishes merely by putting "porn" or "naked women" into google, you're stupid.

What the fuck does this have to do with what I just said? You can go out and murder hobos too, does that mean Postal should be rated E for everyone? The only thing stupid here are idiots who think that because you can't stop something, you shouldn't even try. Imagine if the justice system was built around this type of inanity. People still murder each other, so we might as well make it legal (actually I can see the appeal to that ). People still steal so let's make it legal too. Legalize rape, assault, slander, etc. They're all easily accessible to anyone inclined to do it. You just get tossed to prison afterwards.

Which means that it's also stupid to censor sex from games for the reasons you mentioned.

Sex isn't censored from games. You can have all the sex you want, you'll simply end up getting a rating according to, in part, the sexual content.

 

[Shannow]

I predict Codex will be pleasantly surprised by the choices and consequences present in the game and hail it the best action-RPG since Risen.

Since Risen? You seem to forget that Risen and DA1 came out the same year and Codex voted DA as RPG of the Year. Not to mention Knights of the Chalice came out that year too.

If that isn't an amazingly clear example of the decline, I don't know what is.

Best aRPG since Risen, best RPG since DAO, best tb-RPG since KotC, best graphix since RL, best story since Torment, best faction system since NV/G3, best c&c since Arcanum, best shootan since CoD/MoH/ME2/Doom, best character system since FO, most emotionally engaging since FF7, most hated since Oblivion. Clearly the codex can't make up its mind in deciding just how awesome DA2 is gonna be. Thankfully we have journalists to put it inro words for us. In wise foresight they even reserved the scores of 95-100 for the sequels.