Its fans served only to initially fund at zero-risks (for him) his project and nothing more. The survey showed clearly that there was no interest (and how could it be otherwise?) in consoles and controllers gui and guess what? You already know the answer. And, on top of this, add the Epic sheaningan and draw the inevitable conclusions.
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KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop
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Sorry guys, but you are really naive.
1- Gollop makes the real Ufo remake, very deep game with lots of micromanagement, high difficulty and a tough learning curve > total of 100 copies sold, half of them to rpgcodex users, commercial failure, the dev team go bankrupt and close.
2- Gollop makes Phoenix point, similar to the critically acclaimed Xcom 2, console-friendly and with a banal action trailer > thousands of copies sold, he can keep making games and money.
Why he should take the 1st route? It's not like he live and eat with rpgcodex opinions.
1- Gollop makes the real Ufo remake, very deep game with lots of micromanagement, high difficulty and a tough learning curve > total of 100 copies sold, half of them to rpgcodex users, commercial failure, the dev team go bankrupt and close.
2- Gollop makes Phoenix point, similar to the critically acclaimed Xcom 2, console-friendly and with a banal action trailer > thousands of copies sold, he can keep making games and money.
Why he should take the 1st route? It's not like he live and eat with rpgcodex opinions.
In that case, go with your own funds and don't ask for old fans financial support, only to betray them.
Trans-Financial-Man
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Fine. Maybe the game as it exists now makes more money. ( I am trying very hard to keep a straight face whilst I type that.)
But it's not the game backers like me were promised. No matter what else is right or wrong about the game, backers were lied to and then told by Gollop himself that our money isn't wanted anymore. Gollop and co are entitled to make whatever games they wish. But don't ask for money to do one thing and then do another. Because that's coming dangerously close to what a scam looks like.
Trans-Financial-Man
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They just gave up on base building. This looks pathetic. JPEGS to represent base rooms. It's a downgrade from OG X-Com and somehow looks more casualised than Friaxis XCom games.
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True. My idea is that he wanted to do classic style first but he faced the market rules during development, and embraced them.
NuXCom latin motto is "Vigilo Confido", Phoenix Point one's "parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus".
Sure, because Gollop at the time of the Fig crowdfunding was a green developer with no prior experience about market dynamics or turn-based games.
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flyingjohn
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Oh look, a epic exclusive also financed by Microsoft looking like a cheap cash grab.
Reminds me of another mediocre boring rpg that was released recently,i wonder if there is a connection?
Reminds me of another mediocre boring rpg that was released recently,i wonder if there is a connection?
I essentially stopped following this completely and tried to get my money back but the process was complicated and didn't work and so I gave up on this shit.
Now I have an Epic key I don't want. Do I still get a steam key one year down the line? Or do I actually need to activate the epic key in order to get the game on steam? Could I just sell it or give it away to someone and still get the steam key?
Now I have an Epic key I don't want. Do I still get a steam key one year down the line? Or do I actually need to activate the epic key in order to get the game on steam? Could I just sell it or give it away to someone and still get the steam key?
Yes, or a GOG one.
No, they are independent from each other.
Yes.
https://forums.snapshotgames.com/t/...are-offering-to-backers-of-phoenix-point/3083
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Did you already forget Fort Triumph?
Iluvcheezcake
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I guess we will know in 2 days 
Too late, dude, sorry.
I haven't been closely following, what are people so mad about these days? Am I correct in saying that 90% of this shitstorm started once they went exclusively Epic for the first year? What gameplay decisions are people raging about? The only thing I remember which kinda put me off the game is that monster/alien design became increasingly boring. I'll pirate it though since mr. Epic paid for my copy anyway.
Iluvcheezcake
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It all stems from the figstarter promises that were changed later. Game was presented as PC only but soon came controller and console support, etc. Epic deal was just like throwing a grenade into a brimming outhouse.
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