Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[BEvers]

If there ever is a PoE3, a new race of caudate cuties seems highly probable. They need to win that audience back.

 

[pomenitul]

Neeshka > all PoE companions combined. Fight me. Tiefling waifu is OP as evidenced by Planetscape Torrent, Patchfinder Kangzmaker and NWN2. It's the tail, I think.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Deadfire companions are superior in every way imaginable. In the first game they're all either dull and uninteresting or ridiculous beyond any suspension of disbelief. They're all on some important quests of their own and yet spend their days standing around on the crossroads waiting for the player to show up. It's either generic and imaginative or try-hard and edgy, sometimes all those things at the same time. The only two that ever felt like they even belong in the setting were Eder and Devil of Caroc.

Deadfire cast is all well integrated into the setting. You meet them in a way that makes sense, they join you for reasons that are believable, they're all characters that could conceivably exist in that world. The only problem I've really had with companion content is that there wasn't enough of it. That and Tekehu "Nice to meet you let's have buttsex".

 

[pomenitul]

I felt the other way around, Maia was a weak character but her quest (altough I agree it didn't hit any emotional notes) had insanely good reactivity and put into perspective how cutthroat the Rauatai were.

Agreed on the reactivity. Still not memorable enough in my book but your mileage may vary.

 

[2house2fly]

Ehm. POE1 companions were not ?

furry druid
chick eskimo who fucks dogs
insane dude
bipolar wussy elf
chick who wasn't there

and Eder.

Whole POE1 cast was circus on wheels much more than any infinity cast was aside from Eder which was simply bad companion with no opinion on his own on anything of value.

Pillars had a lot more jokey stuff than people seem to remember. The kid that tells you a secret and you can respond with "great secret, your dad doesn't love you". Or Hiravias wondering whether Pallegina has a cloaca, or when Iovara tells you the gods aren't real if you picked Philosopher background you can say "I knew it!"

Ultimately yeah, mileage is going to vary with what you want from companions- someone said "they talk too much, less is more" but then a common complaint about companions in these games is that they don't talk enough. Deadfire is too wacky, Pillars was too dry. They're never going to please everyone, which is why they shouldn't have tried and should have done what they wanted to do

 

[AwesomeButton]

Everybody is cutthroat.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Ultimately yeah, mileage is going to vary with what you want from companions- someone said "they talk too much, less is more" but then a common complaint about companions in these games is that they don't talk enough.

I said that.

And people who complain that their companions don't talk more are prevalently retards. The same people say that a movie is better than a book, because you get to see the characters and places.

 

[Orma]

Tekehu "Nice to meet you let's have buttsex".

If you can see past that (most of which is easily avoidable by romancing someone else), Tekehu is a really good character overall.

 

[2house2fly]

It's kind of neat when it becomes clear his ott behaviour is basically him buckling under the pressure of having a great destiny and acting out

 

[AwesomeButton]

My emotional response was to completely disregard and ignore him. I've never taken him in the party.

 

[pomenitul]

He's nowhere near as one-dimensional as he initially appears.

 

[2house2fly]

He's got some very useful spells as well- foe-only versions of some regular druid spells and some unique to him. Of course i multiclassed him and mostly used him for the AOE paralyse chant

 

[Theldaran]

Cernd... Well, he had few content, and it made him look like a moron. He has some self-derisive content where his devotion to Nature is made fun of. He was still a valid companion for some parties, which are very few.

Between Cernd and Valygar I'm hard pressed to choose who's more dull. Seems like they couldn't write tree huggers by then.

 

[pomenitul]

I frankly like Valygar's self-effacing, no-nonsense attitude. And backstabbing mages with Celestial Fury.

 

[AwesomeButton]

He's nowhere near as one-dimensional as he initially appears.

He's got some very useful spells as well- foe-only versions of some regular druid spells and some unique to him. Of course i multiclassed him and mostly used him for the AOE paralyse chant

I have distant plans to make another playthrough on Hard where I'll use my current vailian female wizard/chanter as a main character - "The Adventures of Laquisha in the Deadfire", then I'll take Tekehu, romance him and have black-on-fish sex.

 

[Theldaran]

Razor Coast CRPG when?

 

[2house2fly]

Yeah Ondra butting in was a weird choice. Can't say what they were thinking there

 

[Oreshnik Missile]

Deadfire cast is all well integrated into the setting.

That's why they were utterly banal. (not to mention being a bunch of homosexual anti-racist commiefornian self-inserts, we even got some tranny vibes from that Pallegina quest). The setting is absurdly bland. I can't imagine what sort of autism it takes to go to all the effort of writing an entire new setting, when such setting is so generic and uninventive. What's the point?

PoE1 had Durance and GM, sure they were tryhard and edgy and ridiculous, but I liked that, just as I liked them for being rehashes of characters from Planescape and KotoR2. None of the rest come close. Durance alone is worth more than the rest of the cast from both games.

 

[2house2fly]

None of them are homosexual and several of them are racist.

 

[Incendax]

It's kind of neat when it becomes clear his ott behaviour is basically him buckling under the pressure of having a great destiny and acting out

I had really mixed feelings. On the one hand, his blatant sexual advances and antics were definitely a cover up for a more complex and nuanced character. On the other hand, that complexity was still really juvenile. It’s hard for me, as a grumpy old bastard, to admire or respect even the most complex or nuanced teenager because they still have a looooong way to go to become mature.

But I generally enjoyed his writing.

 

[Theldaran]

POE is low-effort milking of past games.

 

[Fedora Master]

POE is low-effort milking of past games.

That's ALL OF MODERN GAMING.

 

[Modron]

That's ALL OF MODERN GAMING.

Wouldn't say that in this case it's a result of modern gaming, PoE is Icewind Dale 2 part 2 which in and of itself was already a milking of a series that was milking other successful games.

 

[fantadomat]

That's ALL OF MODERN GAMING.

Wouldn't say that in this case it's a result of modern gaming, PoE is Icewind Dale 2 part 2 which in and of itself was already a milking of a series that was milking other successful games.

You can't compare IWD2 to that pile of shit. IWD games at least have good combat system and interesting encounters. They don't have retarded shit like muh penetration tied to level and muh engagement.

 

[TT1]

So, I just finished The Forgotten Sanctum (and all dlcs and every content in the game) and there is no sign of this new spirit sidekick Ryona. What the hell happened? Its not in the game for sure.