Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Perkel]

More information about the new sidekick Ryona:

Spoiler

Darcozzi Paladin, can option to Paladin/ Fighter or Paladin/ Monk

Might: 19
Constitution: 15
Dexterity: 10
Perception: 11
Intellect: 15
Resolve: 8

She is a human spirit.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Justin Bell posted this on the Obsidian forums: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/105474-atmosphere-i-hope-justin-bell-reads-this/page-3

Just wanted to let you folks know that we're doing the following:

• Night music in all Neketaka districts except for dungeons and inns, and some wilderness areas. It will be two pieces of music, one for towns, one for wilderness areas
• Boss music for all boss encounters
• Reactive music turned off by default, but optionally turned on if you so wish.

Couple notes to set expectations. We will be re-purposing music from Pillars 1 for the music above. I know that this will likely disappoint some, but my current workload won't allow for anything more than this. That said, I really think it will make the difference you guys hope for and urge you to give it a chance!

We're aiming to have this in when Seeker, Slayer, Survivor launches, but like anything we do, I can't guarantee the timing because we need to test it first to make sure we can safely add it to the game. That said, it's looking good so far, and we hope to be able to do this for the 3.0 release. If not for that release, then one shortly thereafter.

 

[Safav Hamon]

These should be the new boss themes

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

So uhhh.. If I liked KOTOR 2 will I like this game?

I remember playing PoE 1 and getting bored shortly after the first main town... Also dropped Tyranny somewhere around act 3 due to boredom. I should prolly just pass on this game right?

 

[Jezal_k23]

Well. KOTOR 2 is not similar to Deadfire in any way, I don't think so. That said, this doesn't mean you won't like it. I have no idea really. I can only tell you it's totally different from KOTOR 2.

 

[J_C]

These should be the new boss themes

Easily one of the best tracks in Pillars 1. Overall the OST of the game was weaker than in the IE games IMO, but that track is up there with the best of the IE offering. Loved it everytime it started during a fight.

 

[Yosharian]

So uhhh.. If I liked KOTOR 2 will I like this game?

I remember playing PoE 1 and getting bored shortly after the first main town... Also dropped Tyranny somewhere around act 3 due to boredom. I should prolly just pass on this game right?

It's really nothing like KOTOR2.

It's much better than POE1 in my opinion, but opinions vary on that topic, so take that with a pinch of salt.

I think the game is worth picking up in a 'Game of the year' form, when it's on sale. Maybe 6 months to a year from now.

 

[FreeKaner]

The only remotely memorable and notable track from PoE is this;



Everything else is as generic as it gets.

 

[Parabalus]

I remember the inn music:



The stalwart village track is also lovely, felt very IWDish:



Did WM2 never get an OST? I seem to remember there were a few good new tracks there as well, don't have the game installed anymore to check.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Yeah, Stalwart theme was the tits.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Stalwart theme would be good for the night town music.

 

[Yosharian]

The only remotely memorable and notable track from PoE is this;



Everything else is as generic as it gets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJa_2Eg7OB4

This track is 'generic'?

What about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOoQtb2APBA

Also generic?

 

[Safav Hamon]

It's much better than POE1 in my opinion, but opinions vary on that topic, so take that with a pinch of salt.

Most people agree that Deadfire has much better gameplay. Where it gets divisive is over story and companions.

 

[FreeKaner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJa_2Eg7OB4

This track is 'generic'?

What about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOoQtb2APBA

Also generic?

The second one is excessively generic, the run-off-the-mill ominous female vocal chanting. The first one less so, but still generic "fable" tune.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

I like both OSTs lots of good stuff.. Title theme especially is really nice for both. Also stuff like this





idk y it gets so much hate here. then people praise twitcher 3 ost which is garbage over dramatic GoT music

 

[Abu Antar]

Pillars games have mixed soundtracks. Good mixed with bad.

 

[Lacrymas]

Stalwart had one super dissonant chord that I liked because you don't hear such dissonances in soundtracks usually, and he built up to it, but that's it. There's also the Tristan chord in the generic PoE1 wilderness music, but eh, that's more trivia than good music. Video game and movie soundtracks have the uncanny quality of not being very musical on their own, if at all.

 

[aweigh]

Serious question: why do western RPGs always go with generic "orchestral" scoring? I can't remember a single track of music from an RPG except for Mark Morgan's tunes in FO1 and FO2. Everything else is just generic film-type scoring that goes in one ear and out the other.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

Serious question: why do western RPGs always go with generic "orchestral" scoring? I can't remember a single track of music from an RPG except for Mark Morgan's tunes in FO1 and FO2. Everything else is just generic film-type scoring that goes in one ear and out the other.

u don't think arcanum's soundtrack is good? or elder scrolls? or tyranny's? or kotor1/2?

speaking of arcanum that game has one of the coolest soundtracks

 

[Delterius]

Serious question: why do western RPGs always go with generic "orchestral" scoring? I can't remember a single track of music from an RPG except for Mark Morgan's tunes in FO1 and FO2. Everything else is just generic film-type scoring that goes in one ear and out the other.

Perhaps I misunderstand your point, but I don't think that's the problem. JRPGs also have their vices, with euro-sounding orchestratations and an occasional overuse of chorals. Even so, I think each theme in a JRPG tends to have a leitmotiff of its own that gives it a lot of character. That's what makes it memorable. Not the type of scoring.

Arcanum above is a good example, Shadowrun is another. Say what you will about the quality of each game's themes, but they match the desired settings pretty well. They mesh with the game. That's what's important.

And by God what little I saw of Deadfire's OST so far makes the composer sound like a hack.

 

[aweigh]

Yeah, you're right about the fact that it's orchestral not being the important part. I've thought about this some and I think it has a lot to do with the 8-bit sound limitations and how they shaped the way japanese composed music for video games.

Also yeah Arcanum has good music, but the others you mentioned do not. (to Dawkins)

 

[Jezal_k23]

Not an RPG, but the StarCraft 1 soundtrack kicks ass imo. Also good: the original Super Meat Boy soundtrack and Binding of Isaac (not Rebirth). As far as RPGs go, VTMB had a great one too. Underrail has an excellent Fallout inspired soundtrack too.

I'm fond of some tracks in the PoE and Deadfire soundtracks but I feel they sound too passive (as in I don't really feel much at all while listening to them). Compared to an iconic track like the Icewind Dale theme which feels immensely badass I think they did drop the ball with most of the tracks feeling like nothing to me (I'm not a musician so this is how I'm able provide my opinion). I do like the PoE theme at least.

 

[Mazisky]

Not an RPG, but the StarCraft 1 soundtrack kicks ass imo.

Just every Blizzard game from Warcraft 2 till Hearthstone has an amazing soundtrack.

 

[Robespierre]

Not to mention the brilliant MoTB's soundtrack. Discreet but still memorable, especially the main theme or the Mulsantir's one. Deadfire's ost by comparison is amateurish... at best.

 

[Yosharian]

Not to mention the brilliant MoTB's soundtrack. Discreet but still memorable, especially the main theme or the Mulsantir's one. Deadfire's ost by comparison is amateurish... at best.

Let's not forget the memorable scene in which this track is used: