Game News Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Announced and Live on Fig

[Shadenuat]

I don't believe they thought a walking giant avatar of god through, they just needed a cool pitch that would personally affect everyone who played PoE1, and they did well. But the consequences for the setting from this... PoE was established with all medievalish weapons and armor and guns, inspired by Dark Lands, and last time a god tried to interfere with mortals other gods quickly put everything back into balance.
These jumps through levels of epicness just feel so odd. Settings, generally, exist for players to play particular stuff. And I am beginning to lose my understanding at what is PoE one all about with titans jumping out of nowhere

 

[Irenaeus]

I don't believe they thought a walking giant avatar of god through, they just needed a cool pitch that would personally affect everyone who played PoE1, and they did well. But the consequences for the setting from this... PoE was established with all medievalish weapons and armor and guns, inspired by Dark Lands, and last time a god tried to interfere with mortals other gods quickly put everything back into balance.
These jumps through levels of epicness just feel so odd. Settings, generally, exist for players to play particular stuff. And I am beginning to lose my understanding at what is PoE one all about with titans jumping out of nowhere

Guess you didn't read the ending slides if you anger the gods.

 

[Caconym]

I'll take most anything that would make the setting less dull, the more out there the better in fact.

 

[Minttunator]

I hope my pledge was the one that put this over $1 million! The first game wasn't perfect by any means but I enjoyed it a lot and this seems like an improvement for the most part. I hope they can manage decent writing without MCA, though - his characters were by far the most interesting ones in PoE 1.

 

[sstacks]

So evidently this was on Guido Henkel's Facebook earlier today. I understand there were also insinuations of engine similarities as well.
Infinitron

 

[Fairfax]

I'm sure he could have done something like this too.

How can you be sure he would? He's written 2 plots to date, none being similar to that.

The thing about Avellone is - he can adapt to practically any plot you throw at him and find the good and unusual parts in it. Just look how he single-handedly elevated PoE's world and lore building with Durance.

Agreed. Still, I'd like to believe he'd come up with something better, considering they have full creative freedom and own the IP.

Granted, PoE2 has the challenge of having to come up with an excuse for the PC losing all powers and loot, but their solution doesn't even go all the way. Getting fucked up and having your castle destroyed gets rid of your stuff, but it doesn't explain going back to level 1, so why bother? Not to mention the old companions, who will be back to square one as well.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

So evidently this was on Guido Henkel's Facebook earlier today. I understand there were also insinuations of engine similarities as well.
Infinitron

Ha, thought of that when I first heard the name .... as usual with him his actual posts beat made-up trolling

 

[Infinitron]

sstacks Are you shitting me?

Where'd you find that?

 

[Grauken]

Man Guido is giving us Germans a bad name, why does he always have to be so autistic?

 

[Lurker King]

Didn't she do an interview with the Codex a year or so ago?

Let's make an all female interview next time because sorority. I have all figured out. Carry Patel will be interviewed by Scrooge and Crocked Bee to discuss the perils of being a woman in a male dominated culture. If Patel take advantage of the situation to hit on one of the two, we will know that

she is a dyke, for sure.

 

[HoboForEternity]

I'm sure he could have done something like this too.

How can you be sure he would? He's written 2 plots to date, none being similar to that.

The thing about Avellone is - he can adapt to practically any plot you throw at him and find the good and unusual parts in it. Just look how he single-handedly elevated PoE's world and lore building with Durance.

Agreed. Still, I'd like to believe he'd come up with something better, considering they have full creative freedom and own the IP.

Granted, PoE2 has the challenge of having to come up with an excuse for the PC losing all powers and loot, but their solution doesn't even go all the way. Getting fucked up and having your castle destroyed gets rid of your stuff, but it doesn't explain going back to level 1, so why bother? Not to mention the old companions, who will be back to square one as well.

where this was confirmed? I thought we qould continue fron level 12 to 16 depend on you play or not play the white march

 

[KyivAfter12am]

Are they seriously going to fight over the name "Deadfire"? This is something a 13 year old could come up with for his heavy metal band name, and in 10 years would be too embarassed to even tell the story to his friends. It's bad enough that they inflict this terrible, banal non-word upon us, and now they have to argue over who thought of it first?!

When I was 12 I invented a fantasy character named Lord Twilight. I hereby allow any developer to use this name in their next game free of charge.

 

[sstacks]

sstacks Are you shitting me?

Where'd you find that?

Someone who you would instantly know shared it with me but I don't know if they want to be named.

Evidently the thread is gone now...

 

[thesheeep]

Granted, PoE2 has the challenge of having to come up with an excuse for the PC losing all powers and loot, but their solution doesn't even go all the way. Getting fucked up and having your castle destroyed gets rid of your stuff, but it doesn't explain going back to level 1, so why bother? Not to mention the old companions, who will be back to square one as well.

where this was confirmed? I thought we qould continue fron level 12 to 16 depend on you play or not play the white march

I'd be interested in that as well.
Wouldn't mind either way, tbh, but it is an interesting question.

 

[FeelTheRads]

So proud of that name, you'd think he invented Coca-Cola.

 

[Infinitron]

sstacks Are you shitting me?

Where'd you find that?

Someone who you would instantly know shared it with me but I don't know if they want to be named.

Evidently the thread is gone now...

 

[SausageInYourFace]

When I was 12 I invented a fantasy character named Lord Twilight.

I bet he was very mysterious!

 

[sstacks]

sstacks Are you shitting me?

Where'd you find that?

Someone who you would instantly know shared it with me but I don't know if they want to be named.

Evidently the thread is gone now...

The plot thins lol

 

[hilfazer]

maximum party size of five

No...

 

[Fairfax]

I'm sure he could have done something like this too.

How can you be sure he would? He's written 2 plots to date, none being similar to that.

The thing about Avellone is - he can adapt to practically any plot you throw at him and find the good and unusual parts in it. Just look how he single-handedly elevated PoE's world and lore building with Durance.

Agreed. Still, I'd like to believe he'd come up with something better, considering they have full creative freedom and own the IP.

Granted, PoE2 has the challenge of having to come up with an excuse for the PC losing all powers and loot, but their solution doesn't even go all the way. Getting fucked up and having your castle destroyed gets rid of your stuff, but it doesn't explain going back to level 1, so why bother? Not to mention the old companions, who will be back to square one as well.

where this was confirmed? I thought we qould continue fron level 12 to 16 depend on you play or not play the white march

I just assumed that would be the case,. If not, how are they going to balance the game around that? Level scaling? Everybody starts at level 12-16? Because I doubt they'll make 2 versions of every single encounter depending on whether you loaded an old save or not.

 

[Infinitron]

I'll repeat my theory on how they could handle levels:

1) Let players start at level 1, but have the game's prologue level you up very rapidly to level 6 or so.
2) Chop imported characters' level in half (due to SOUL SUCKING), so a vanilla PoE player starts at level 6, and a White March player gets level 7 or 8. That will give you a reasonable mid-level to high level (16-20 with DLC?) experience.

 

[ArchAngel]

So you chase around a powerful being that stole your soul and you use ships to get around and fight vs pirates as well?
So is this BG2 or PoE 2?

 

[HoboForEternity]

I'm sure he could have done something like this too.

How can you be sure he would? He's written 2 plots to date, none being similar to that.

The thing about Avellone is - he can adapt to practically any plot you throw at him and find the good and unusual parts in it. Just look how he single-handedly elevated PoE's world and lore building with Durance.

Agreed. Still, I'd like to believe he'd come up with something better, considering they have full creative freedom and own the IP.

Granted, PoE2 has the challenge of having to come up with an excuse for the PC losing all powers and loot, but their solution doesn't even go all the way. Getting fucked up and having your castle destroyed gets rid of your stuff, but it doesn't explain going back to level 1, so why bother? Not to mention the old companions, who will be back to square one as well.

where this was confirmed? I thought we qould continue fron level 12 to 16 depend on you play or not play the white march

I just assumed that would be the case,. If not, how are they going to balance the game around that? Level scaling? Everybody starts at level 12-16? Because I doubt they'll make 2 versions of every single encounter depending on whether you loaded an old save or not.

baldurs gate 2 starts you at level 7 just fine. New players start the same too.

Trails in the sky sc also start from level 35 ifcyou dont import or your character is below 35.

You dont have to start at level one. Make the level cap 30. You are fighting a god after all. No more playin around with xaurips i hope. I just hope the encounters are motb or throne of bhaal level and they goes away with those xaurips crap.

New players just can get points so they can build new,character accordingly

 

[Sizzle]

I'm sure he could have done something like this too.

How can you be sure he would? He's written 2 plots to date, none being similar to that.

The thing about Avellone is - he can adapt to practically any plot you throw at him and find the good and unusual parts in it. Just look how he single-handedly elevated PoE's world and lore building with Durance.

Agreed. Still, I'd like to believe he'd come up with something better, considering they have full creative freedom and own the IP.

I was referring more to how a good writer/designer can make (almost) any idea good (or at least better) if they know what they are doing and understand their craft.

If you reduce the plot of practically any RPG masterpiece, you would likely get something that sounds silly until you've actually played it.

- Arcanum: your blimp crashed, and a dwarf cosplaying as a gnome gave you a ring.

- Fallout: a water purification chip in a nuclear shelter vault stopped working, so now you have to find another one.

- Fallout 2: Ooooh, this time it's a G.E.C.K.!

etc.

What I mean is - it's more how they handle the idea, the execution of it, that matters.

 

[aratuk]

It's almost like RPG designers should stop reusing the same pool of adolescent drama words. Deathfire Dragon Dungeon: The Reborn Summoning Conquest.