Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Anthedon]

3.04 is live now (1.4 GB).

 

[Excidium II]

No patch notes?

 

[Infinitron]

No patch notes?

Not yet.

 

[da_rays]

My bad , thats the beta patch like Infinitron pointed out

Patch notes for beta 3.04 : http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/89399-the-304-beta-is-now-live-patch-notes-within/

 

[Infinitron]

Patch notes for 3.04 : http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/89399-the-304-beta-is-now-live-patch-notes-within/

No, that's for the beta.

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/90055-update-304-is-now-live-on-steam-and-origin/

 

[Excidium II]

What's the name of the gog installer?

 

[Sannom]

I don't think it's on GOG yet.

 

[Dwarvophile]

I don't think it's on GOG yet.

:-(

Out of topic : Did anyone manage to make a Durance build still viable at high difficultyy but while keeping his staff and robe ? I suppose superior deflection is mandatory, any other defen,sive talents & abililties to help him stand on his feets when casting under punches ?

 

[Grunker]

Eh, I don't think I'd ever put heavy or even medium armor on a priest? Seems much more sensible to go for hatchet + light shield and keep him in the "second line" out of melee range. You're not losing that much by using the staff instead I suppose.

(I play on PotD)

 

[Prime Junta]

Eh, I don't think I'd ever put heavy or even medium armor on a priest? Seems much more sensible to go for hatchet + light shield and keep him in the "second line" out of melee range. You're not losing that much by using the staff instead I suppose.

(I play on PotD)

Hehe, funny you should say that -- in my ongoing playthrough, PC is a heavily-armoured frontline priest of Berath. Works pretty well although I'm not sure I'd say it's more effective than a second-line priest.

 

[Excidium II]

Durance does have some powergamed resolve.

 

[Dwarvophile]

Yes. I think I'll go back to the staff and robes even if it makes him very vulnerable. At least, with the staff, he was able to deal melee damages from second line. It's just that I looked at the excellent nerdcommando vid for follower's build and for a while he convinced me to go with sword + shield. But years of Ad&d programmed me that priest using blades just feels wrong.

No wait, I can keep the armor. Heavy armor was never wrong for priest :-p I'm a sheep all right but sheep are responsible for great inventions like plaids, pullover kebab and stuff !

 

[Roguey]

Eothas is the god who supports traditional Priests.

 

[Grunker]

Yes. I think I'll go back to the staff and robes even if it makes him very vulnerable. At least, with the staff, he was able to deal melee damages from second line. It's just that I looked at the excellent nerdcommando vid for follower's build and for a while he convinced me to go with sword + shield. But years of Ad&d programmed me that priest using blades just feels wrong.

No wait, I can keep the armor. Heavy armor was never wrong for priest :-p I'm a sheep all right but sheep are responsible for great inventions like plaids, pullover kebab and stuff !

I'm not saying there aren't niche builds (in PoE there always are), but generally in PoE you should think of Priests as "divine mages."

And in PoE, most mages go for Hatchet + Light Shield and light - if any - armor. Don't know why you would use a sword.

All I'm saying is for purposes of optimization on PotD of course. If you're playing on other difficulties, I certainly would advise you not to optimize like that and pretty much go with whatever you bloody feel like - it's all viable on Hard and below, more or less

 

[Hyperion]

Even though it hinders their recovery time, giving your casters heavy armor is the easiest way to exploit the enemy AI. The AI prioritizes lowest DR first, so having a high deflection Paladin or Fighter in medium armor with the rest of the party in plate mail makes the game infinitely easier at the expense of traditional classes.

That being said, Priests do best behind your wall of meat as they have the worst base defenses in the game, and getting them up to par takes a lot of work. Giving Durance a Staff for its 1.8x reach is viable until PotD, but in some fights you'll definitely want him to hang back and wait until the enemy's initial burst is over or else he's a sitting duck.

My personal favorite build for Durance was plate mail + arquebus and Nightshroud + shield in quick slot 2 for those rare occasions something made it through to him.

 

[Grunker]

Agreed - I just personally shy away from anything that resembles exploits in that way.

 

[FreeKaner]

Not giving durance a plate armour and an arquebus to recreate him in image of Magran? Plus helmet is essential to hide his terrible neckbeard.

 

[Dwarvophile]

Yes. I think I'll go back to the staff and robes even if it makes him very vulnerable. At least, with the staff, he was able to deal melee damages from second line. It's just that I looked at the excellent nerdcommando vid for follower's build and for a while he convinced me to go with sword + shield. But years of Ad&d programmed me that priest using blades just feels wrong.

No wait, I can keep the armor. Heavy armor was never wrong for priest :-p I'm a sheep all right but sheep are responsible for great inventions like plaids, pullover kebab and stuff !

I'm not saying there aren't niche builds (in PoE there always are), but generally in PoE you should think of Priests as "divine mages."

And in PoE, most mages go for Hatchet + Light Shield and light - if any - armor. Don't know why you would use a sword.

All I'm saying is for purposes of optimization on PotD of course. If you're playing on other difficulties, I certainly would advise you not to optimize like that and pretty much go with whatever you bloody feel like - it's all viable on Hard and below, more or less

Sword is for the Inspired flame ability. Durance is a follower of Magran after all, and Magran's favoured weapons are sword and arquebus, so I thought the staff had to go. I decided that he stopped his repentance at the moment he meet the PC and leave the staff and robe, but it doesn't fit with his dialogue bits. Really, Durance's character is written around those attributes.
Is it possible to enchant the staff with Durgan's steel ?

@ FreeKaner Giving him an arquebus, with 9 in dex and perception ddn't feel natural.

To Hyperion I like the Nightshroud + shield idea. Yeah, I realised about the AI exploit at the moment I played with Zahua, I gave him only light armor and he is a true agro magnet.

 

[Prime Junta]

IMO Durance's staff was a mistake. Giving a character a "signature" object that he can't use optimally is just a bad idea.

It's a shame they didn't have the Soulbound mechanic to start with -- if they had made it Soulbound to him, it would all have made sense...

 

[Excidium II]

Just leave it on his back for larping points

 

[Atchodas]

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/90072-304-enemies-becoming-weaker-upon-a-reload/#entry1857351

 

[Grunker]

Haha, the equivalent of dice fudging in pen & paper. Popamole grognards should be pleased

Damn that's dumb if it's intentional.

 

[Atchodas]

doubt it , 99,9% it is a bug , no different from other bugs that gets introduced with every single patch even 2 years after the initial release of the game .

Not paying for a single obsidian game ever again , fuck this

 

[Roguey]

I wonder if no one ever catches these bugs in the patch beta because hardly anyone pays attention to the numbers.

 

[jaydee2k]

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/90072-304-enemies-becoming-weaker-upon-a-reload/#entry1857351

Is this bug affecting only auto-saves or all savegames?