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Planescape: Torment is 25 years old this year. What are you hoping for?

motherfucker

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The best we can hope for is that the game is left alone. It doesn't need a sequel and it definitely does not need a remake or any kind of modern update.
There's EE already
 

Baron Tahn

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Sigil is a great setting though. Id like to see that done really well. Just dont dig up the Nameless One and drag him behind the chariot pls.
 

Falksi

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The original shouldn't be touched, no sequels needed either.

Wouldn't mind a Codex dev who actually gets the game making their own game inspired by it though. Similar style, themes and subjects/ideas which offer as much quality and depth, but with better pacing and better combat too.
 

Arthandas

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I hope no one comes up with the idea of refreshing the brand. Really, it's better left dead. While Baldur's Gate 3 can be considered at least a partially successful game because the setting was always been pulp and infantile, PT needs a slightly more intelligent approach and sense of taste. No one, especially Wizards, is going to give money to something that won't please former Tumblr users.
The sad reality of being a Codexer - having a favorite game and wishing it never gets a sequel...

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Lagole Gon

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Holy shit I just realized that I never considered the possibility of a new Torment by Larian.

:prosper:

New "Torment" by Larian is a horrific HORRIFIC thought.

On the other hand, something "Planescape" would probably fit Larian better than Forgotten Realms.
Ya know... considering that they kept shoving demons, illithids and githaynki into level 1 Baldur's Gate adventure.
 

Hellraiser

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Holy shit I just realized that I never considered the possibility of a new Torment by Larian.

:prosper:

New "Torment" by Larian is a horrific HORRIFIC thought.

On the other hand, something "Planescape" would probably fit Larian better than Forgotten Realms.
Ya know... considering that they kept shoving demons, illithids and githaynki into level 1 Baldur's Gate adventure.
Inflation hit demons, illithids and githyanki hard, now their level values are worth only as much as 1 level of the player character.
 

Serus

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If someone ever made another Planescape I only hope they wont forget about CRPG elements other than stat checks in dialogues and some limited exploration. Setting, story and writing alone don't make a good CRPG.

Perhaps make it a point and click adventure. Great setting, if someone could add good puzzles I would play it.

Who i am kidding. Leave it alone.
 

BruceVC

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I would love to see another Planescape game using the IP

It will be a new story with new characters. Planescape has lots of scope and components like the planes to explore and different groups to interact with

Im surprised this thread is not full of "of course I would love to see another Planescape game " :bounce:
 

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Arthandas

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To be perfectly honest, I think PST's ending sets it up pretty nicely for a sequel.
The Nameless One died and was recruited into a never-ending war, but as we know, he was pretty fucking powerful (especially now, after merging with other reincarnations). The ending doesn't state whether he lost his powers or not.
If he didn't, a force like him could tip the balance and make one of the sides finally win and end the war. Surviving the war, helping one of the sides win (or making both of them eradicate themselves), ending the war and escaping Hell would be a pretty decent premise imo.
 

Eirinjas

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It should never get a sequel. A new game in the Planescape setting, from a measured hand, would be nice. I wouldn't hold my breath though. I've been waiting decades for another Ravenloft game.

:negative:
 
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As others have stated, PST should be left alone and with no direct sequel.

I'm not even sure I'd like to see a CRPG take place in the Planescape setting by today's developers. PST being a deconstruction of the RPG genre and its tropes was a very important part of what made the setting good. Without contrast and grounding, Planescape can quickly devolve into an infantile "anything goes" setting which generally makes everything diluted and inconsistent. It's why Numenera as a setting is dissatisfying. I don't think anyone in industry has the talent to understand those nuances or the restraint necessary for a Planescape game to be good.
 

Tyranicon

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I have more hope in some AI generating PS:T 2 out of thin air 5 years from now, than I have faith in the current crop of gamdevs achieving anything close to what the original did.

Videogame writing in the 80s with one-sentence narratives are better than the current model. At least when I cringed at the one-sentence stories, it was funny.
 

Baron Tahn

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Exactly. Which sucks ass - Im halfway into that field but trying to write anything worthwhile is a draining process and cynically, you always know its just dreams. The rights will go to someone with 'progressive sensibilities' even if I had the rest of the production skills to muster up the team to turn it in to anything.

I wonder how many top tier RPG storylines are left scattered on the tables and floors of random DMs and writers around the world with nowhere to go. Infuriates me.
 

Old Hans

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I hope they turn it into a TV sitcom starring Ted Danson as the Undying One and co-starring Larry David as Morte
 

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