PoE Sales Analysis Thread

[Sensuki]

Keep in mind there are apparently ~120K backers, and as a backer, I bought 15 extra copies of the game on the backer website that don't count as sales. I'm sure lots of others did stuff like that too.

All retail copies also count as steam.

Based on that I'd say it's selling alright.

 

[TheGreatOne]

So you admit PoE isn't the worst RPG ever.

Yes, there are quite many games worse than it. Like every single game Sawyer ever worked on prior to it, every single Bioware game sans BG2 and Square-enix game sans FF Tactics etc. That doesn't mean it's top 10 material.

Moreover New Vegas is #8 on the list http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9453 so you're saying PoE is a top ten role playing game.

Morever VTMB is #6 on the list, so you're saying that VTMB is a better game than New Vegas. Bringing it up is disingenuous since you can't pretend that you agree with it. You've called half the games on that list bad and the other half would've pounded your popamole loving ass into submission had you ever tried playing them.

 

[Roguey]

Yes, there are quite many games worse than it. Like every single game Sawyer ever worked on prior to it, every single Bioware game sans BG2 and Square-enix game sans FF Tactics etc. That doesn't mean it's top 10 material.

Sounds like a success then.

Morever VTMB is #6 on the list, so you're saying that VTMB is a better game than New Vegas. Bringing it up is disingenuous since you can't pretend that you agree with it. You've called half the games on that list bad and the other half would've pounded your popamole loving ass into submission had you ever tried playing them.

It's not a question of better, it's whether or not it's a top ten contender. Every RPG I like more than Bloodlines would thus be a top ten contender, sure.

 

[TheGreatOne]

It's not a top ten contender. Not when games like Pool of Radiance and Ultima V are no where near it.

It's not a question of better, it's whether or not it's a top ten contender. Every RPG I like more than Bloodlines would thus be a top ten contender, sure.

And according to you VTMB is total fucking car-bitch and SS2 is just like Bioshock, so your standards aren't really something I'd put much faith in.

 

[J_C]

I honestly didn't expect AJ to make a review of PoE, positive nonetheless, but I guess that beneath the fat layers graphics-whoring conformism and publisher ass-licking techniques
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Actually non of that if true about Joe. He just like modern games, but calls out bullshit more than probably any other mainstream journalist.

 

[Infinitron]

Keep in mind there are apparently ~120K backers, and as a backer, I bought 15 extra copies of the game on the backer website that don't count as sales. I'm sure lots of others did stuff like that too.

Well, the Kickstarter backer achievement is now at just 16%, so you can do the math. There definitely aren't 100,000+ backers who own the game on Steam.

 

[AN4RCHID]

I'm going to be ecstatic when Pillars sells more than Wasteland 2 in a shorter period of time.

Get ecstatic then, cause this already happened 2.5 years ago.

 

[ArchAngel]

Keep in mind there are apparently ~120K backers, and as a backer, I bought 15 extra copies of the game on the backer website that don't count as sales. I'm sure lots of others did stuff like that too.

All retail copies also count as steam.

Based on that I'd say it's selling alright.

Why did you buy 15 extra copies for a game you knew would not be good enough for your taste?

 

[Sensuki]

None of them were for me. People paid me for a $20 backer website copy.

 

[Infinitron]

None of them were for me. People paid me for a $20 backer website copy.

Just 20? Blaine, come over here and tell this man how it's done

 

[Sensuki]

Why would I charge more money when people can just go to the next backer and do the same?

Not everyone is

 

[Abu Antar]

Why would I charge more money when people can just go to the next backer and do the same?

Not everyone is

I did the same as you. I even bought some copies and gave away.

 

[ArchAngel]

None of them were for me. People paid me for a $20 backer website copy.

Damn, why I didn't think of this :D I bought it for 35$ off their site. And where I live 15$ difference is not something to ignore.

 

[Sensuki]

I posted multiple times here that I was offering keys for $20, although that was only over the last 6 months or so.

 

[ArchAngel]

I posted multiple times here that I was offering keys for $20, although that was only over the last 6 months or so.

I bought my game in summer 2014 before they closed their website for new non-KS backers.

 

[Roguey]

I'm going to be ecstatic when Pillars sells more than Wasteland 2 in a shorter period of time.

Get ecstatic then, cause this already happened 2.5 years ago.

With Kickstarter they were selling a dream. At this moment, the delivered product is about 100,000 copies away from overtaking it.

Though to give Wasteland 2 some credit, it's sold more copies in a shorter period of time than the Black Isle RPGs. It took Torment four years to reach 400,000, and Wasteland 2 did that in months. The Fallouts sold even less than that in the same amount of time.

 

[Hatred]

The worlds population is a lot bigger now. The percentage of people who have PC's which could run this game is much higher. I didn't even own a PC when Fallout and BG's came out(owning a PC wasn't 'standard'). Also back then over here Fallout 2 was literally $90 (idk in usa terms maybe think like 120) and PoE costs 50 Aud (up to about 60 on steam EB actually cheaper go figure). So comparing the sales now to the sales then is something which needs some kind of inflation math to even out. I would say I wish I hit 'suki up for a copy but what I really wish is that I grew out of RPG's and avoided this shitstorm and never let my dota skills slide.

 

[Roguey]

Baldur's Gate sold a million within two years, Diablo over two million in three years.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

What does it matter what price F2 was at release? It was the 90s, everybody pirated it anyways.

Part of the reason why Black Isle descendants get so much support on Kickstarter, tbh. When I saw Fargo is launching a campaign I wasn't sure if he can deliver, but I figured I owe him one after stealing all of his shit since the late 80s.

Interplay was long dead and buried when i first got my hand on legitimate Fallout 1&2.

 

[Hatred]

So imo if this game doesnt sell 2 million copies in three years it has failed to replicate the success of BG. So many more PC's out there. Considering how they catered to the casual market it should be easy.

 

[Xeon]

I might be wrong but wasn't BG considered a modern AAA game when it first came out?

 

[ArchAngel]

So imo if this game doesnt sell 2 million copies in three years it has failed to replicate the success of BG. So many more PC's out there. Considering how they catered to the casual market it should be easy.

Most gamers from that time grew up and don't play games anymore. Only some of us here keep to the hobby. PoE needs to bring in new audience to have many sales.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Oh course it was it was. Baldur was a big budget, mass market blockbuster, launched by a mainstream publisher and catered to teenagers with its masturbatory powerfantasy plot. Its only amusing people will now try to rewrite history and make it into some "Indie hit for the hardcore".

 

[Infinitron]

I might be wrong but wasn't BG considered a modern AAA game when it first came out?

The term "AAA game" wasn't really in use back then.

Baldur's Gate was a fairly big seller, but IIRC the mainstream didn't know quite what to make of it at the time. The PC gaming scene at the time was centered around catering to the competitive multiplayer shooter and RTS scenes, and Half-Life was considered the future of gaming. BG was kind of a throwback.

 

[Hatred]

Most gamers from that time grew up and don't play games anymore.

I will accept they don't play games. The grew up part might take some selling.
Xeon A lot more people know who Obsidian are than knew what bioware was. Liking swords or 'fantasy' type stuff or LOTR or w/e was certainly not socially acceptable like it is now. Selling crap with magic spells and whatnot in it was a lot harder then imo. Obs have it easy now.