Grand Strategy Project Caesar - Paradox Tinto's New Game

[AwesomeButton]

Combat better be something utilizing unit types like CK II, but actually balanced for impact of unit choice, or this will suck badly on that front too.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Each religion has a religious group it belongs to and attitudes towards other religions. Tolerance and religious unity are in, missionaries are out in favor of "slow" conversion, many religions already have unique mechanics.

The original system was always weak anyway.

All in all, these changes are promising a FAR more interesting colonial America game. One where you can't turn your American holdings into nice little loyal catholic portuguese in ten minutes with zero effort, and indian raids are never a real problem.

 

[None]

Combat better be something utilizing unit types like CK II, but actually balanced for impact of unit choice, or this will suck badly on that front too.

Many unit types looks to be the plan, here's just one example.

Balance, as always, is a crapshoot. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Space Satan]

The level of trolling is magnificent over there. EUV announced intersecting organizations, where Holy Roman Empire member could be also a member of some religious order or ally of someone. And at the same time victoria 3 devs announce that POWUR BLUKZ...with the main feature, where UK cannot be member of Entente because UK is a member of a "UK power block".
It is like an old trick to place some ugly and incompetent idiot near you so you will shine in comparison.

 

[Minecrawler]

"Here you go. We'll have plastic 3d characters, but we will use them only for the same stuff as eu4. WE ARE NOT CRUSADER KINGS.
Have fun purchasing tons of clothing dlcs for a 500-year timeline though."

I guess some retardation had to be expected from Johan, Imperator should have taught me not to trust the swede.

 

[None]

WE ARE NOT CRUSADER KINGS.

We are Crusader Kings.

 

[Minecrawler]

Not conjuring spouses for royal marriages out of thin air is not even some hardcore simulationism, just common sense.
Should have been in eu4 too.
But whenever he promises it will be less than even in Imperator, that's when you better believe him.
No loyalty system combined with Imperator-like rebellions will suck.

 

[thesecret1]

Why... why are there mana symbols underneath the characters?

 

[Minecrawler]

Why... why are there mana symbols underneath the characters?

Nope, that lesson he did learn (or so it seems).

"these attributes will not add any sort of mana, but they will impact how well the character will perform certain roles. One example is that the diplomatic ability of an admiral impacts the morale of the navy he leads."

 

[what am i doing]

Why... why are there mana symbols underneath the characters?

Nope, that lesson he did learn (or so it seems).

"these attributes will not add any sort of mana, but they will impact how well the character will perform certain roles. One example is that the diplomatic ability of an admiral impacts the morale of the navy he leads."

IMO, the original problem with mana wasn't that it was spendable but rather that it was too abstracted and didn't represent particular things, but rather, bundles of thematically related things, like bird mana was used for ship design, but also for cultural conversion, and also for diplomacy... what did it represent? Nothing, it was just the stat for shit that fit under the 4x trader-diplomat archetype. Changing it from bird mana to a bird stat doesn't fix that - spendable points, especially in a flux economy sense (you get X per day and your active tasks automatically spend them) are perfectly fine, you just need them to represent particular things, which means you need a lot of them rather than just three.

Suppression points in Victoria 2 were fine because they represented something concrete: the amount of work that your secret police can get done disrupting/shutting down rebel groups that haven't yet entered active revolt. They can only do so much. In EU4 that gets lumped under sword mana, and the points you could spend suppressing rebel groups could also be spent designing a new type of cannon, as though your spies and state thugs pull drafting tools out of their arses and start drawing up blueprints for the culverin.

 

[Minecrawler]

Well, Johan's line of reasoning for keeping the bird and keeping it called "DIP" is that it goes back to prestigious days of EU1 and beyond, so it will stay that way.
About as innovative as Ubisoft. Also, doing more attributes would expand character system too much, have to be really careful here. Character overdose is a real pandemic and it disproportionately affects EU4 player communities.

Any potential for characters lies only in moddability. Same with pops. Vanilla pops are already shaping up to be an "estate, but with number". No nuance, no power base on provincial level.
Build house in random province -> +10 nobles -> nobles estate 10% stronger.

 

[Space Satan]

Why... why are there mana symbols underneath the characters?

Not mana. skills, AMD-MIL-DIP. They gone from 1-6 skill range to a larger 1-100 scale.

 

[None]

Oy vey Jews don't assimilate? This is anti-Semetic, shut it down!



With the reveal of different country types, I bet it'll be possible to play as a Jewish banking cabal.

 

[mondblut]

That's a… lot of provinces.

 

[None]

That's a… lot of provinces.

It is. And it's probably the biggest concern I have so far.

If we're interacting a lot at the province level it could become very tedious, very quickly without the right tools. Auto-build and auto-management settings are going to be a necessity.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

The UI and overall look are giving very unpolished vibes. Like they've just slapped this on over the top of their Victoria 3 assets. Example of unpolished, a lot of the text doesn't align properly, the province borders are all too thick. I hope they're dynamically adjustible.
I like that things have gotten more complex but this in turn means that late game is probably going to be a total mess full of border gore and way too much macro.

 

[thesecret1]

MEIOU already solved the issue of too many provinces by having provinces build shit and develop themselves over time, with the player potentially speeding it up with micro if he so chooses.

 

[Joggerino]

MEIOU already solved the issue of too many provinces by having provinces build shit and develop themselves over time, with the player potentially speeding it up with micro if he so chooses.

With a massive performance hit

 

[thesecret1]

MEIOU already solved the issue of too many provinces by having provinces build shit and develop themselves over time, with the player potentially speeding it up with micro if he so chooses.

With a massive performance hit

It's not that bad, honestly. They improved it a lot over the years. And besides, they're just modders - Paradox should be able to do even better

 

[Axioms]

MEIOU already solved the issue of too many provinces by having provinces build shit and develop themselves over time, with the player potentially speeding it up with micro if he so chooses.

With a massive performance hit

It's not that bad, honestly. They improved it a lot over the years. And besides, they're just modders - Paradox should be able to do even better

This is correct. The performance hit was primarily caused by having to use scripting.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

I wonder if Paradox will go bankrupt before this game comes out lol

 

[kris]

I wonder if Paradox will go bankrupt before this game comes out lol

you need to do something, go buy some DLC.