Information Project Eternity Kickstarter Update #42: Chris Avellone's Arcanum Let's Play Begins

[EG]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

Well a group as ugly, insecure, and resentful as nerds is sure to hate creatures as beautiful and sublime as elves.

 

[Excidium]

I like how he claims to have open world ocd, having to do/get everything, then he walks in circles four or five times and completely misses the crashed plane and cave.

He actually found the crashed plane, just the cave he missed which is a shame because that was a sidequest.

 

[MF]

Gangster city isn't any weirder than zombie city...like CK said it's p. retarded to go "muh setting" when Fallout 2 happened p. much immediately and is what stabilished the setting.

Necropolis has a very good background story that explains it well and is integral to the story and the setting. It's ghoul city, not zombie city.

Fallout was more to me than just a game. It was like a really good book. I felt richer after having played it. Fallout 2 degraded that experience. The visionaries that made Fallout left Interplay before the production of Fallout 2 was well underway, and it shows.

Volorun, let's bury this discussion as it's been done to death. The suicide dialogue for The Master is one of the best examples of its kind and very convincing. The Master is a psychological mess, fueled by more than one mind filled with despair, regret and misplaced faith. Even the voice acting was top notch. All the Fallout talking heads were memorable and well written. None of the characters in Fallout 2 even came close.

I hope Avellone has fun playing Arcanum. Something tells me he might stop before he reaches Tarant.

 

[Murk]

Man, between this and watching Adam Brennek play IWD 2...

...Do game developers even know how to play games? I feel horrible for asking that question, but holy shit.

I now demand to watch an LP of Saywer play BG 2 just to see how his style is. I'm curious if his balance fetish comes from trying to gnome-bard everything and dying.

 

[tuluse]

Sawyer's ideas come from watching retards who can't figure out you need to buff your party *before* combat begins.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

MCA sucks at videogames.
How ironic.

 

[Volourn]

"Volorun, let's bury this discussion as it's been done to death. The suicide dialogue for The Master is one of the best examples of its kind and very convincing. The Master is a psychological mess, fueled by more than one mind filled with despair, regret and misplaced faith. Even the voice acting was top notch. All the Fallout talking heads were memorable and well written. None of the characters in Fallout 2 even came close."

Idiot.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Would have been great if they did the Cassidy talking head for FO2, with voiced dialogue and all.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Fallout was more to me than just a game. It was like a really good book. I felt richer after having played it. Fallout 2 degraded that experience. The visionaries that made Fallout left Interplay before the production of Fallout 2 was well underway, and it shows.

lol

 

[metzger]

The gangsters in Fallout 2 are no different from Gizmo or Decker in Fallout 1. At least I don't see any significant differences. Why is it a problem?

 

[EG]

The gangsters in Fallout 2 are no different from Gizmo or Decker in Fallout 1. At least I don't see any significant differences. Why is it a problem?

Committing suicide. Faith in humanity shocked .etc

Surely there's just a tad bit of a difference between some fat slob running a shitty little bar (labeled as a "casino") and a whole fucking city utilizing 40s anachronisms and based entirely around gambling, to the point where it's a generational conflict?

Surey?

Just a little?

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

ITT people still pretend that F1 didn't have a proportionally high amount of silly lulz.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

The gangsters in Fallout 2 are no different from Gizmo or Decker in Fallout 1. At least I don't see any significant differences. Why is it a problem?

Committing suicide. Faith in humanity shocked .etc

Surely there's just a tad bit of a difference between some fat slob running a shitty little bar (labeled as a "casino") and a whole fucking city utilizing 40s acronyms and based entirely around gambling, to the point where it's a generational conflict?

Surey?

Just a little?

Is it the same as the difference between a Robin Hood thief guild complete with an ott British accent?

 

[EG]

ITT people still pretend that F1 didn't have a proportionally high amount of silly lulz.

Sure it did. Just no where near the degree that Fallout 2 had them (which Fallout 3 happily magnified exponentially) and often shoved into little one-off events.

 

[Volourn]

Committing suicide. Faith in humanity shocked .etc

"Surely there's just a tad bit of a difference between some fat slob running a shitty little bar (labeled as a "casino") and a whole fucking city utilizing 40s acronyms and based entirely around gambling, to the point where it's a generational conflict?

Surey?

Just a little?"

FFS Are you THAT delusional in your FO fanboyism? FFS


"Sure it did. Just no where near the degree that Fallout 2 had them (which Fallout 3 happily magnified exponentially) and often shoved into little one-off events. "

YTou have to be a deulsioanl insane frakazoid. That isthe only explanation possible.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

ITT people still pretend that F1 didn't have a proportionally high amount of silly lulz.

Sure it did. Just no where near the degree that Fallout 2 had them (which Fallout 3 happily magnified exponentially) and often shoved into little one-off events.

Yeah, like the above mentioned masterfully designed Necropolis, where you had this incredibly moody and well-set confrontation with its perfectly written leader that you could out of the blue ask for a sandwich just for some mature, prestigious lulz.

 

[EG]

YTou have to be a deulsioanl insane frakazoid. That isthe only explanation possible.

Does that mean I'm finally one of you guys?

 

[Volourn]

The fact you have 2743 posts yet still grouped me with the rest of the Codexian Hivemind tells me you aren't one of 'you guys' yet. You gotz more workz to do, son. Read up on Codex History tm.

 

[metzger]

Surely there's just a tad bit of a difference between some fat slob running a shitty little bar (labeled as a "casino") and a whole fucking city utilizing 40s acronyms and based entirely around gambling, to the point where it's a generational conflict?

It's not a shitty little bar, it's a real casino, you can gamble there. Gizmo is a major power in the city, he will rule Junctown if you eliminate Killian for him. And he looks like a mob boss:

 

[Grunker]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

I like elves... though not their Tolkienesque D&D off-shoots.

Sapkowski's elves are the only :monocle: elves

 

[Volourn]

No.

 

[EG]

Surely there's just a tad bit of a difference between some fat slob running a shitty little bar (labeled as a "casino") and a whole fucking city utilizing 40s acronyms and based entirely around gambling, to the point where it's a generational conflict?

It's not a shitty little bar, it's a real casino, you can gamble there. Gizmo is a major power in the city, he will rule Junctown if you eliminate Killian for him. And he looks like a mob boss:

OMG, he has a desk! And you can gamble!

Its like the same thing. Lol!

I's been defeated, noes!

 

[Mrowak]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

I like elves... though not their Tolkienesque D&D off-shoots.

Sapkowski's elves are the only :monocle: elves

Well, Elves modelled on actual British legends (aka. Sidhe) are fine too. In fact, they are the best.

 

[MF]

It's not a shitty little bar, it's a real casino, you can gamble there. Gizmo is a major power in the city, he will rule Junctown if you eliminate Killian for him. And he looks like a mob boss:

It's a shitty little bar in a shitty little town. Junktown is not a city by any stretch of the imagination. You can gamble in a lot of little bars, you know. Fruit machines aplenty.
He is a major power because the only other power is a shopkeeper whom the locals have elected to protect them. And a toothless gang.

Loxley had the same explanation as New Reno. He found a book on Robin Hood and decided to mimic that. Not Fallout's strongest point, but he's just one guy and not an entire city built around a lame premise.

As for Seth's dialogue, yes. There is the occasional corny line of dialogue in Fallout. That doesn't make it the cheese ball piece of crap that Fallout 2 is.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Seems that despite your obvious mental prowess you somehow missed the fact that Fallout 2 is a much bigger game, proportions and all that.

Also, using school-level apologetics is hardly intellectual stuff, I guess you could even call it :drums rolling: low brow.