Information Project Eternity Kickstarter Update #42: Chris Avellone's Arcanum Let's Play Begins

[Surf Solar]

I recall his answer to my question about why New Reno had to be the inconsistent cluster fuck that it was: "Gangsters are cool."

And they were p. cool indeed.

But not for a fallout game

 

[Clockwork Knight]

The only other Fallout until then was the original, which was released the year before. The series didn't have much of an identity then. In fact, since every other game in the series follows on FO2's lulzy footsteps, it's funny that people still insist that Fallout isn't really about lulz.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

He is playing a diplomat? Good luck .

 

[Excidium]

I recall his answer to my question about why New Reno had to be the inconsistent cluster fuck that it was: "Gangsters are cool."

And they were p. cool indeed.

But not for a fallout game

Gangster city isn't any weirder than zombie city...like CK said it's p. retarded to go "muh setting" when Fallout 2 happened p. much immediately and is what stabilished the setting.

Spoiler

Also the fact that I played Fallout 2 first may have influenced my opinion

 

[EG]

The only other Fallout until then was the original, which was released the year before. The series didn't have much of an identity then. In fact, since every other game in the series follows on FO2's lulzy footsteps, it's funny that people still insist that Fallout isn't really about lulz.

Why let the children dictate the view we have of the parent?

 

[Excidium]

Because an 1-year old child just had a baby and that's incredible?

 

[EG]

Because an 1-year old child just had a baby and that's incredible?

. . . Your wordplay will be your undoing!

Or was it mine.

 

[Surf Solar]

The only other Fallout until then was the original, which was released the year before. The series didn't have much of an identity then. In fact, since every other game in the series follows on FO2's lulzy footsteps, it's funny that people still insist that Fallout isn't really about lulz.

Why let the children dictate the view we have of the parent?

This. I don't know, that's quite a weak argument there, CK.
I recently replayed the two fallouts and was shocked that there is such a huge leap in atmosphere and believability jumping from FO1 to FO2. But let's not get into that argument again..

(btw I've played FO2 before FO1 too, that still didn't cloud my judgement )

 

[villain of the story]

This made me want to give Arcanum a new try. Which character choice would be the best to finish the game with as few annoyances due to combat as possible? I Once played a gunslinger, that was kind of fun, but I want to try out the magic too. Harm spamming/charismatic leader guy hybrid?

Me too, I want to play the game right now. I've finished with a gunslinger techie of proper manners before. This time, I'll go full derp with a melee character and adopt less than proper manners.

 

[Excidium]

This made me want to give Arcanum a new try. Which character choice would be the best to finish the game with as few annoyances due to combat as possible? I Once played a gunslinger, that was kind of fun, but I want to try out the magic too. Harm spamming/charismatic leader guy hybrid?

Summoning is really powerful too.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

The only other Fallout until then was the original, which was released the year before. The series didn't have much of an identity then. In fact, since every other game in the series follows on FO2's lulzy footsteps, it's funny that people still insist that Fallout isn't really about lulz.

Why let the children dictate the view we have of the parent?

Not so much the view of the parent, but of his whole family. Since you're using a family analogy yourself - let's say you have the Fallout clan, a family of hardy men who came to America seeking a better life.

You have Cristopher Fallout, the patriarch, who is really into the progressive rock he listened to in his youth. Then you have his sons Jeb, Clem, Earl, Bobbi Jo, Mary Lou, Trixie, Crystal, Billy Bob and Carl Fallout, who are all hardcore fans of Insane Clown Posse. Do you think they should be known as the Prog family, or the Juggalo family?

 

[EG]

I think . . . the children should be liquidated.

 

[DwarvenFood]

The funny thing is that for all the bashing he takes lately here, Sawyer is the one person at Obsidian who would play the game closer to Codex standards.
I can totally imagine him to spent 10 minutes to master the UI and all his options, and then proceed coldly and with mathematical efficiency to beat the game making only completelly logical decisions.
His commentary on Arcanum design would be...interesting.(and it would cause much butthurt)

Well, not all of us follow the mondblutian school, I for one am looking forward to MCA's commentary on upcoming quests.

 

[tuluse]

Not so much the view of the parent, but of his whole family. Since you're using a family analogy yourself - let's say you have the Fallout clan, a family of hardy men who came to America seeking a better life.

You have Cristopher Fallout, the patriarch, who is really into the progressive rock he listened to in his youth. Then you have his sons Jeb, Clem, Earl, Bobbi Jo, Mary Lou, Trixie, Crystal, Billy Bob and Carl Fallout, who are all hardcore fans of Insane Clown Posse. Do you think they should be known as the Prog family, or the Juggalo family?

This family analogy is stupid because BoS and Fallout 3 were made by people with little or no connection to the first game.

It's like saying the AvP movies have as much right to represent the Alien and Predator series as the original movies.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Doesn't matter. They may be bastard kids, but they still bear the Fallout clan's name therefore this is what the clan is known for, Juggalo parties.

 

[tuluse]

Bastard still means they were begot by one of the parents. This is just some assholes coming along later and taking the name.

 

[Volourn]

"I recall his answer to my question about why New Reno had to be the inconsistent cluster fuck that it was: "Gangsters are cool."

HE SKOOLED YOU! HE FUKKIN' SKOOLED YOU! OOOOOOOOOOOOOON YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


More seriously, new Reno is one of the ebst things about FO series. It has some of the ebst role-playing ever.

On top of that, FO1 has lots of ridiculously l0llzy stuff.


Oh noess.. you foiled my plans by being smart while my smart scientyists and myseflw ere dumb so I'm gonna commit suicide now! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[EG]

And we get into the perpetual fight of "It had great roleplaying" verses "But it didn't fit the setting!"

Sigh.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Never change, Volly.

 

[Black_Willow]

Volourn, you're the ebst.

 

[Papa Môlé]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

Well a group as ugly, insecure, and resentful as nerds is sure to hate creatures as beautiful and sublime as elves.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

Well a group as ugly, insecure, and resentful as nerds is sure to hate creatures as beautiful and sublime as elves.

 

[Papa Môlé]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

Well a group as ugly, insecure, and resentful as nerds is sure to hate creatures as beautiful and sublime as elves.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

chris avellone hates elves too!

Everyone hates elves.

Well a group as ugly, insecure, and resentful as nerds is sure to hate creatures as beautiful and sublime as elves.

 

[HanoverF]

I like how he claims to have open world ocd, having to do/get everything, then he walks in circles four or five times and completely misses the crashed plane and cave.