Project GODUS, the ultimate Peter Molyneux fiasco

[LeStryfe79]

Screw this man, his ego, his lies, his conceit and his stupid gimmicks.

 

[shihonage]

Project JESUS

Starring: Jesus as Peter Molyneux

 

[Dexter]

BTW, any decent Theme Hospital / Dungeon Keeper worthy games out there?

Nothing recent, but if you haven't played it, Startopia is definitely worth it: http://af.gog.com/gamecard/startopia?as=1649904300

Also, Space Colony has recently gotten a HD Patch and the game wasn't too bad either: http://af.gog.com/gamecard/space_colony_hd?as=1649904300

Evil Genius is similar to Dungeon Keeper, but with the lair of a super-villain, although I didn't like it THAT much: http://af.gog.com/gamecard/evil_genius?as=1649904300

Overlord also goes in a similar direction, but is mostly an Action game.

 

[Mortmal]

No, he made some good ones (or at least was part of a team that made some good ones) twenty years ago.

Thats not really fair, those were not just good games, they were mythic legendary , unmatched. Theres nothing i can compare to the experience of the like of populous,powermonger syndicate, dungeon keeper, magic carpet...Those were wonders , i was astonished first time i saw populous, glued to my chair in front of my amiga for days .Thats the game with dungeon master that made me switch from c64 to amiga.
Cant discard all of what bullfrog done, just cause he made xbox games for a living.Its still better than beating old people for money.
So yes i back this , not much to lose anyway 15$ is nothing.

 

[Metro]

I played Populous when it first came out. Think I was... fourteen or fifteen? Very fun game, played it to death, but II wouldn't say I was amazed. Anyway, Molyneux is just another in a long line of developers who made quality products in the past and has produced shit recently. I'll believe he can make something good again when I see it.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Who the goddamn hell would throw money at a Peter Molyneaux Kickstarter, Jesus H Christ. I'm amazed he's even attempting it, but I guess I shouldn't be because he already has 32,000 pounds with 29 days to go.

Fuck.

 

[zeitgeist]

BTW, any decent Theme Hospital / Dungeon Keeper worthy games out there?

Startopia and Evil Genius, that's about it.

 

[Brayko]

What a bunch of stupid bullshit, why do I even bother keeping tabs on the industry these days?

 

[Menckenstein]

Because I know he's reading and takes criticism to heart:

 

[A user named cat]

 

[Tzaero]

Theres always a sucker for every kickstarter

 

[J_C]

Yeah I'm really sure he needs money. $30 game tier? I'll get it for $10 on sale.

You mean 15 dollar. (if you are an early donator)

No, it's 15 pounds sterling but I got the exchange rate wrong so it's more like $24ish not $30ish. The non early buyer tier is $48ish which is even more laughable.

Hm, I forgot to look at the currency. I'm used to dollar, because almost every KS use that.

But I won't support this. Not because I don't like it, I still have faith in Molyneux and I hope they will make this game. I just spent too much money on KS in the last month.

I don't know what's the hate against Molyneux. Yes, he has overpromised in the past. But he made several classics in the past. Just for that reason, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Dexter]

Thats not really fair, those were not just good games, they were mythic legendary , unmatched. Theres nothing i can compare to the experience of the like of populous,powermonger syndicate, dungeon keeper, magic carpet...Those were wonders , i was astonished first time i saw populous, glued to my chair in front of my amiga for days .Thats the game with dungeon master that made me switch from c64 to amiga.
Cant discard all of what bullfrog done, just cause he made xbox games for a living.Its still better than beating old people for money.
So yes i back this , not much to lose anyway 15$ is nothing.

http://www.gametrailers.com/e3/videos/09rpqf/e3-2012--peter-molyneux-interview

Yeah...no

 

[Metro]

So basically he'll build up 22 Cans on the back of a crowd-funded game... and turn around and sell it to some publisher and cash in again.

 

[Angthoron]

Actually, he looks rather like Larry Laffer (of the LSL series). Curious indeed.

 

[Metro]

 

[Blaine]

Delusions of Grandeux is making a new game?

I'm so excited.

 

[evdk]

Hm, I forgot to look at the currency. I'm used to dollar, because almost every KS use that.

But I won't support this. Not because I don't like it, I still have faith in Molyneux and I hope they will make this game. I just spent too much money on KS in the last month.

I don't know what's the hate against Molyneux. Yes, he has overpromised in the past. But he made several classics in the past. Just for that reason, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

He made several classic in the distant past, working in a different company where he either had no say in the development process or other people had enough say to stop him from implementing dumb ideas - either way since he became solo his games have been uniformly shit and overhyped disappointments. And it's not like he can claim to have made these games because there was no other work like some other classic devs, when n every interview he states that these are the games he always wanted to make, etc. and when he essentially got carte blanche from the publishers each and every time. And he had not overpromised, he lied through his teeth, pocketed the money and promptly started lying about the sequel - what is this bullshit newspeak that you are spouting?
Spend your money on Sui Generis or Maia or other titles that actually need it instead of a hipster confidence artist.

 

[Dexter]

Delusions of Grandeux is making a new game?

I'm so excited.

Not enough Macrotransactions and Virtual items you can buy before the game exists to get ya excited?

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

I played Populous when it first came out. Think I was... fourteen or fifteen? Very fun game, played it to death, but II wouldn't say I was amazed. Anyway, Molyneux is just another in a long line of developers who made quality products in the past and has produced shit recently. I'll believe he can make something good again when I see it.

More like he was just a PR mug taking credit for the cool work of prestigious Bullfrog peoples. I see no other explanation when comparing Bullforg games to the titles signed by his name afterwards.

 

[Grunker]

 

[skuphundaku]

I played Populous when it first came out. Think I was... fourteen or fifteen? Very fun game, played it to death, but II wouldn't say I was amazed. Anyway, Molyneux is just another in a long line of developers who made quality products in the past and has produced shit recently. I'll believe he can make something good again when I see it.

More like he was just a PR mug taking credit for the cool work of prestigious Bullfrog peoples. I see no other explanation when comparing Bullforg games to the titles signed by his name afterwards.

Well, it's more like a case of that Murphy's law that reads something like "Everybody reaches for his level of incompetence", meaning that everybody goes up the hierarchical ladder because they're competent, until they reach a point where their competence is not adequate anymore and they get stuck on that level, unable to go up because they're incompetent in their current position but not going down either because they get entrenched. Molyneaux went up quite high in an era when gaming wasn't serious business yet and settled on a level that, in the current "gaming development as serious business" context, is way above his competence level. His only saving grace, which saved him from crashing and burning like other old-timers, is that he's very jovial and well known, which makes him a very effective marketing guy.

 

[J_C]

He made several classic in the distant past, working in a different company where he either had no say in the development process

Yes, the lead designer of Populous, Dungeon Keeper and other games had no say in development. Makes total sense.

or other people had enough say to stop him from implementing dumb ideas

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe back than he didn't have dumb ideas.

- either way since he became solo his games have been uniformly shit and overhyped disappointments.

Black and White was good, Fable 1 was OK. I don't have blind hate against him just because some of his recent games were overhyped. But as I said, I won't pledge, because I'm not 100% confident either. If the game turns out good, I'll buy it.

 

[Grunker]

How many times before you guys get this?:

 

[evdk]

He made several classic in the distant past, working in a different company where he either had no say in the development process

Yes, the lead designer of Populous, Dungeon Keeper and other games had no say in development. Makes total sense.

or other people had enough say to stop him from implementing dumb ideas

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe back than he didn't have dumb ideas.

- either way since he became solo his games have been uniformly shit and overhyped disappointments.

Black and White was good, Fable 1 was OK. I don't have blind hate against him just because some of his recent games were overhyped. But as I said, I won't pledge, because I'm not 100% confident either. If the game turns out good, I'll buy it.

There is a obvious disconnect between the quality of Bullfrog titles and Molyneaux's solo stuff, even if you think some of his games were OK (they were not) they cannot hold a candle to the classics like Populous. He obviously was not the great designer he built himself up to be and lot of Bullfrog success was the work of other people which he shamelessly takes credit for when ovepromising (haha) on his latest masterpiece.