Project Tamriel & Tamriel Rebuilt - Morrowind modders keep chugging along

[ind33d]

Beth doesn't get enough credit for cell-based engines future-proofing their games for stuff like OpenMW

 

[deuxhero]

That's because Bethesda was amazingly incapable of current-proofing their engine in virtually ever other aspect (no culling of stuff outside the player's view). They essentially just got lucky.

 

[frajaq]

Sooooo does anyone know where the Thieves Guild in Anvil is? I hope its not this locked door upstairs Sailors Fluke...

e: it actually is, fuck

 

[CootKeeper]

If anyone is playing with MWSE and hasn't noticed it yet, there's custom weather now. You should experience the occasional tropical storm. Now I'm not the one who did the work, but I was the one who showed them it was possible after getting told "nu uh" so you're all welcome.

But they've started to embrace lua, which is great because it opens up tons of opportunities to do some really cool shit. OpenMW just needs to catch up so there can be feature parity. Other shit that I'm aware of is the insight spell, among other new spell types, which is supposed to be useful in solving quests. Think there might even be some kind of speak to the dead spell iirc. Again, lots of cool opportunities to make skills useful elsewhere and expand on existing or introduce new gameplay mechanics.

so if you were in my shoes, you would pick a mwse modlist over openmw? still undecided

I'm an MWSE supremacist so that'll always be my recommendation. It can be a more involved process than OpenMW but it comes with benefit of being more feature rich. OpenMW looks better and has a better shader model but that's where the advantages (as far as I see it) stop.

Thanks for your input. I'm gonna stick with MWSE for now, it's just easier for me to play with as i'm used to it after so many years. But I think I'll install openMW on a separate install just to have a look at it and use it with Starwind

when will openMW 0.49 release? there seems to be builds every day or so (!) not sure how people keep up to date

 

[Funposter]

The cool thing about being a mage is that you can cheese your way through sprawling dungeons and abuse summons and pathfinding to make it to the end even at Level 5. The bad thing about doing this is that you accidentally come across 300,000 gold worth of loot and completely break the game's progression.

Spoiler

There were some extra bits of Adamantium and Orcish that I equipped on my character, too. And an Ebony Shortsword that I didn't touch, because I'm pretty sure it was cursed and I had completely run out of restore magicka potions.

 

[frajaq]

Completed two Anvil Fighters Guild quests (before I knew they existed) just by exploring the game

 

[CootKeeper]

If anyone is playing with MWSE and hasn't noticed it yet, there's custom weather now. You should experience the occasional tropical storm. Now I'm not the one who did the work, but I was the one who showed them it was possible after getting told "nu uh" so you're all welcome.

But they've started to embrace lua, which is great because it opens up tons of opportunities to do some really cool shit. OpenMW just needs to catch up so there can be feature parity. Other shit that I'm aware of is the insight spell, among other new spell types, which is supposed to be useful in solving quests. Think there might even be some kind of speak to the dead spell iirc. Again, lots of cool opportunities to make skills useful elsewhere and expand on existing or introduce new gameplay mechanics.

so if you were in my shoes, you would pick a mwse modlist over openmw? still undecided

I'm an MWSE supremacist so that'll always be my recommendation. It can be a more involved process than OpenMW but it comes with benefit of being more feature rich. OpenMW looks better and has a better shader model but that's where the advantages (as far as I see it) stop.

Thanks for your input. I'm gonna stick with MWSE for now, it's just easier for me to play with as i'm used to it after so many years. But I think I'll install openMW on a separate install just to have a look at it and use it with Starwind

when will openMW 0.49 release? there seems to be builds every day or so (!) not sure how people keep up to date

to answer my own question

0.49 RC1 is here: https://github.com/OpenMW/openmw/releases/tag/openmw-49-rc1

 

[I eat frozen vegetables]

If anyone is playing with MWSE and hasn't noticed it yet, there's custom weather now. You should experience the occasional tropical storm. Now I'm not the one who did the work, but I was the one who showed them it was possible after getting told "nu uh" so you're all welcome.

But they've started to embrace lua, which is great because it opens up tons of opportunities to do some really cool shit. OpenMW just needs to catch up so there can be feature parity. Other shit that I'm aware of is the insight spell, among other new spell types, which is supposed to be useful in solving quests. Think there might even be some kind of speak to the dead spell iirc. Again, lots of cool opportunities to make skills useful elsewhere and expand on existing or introduce new gameplay mechanics.

so if you were in my shoes, you would pick a mwse modlist over openmw? still undecided

I'm an MWSE supremacist so that'll always be my recommendation. It can be a more involved process than OpenMW but it comes with benefit of being more feature rich. OpenMW looks better and has a better shader model but that's where the advantages (as far as I see it) stop.

Thanks for your input. I'm gonna stick with MWSE for now, it's just easier for me to play with as i'm used to it after so many years. But I think I'll install openMW on a separate install just to have a look at it and use it with Starwind

when will openMW 0.49 release? there seems to be builds every day or so (!) not sure how people keep up to date

to answer my own question

0.49 RC1 is here: https://github.com/OpenMW/openmw/releases/tag/openmw-49-rc1

And here is their article on their website. https://openmw.org/2025/openmw-0-49-0-is-now-in-rc-phase/

 

[Brancaleone]

All right! Last RC phase lasted only ... *checks notes* ...

... ten months!

 

[Funposter]

Realised that I didn't update TR for that Nord playthrough I mentioned, so I had to start over. Playing through the Cyrodiil Mages Guild and Kingdom of Anvil at the moment after having done a good chunk of mainland Morrowind Mages Guild content, and thoroughly enjoying both. Fashionwind is going very strong. Sort of LARPy but in basically every quest, I try to pick the option that benefits Imperial society the most or somehow damns elves. It's quite amusing that the game is freeform and robust enough for you to create these sorts of little stories about your character.

But she's got a new hat!

 

[frajaq]

the drip and swag of Telvanni lords are unreal

He tried to scam me 5000g for some notes so I just stole it and a bunch of nice stuff from him

 

[Funposter]

I'm frankly shocked at the amount of content in the Abecean Shores release. I think I went to Cyrodiil at Level 8 or so, and I'm now Level 15 or 16 and haven't quite completed everything that I intended to do. One of the Kingdom of Anvil quests involves delving into a Dreugh citadel, which was interesting but I'm definitely dreading doing the one for the Almas Thirr Mages Guild, knowing that it's like two or three times the size. I think they're conceptually quite cool, but mechanically they leave a lot to be desired. A dungeon which involves swimming for the entire time is not very much fun. It's probably not as big a deal for melee characters, but as a Sorcerer character who summons creatures and likes to fling spells from afar, you lose a lot of your tools. The Dreugh Queen encounter was just sitting in place, casting spells and chugging lots of potions. At least I got a pair of Daedric Boots!

He tried to scam me 5000g for some notes so I just stole it and a bunch of nice stuff from him

Yeah, I stole all of the dickhead's stuff by hiding behind static objects and using telekinesis.

 

[thesheeep]

I am once again asking for your support.

Given the crazy amount of content in this mod, I've been wondering where one should go/start - or maybe NOT go/start - if the intention is to have a playthrough starting from lvl 1 (or, well, whatever low level you can realistically be getting there if you start the default vanilla way).

A bunch of years ago, I went to the mainland after alreading doing a good chunk of vanilla content, and that was just an awful experience because nothing was a challenge. But I'm not sure if I was just unlucky or the entire mod is more meant as "play this instead of vanilla".

 

[thesecret1]

I am once again asking for your support.

Given the crazy amount of content in this mod, I've been wondering where one should go/start - or maybe NOT go/start - if the intention is to have a playthrough starting from lvl 1 (or, well, whatever low level you can realistically be getting there if you start the default vanilla way).

A bunch of years ago, I went to the mainland after alreading doing a good chunk of vanilla content, and that was just an awful experience because nothing was a challenge. But I'm not sure if I was just unlucky or the entire mod is more meant as "play this instead of vanilla".

The mod has areas of different difficulty ranging from stuff for level 1 all the way to endgame stuff. You can mix and match it with vanilla however you want; I usually just ignore vanilla entirely and play only on the mainland. For lvl1 content, head to Old Ebonheart

 

[wwsd]

There is a map for zone difficulty, but it's probably badly outdated. Can't go wrong starting in Old Ebonheart though. Besides that, I think there's even a village that's analogous to Seyda Neen.

 

[deuxhero]

I am once again asking for your support.

Given the crazy amount of content in this mod, I've been wondering where one should go/start - or maybe NOT go/start - if the intention is to have a playthrough starting from lvl 1 (or, well, whatever low level you can realistically be getting there if you start the default vanilla way).

A bunch of years ago, I went to the mainland after alreading doing a good chunk of vanilla content, and that was just an awful experience because nothing was a challenge. But I'm not sure if I was just unlucky or the entire mod is more meant as "play this instead of vanilla".

Morrowind in general doesn't have zone difficulty, it has area type difficulty (something NPCs will be quite clear about if you ask around in vanilla). Outdoors, on the road, you're generally not at serious risk from anything almost anywhere. Outdoors off the road there's a chance of some real threats, but unless you're in the ashlands, daedra occupied part of grazelands, or Red Mountain they're low. Low difficulty dungeons include smuggler caves. The next level up from that has grottos (can be easy, but potential dreugh spawn, sheer ammount of slaughterfish, and wanting waterbreathing put them a rung higher), ancestral tombs (provided you have an enchanted weapon or destruction magic). After that you've got Dwemer, infected mines, random Velothi towers (though few aren't quest related), and at the very top you've got Daedric Shrines and Sixth House Bases.

Of course, Morrowind being Morrowind, it's plenty easy for a knowledgeable player to "break into" higher level dungeons early with careful planning or blowing consumables. That's OK.

 

[Maggot]

I am once again asking for your support.

Given the crazy amount of content in this mod, I've been wondering where one should go/start - or maybe NOT go/start - if the intention is to have a playthrough starting from lvl 1 (or, well, whatever low level you can realistically be getting there if you start the default vanilla way).

A bunch of years ago, I went to the mainland after alreading doing a good chunk of vanilla content, and that was just an awful experience because nothing was a challenge. But I'm not sure if I was just unlucky or the entire mod is more meant as "play this instead of vanilla".

Old Ebonheart makes for a fun start and the guild quests will generally guide you to new areas just like in the vanilla game so I would just do those. I would also recommend avoiding the really old 2006/2008 areas as they're not as good as the newer stuff.