Ontopoly
Disco Hitler
This is the same guy who set his kingmaker playthrough to automatic kingdom building and then complained about not being able to manage his kingdom.
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Real-Time with Pause is Garbag...eh forgetit.
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Variety is good.
RTwP: you play a party, pause the game, execute orders and everyone, including the enemy, move simultaneously and you can react and adjust actions on the fly.
Good for simulating the chaos of a battle, but on the downside it can also lead to frustrating clusterfuck and it's easy to misclick and can be hard to keep track of things in large battles.
Phase based (or whatever the correct term is): You issue orders to all your party members and then hit the "start combat round" button, and in a more complex system you and the enemy take turns acording to individual initiative, while in a simpler system each side acts in turn.
The fun thing about this system is that you have to anticipate what your enemies will do, and try to allocate enough strenght to various threats. Like how many fighter types do you need to kill that lone high level enemy spell caster, and how many Fireballs do you need on that group of low level enemy spell casters?
Standard turn based: Each character acts in turn, usually based on Initative. So your first fighter didn't kill off that enemy spell caster, so your next one takes a swing too. Not very complex or demanding, and probably easier to design and program.
All of these systems work for me, but at the end of the day the actual system used does not matter much if the encounter design is boring.
It's good for those easy trash fights. With AI on they take only a few seconds.
RTwP: you play a party, pause the game, execute orders and everyone, including the enemy, move simultaneously and you can react and adjust actions on the fly.
Good for simulating the chaos of a battle, but on the downside it can also lead to frustrating clusterfuck and it's easy to misclick and can be hard to keep track of things in large battles.
Phase based (or whatever the correct term is): You issue orders to all your party members and then hit the "start combat round" button, and in a more complex system you and the enemy take turns acording to individual initiative, while in a simpler system each side acts in turn.
The fun thing about this system is that you have to anticipate what your enemies will do, and try to allocate enough strenght to various threats. Like how many fighter types do you need to kill that lone high level enemy spell caster, and how many Fireballs do you need on that group of low level enemy spell casters?
Standard turn based: Each character acts in turn, usually based on Initative. So your first fighter didn't kill off that enemy spell caster, so your next one takes a swing too. Not very complex or demanding, and probably easier to design and program.
All of these systems work for me, but at the end of the day the actual system used does not matter much if the encounter design is boring.
It's good for those easy trash fights. With AI on they take only a few seconds.
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This guy shit on Underrail?
Larianshill
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Didn't watch the video, he's entirely correct. Real time with pause is trash, and turn based is the superior way of playing RPGs.
Sweeper
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Eventually you'll all regret not banning Larianfags on sight.
Mark my words.
barghwata
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I don't see what all the butthurt in this thread is about, the video is mostly good and he makes some good points here and there (except for the part when he bitches about party AI triggering AOOs when he could just deactivate it, that was fucking dumb), and he even says in the end that RTwP has its advantages and can be amazing if done correctly; which is true but for some reason rpg devs are stuck in the past and would much rather just make another shitty iteration of baldur's gate's combat instead of taking the system in a new direction or innovating.
If you want an example of a RTwP combat system done right in an rpg just play 7.62 High Calibre, in fact i would go as far as to say that people who haven't played it don't even know what good rtwp combat looks like.
If you want an example of a RTwP combat system done right in an rpg just play 7.62 High Calibre, in fact i would go as far as to say that people who haven't played it don't even know what good rtwp combat looks like.
Give me more good examples.
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X-COM Apocalypse
Ontopoly
Disco Hitler
Gimmick accounts are pathetic. You are pathetic
Larianshill
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I was not being sarcastic or ironic.
Sweeper
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Ontopoly
Disco Hitler
Nobody thought you were. You're pathetic without having to rely on sarcasm or irony
barghwata
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I wish i knew more
there is also Brigade E5 made by the same devs, but it's really just a less polished version of high calibre, if you want good rtwp combat you're better off looking for it in tactical games then in rpgs.
Grampy_Bone
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hbomberguy is the classic poncey pole-smoking bong-twit (see also: Jim Stirling, now Jane?). no idea why people listen to him, he's not funny and looks constantly either high or inbetween bouts of anal fisting.
is strat-edgy the guy who fills his videos with random asides about his poor upbringing and muh capitalism? yeah no thanks.
is strat-edgy the guy who fills his videos with random asides about his poor upbringing and muh capitalism? yeah no thanks.
HansDampf
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That's how I remember him.
Ontopoly
Disco Hitler
Op is a little Bitch who should have his thread making privileges taken away. He realised nobody liked the video his idol posted do he's quivering behind some meme video. What a pussy.Am i the only one who sees some tranny in a store in the OP?
I was a little disappointed to see that one of the last bastion of good cRPGs, Codexians can't realise how shitty RTWP can be. It was also surprising, because the video has good points (e.g action queues - just see how great 7.62 is which uses this feature). So yeah, I decided to edit out the video for the lulz.He realised nobody liked the video his idol posted do he's quivering behind some meme video. What a pussy.Am i the only one who sees some tranny in a store in the OP?
You don't know who are you deeling with. I'm one of the pillars of RPG Codex, untouchable! I know this is hard to swallow, but you are just an Ontopoly, not a J_C. Deal with it.
Gnidrologist
CONDUCTOR
Yes. It's pretty good representation of rtwp dumbfuckery. Swell analysis.Am i the only one who sees some tranny in a store in the OP?
Heroic Liberator
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