Vapourware Realms Beyond: Ashes of the Fallen - Chaos Chronicles reborn and dead again

[NJClaw]

That rule let me to be satisfied with not supporting Solasta

But what if they needed exactly 10 more euros to fix the difficulty, encounter design, quest structure AND faces?

 

[The Wall]

"So, what's the sitch?"
As many's favourite redhead to jerk off during their Disney teen years, Kim Possible, used to say

The situation is as follows: Realms Beyond is dead! Long live Realms Beyond? Truly a story about phoenix and german autism. So Ceres Games is officially RIP. Someone closed it down, filed for bankruptcy. That someone is most likely a famous (or fabled) Ghost CEO. We were informed about that few days ago by HobGoblin on Discord. Here is picture from German company register proving that:

Now, let's start honking[!] Honk #1: Company that is 50% owned by HobGoblin, and where he is equal partner, went bankrupt. Bankruptcy was declared on 9.3.2022. HobGoblin found out about it around 20.5.2022. Two and half months later. HONK! He said "how again no-one informed him about anything". wait. Wait. Waiiiiit! How the fuck there is no mechanism in german law system with its autism settings set on: MAX BUREAUCRACY, that you don't get informed by anyone that company you HALF own is dead?! Not even by your own lawyer, on which he admitted to have spent close to 10.000€. Honk #2. Name of Liquidator who's supposed to close down company properly, pay off all creditors and sell all company assests is Timothy Drude. Can you guess what is name of Ghost CEO? The one because of which they stopped all development, who ruined at least two deals with publishers and one who returns no calls nor responds to no emails for over two years? A supposed creator of this entire Chaos. Timothy Drude. HONK!

But how?! Well, according to german law, sitting CEO usually becomes Liquidator. Ok. Very ze well. If that is so, then why the fuck did your lawyer didn't ze tell you that? Why you filed NO, ZERO, NADA lawsuits against him, so to prevent him from becoming Liquidator by default, because of conflict of interests a judge would chose a state representative, as third neutral party to lead liquidation process? Why the FUCK, did you give up a position of CEO, position of power, privilege and decision making (Hob used to be CEO)?! That's never done in business! Back then, explanation on Discord was that "bureaucracy and paperwork was killing him" and "he couldn't focus on programming". Paperwork for company that had during peak months of Realms Beyond development 5-7 employees? All that heavy paperwork, that could have been outsourced to accountant and decison making powers kept. Nigga, who you trying to bullshit?!

Anyway. Now we are reaching a truly interesting part of this story. An opportunity for shitposting, for action, for adventure. Both remaining devs on Discord are barely active in last few days since the news dropped. They were directly asked: What's the plan of action now? No response. My idea is: Let's go Ghost Hunting! Let's contact Ghost CEO over his LinkedIn page (I'll post the link) and if assets and copyrights of Realms Beyond haven't already been sold, let's mask ourselves as Hentai Devs, tell how we'd love to use 3D models, animations etc. for our Hentai RPG, and buy Realms Beyond off!!! It can't be worth much (~10.000€ is my estimate) and then we can cuck HobGoblin, and since he owns the engine, music, some maps/quests and worldbuilding, make him our slave, We as RPG CODEX becomes CEO of new company, and drama development continues. We make new gaming company somewhere where programmers and artists are good and cheap (Balkan), we resurrect Chris Avellone and make him Lead Writer and Creative Director, HobGoblin can be code monkey, we'll pay him in bananas, and we even find private investors*. What new company, which will be called RPG CODEX Gaming (for maximum butthurt among gaming journalist and Redditors) will have as its mission? MAKE RPGS GREAT AGAIN and build Arcanum 2! It can be done

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY


*I was in talks with rich based boomer investor from this forum who was interested in exactly that

 

[sigard]

So Ceres Games is officially RIP

Thank god.

 

[vazha]

"So, what's the sitch?"
An opportunity for shitposting, for action, for adventure.

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY

Count me in. Ready to pledge / become a shareholder.

 

[Mortmal]

Oh I fully trust incompetence and not ill will was at play here. Massive, astronomical, tank-three-projects levels of incompetence

Still a good reason not to give him any money.

You have to view my comments in this thread in a very optimistic light to think I was arguing for that. I'm the one who argued against giving money to even The Realms Beyond kickstarter because even back when they launched I warned about feature creep and a team that hadn't proven itself capable of managing a schedule. I had a discussion with JF about exactly that.

Yet there's indie able to pull something like that. Kotc2 combat and AI is superior to anything planned in the hypothetic realms beyond with a lone guy living on roots. Solasta fullfill its promises too , a very small budget, yet it release delivering exactly what they said in their pitch. it's not flawless, encounters far too easy , but there's no scam and it was a very ambitious project too.

 

[The Wall]

Agreed! Actually competent programmers with passion for RPGs (or coupled with good gameplay designers) can do wonders! It's insane that nowadays cRPGs offer so little in terms of gameplay & story compared to legendary cRPGs from 20 years ago. Technology is so much better, why aren't RPGs too?

Also: 100.000€ they got on their Kickstarter simply don't have same value in Germany and in Serbia/ Croatia/ Bulgaria. Underrail was made for less then that. Much less

 

[The Wall]

Needless to say, RPG CODEX Gaming.LLC would be 0% WOKE and 100% BASED gaming company. Also I would personally invest money and unironically offer Chris Avellone to be Creative Director and Lead Writer. I'd contact him via Codex/Twitter. Rape allegations are a + in CV for us

 

[Bester]

If that guy truly wanted to sabotage the project, he'll never sell you the assets.

 

[Tacgnol]

"So, what's the sitch?"
As many's favourite redhead to jerk off during their Disney teen years, Kim Possible, used to say

The situation is as follows: Realms Beyond is dead! Long live Realms Beyond? Truly a story about phoenix and german autism. So Ceres Games is officially RIP. Someone closed it down, filed for bankruptcy. That someone is most likely a famous (or fabled) Ghost CEO. We were informed about that few days ago by HobGoblin on Discord. Here is picture from German company register proving that:

Now, let's start honking[!] Honk #1: Company that is 50% owned by HobGoblin, and where he is equal partner, went bankrupt. Bankruptcy was declared on 9.3.2022. HobGoblin found out about it around 20.5.2022. Two and half months later. HONK! He said "how again no-one informed him about anything". wait. Wait. Waiiiiit! How the fuck there is no mechanism in german law system with its autism settings set on: MAX BUREAUCRACY, that you don't get informed by anyone that company you HALF own is dead?! Not even by your own lawyer, on which he admitted to have spent close to 10.000€. Honk #2. Name of Liquidator who's supposed to close down company properly, pay off all creditors and sell all company assests is Timothy Drude. Can you guess what is name of Ghost CEO? The one because of which they stopped all development, who ruined at least two deals with publishers and one who returns no calls nor responds to no emails for over two years? A supposed creator of this entire Chaos. Timothy Drude. HONK!

But how?! Well, according to german law, sitting CEO usually becomes Liquidator. Ok. Very ze well. If that is so, then why the fuck did your lawyer didn't ze tell you that? Why you filed NO, ZERO, NADA lawsuits against him, so to prevent him from becoming Liquidator by default, because of conflict of interests a judge would chose a state representative, as third neutral party to lead liquidation process? Why the FUCK, did you give up a position of CEO, position of power, privilege and decision making (Hob used to be CEO)?! That's never done in business! Back then, explanation on Discord was that "bureaucracy and paperwork was killing him" and "he couldn't focus on programming". Paperwork for company that had during peak months of Realms Beyond development 5-7 employees? All that heavy paperwork, that could have been outsourced to accountant and decison making powers kept. Nigga, who you trying to bullshit?!

Anyway. Now we are reaching a truly interesting part of this story. An opportunity for shitposting, for action, for adventure. Both remaining devs on Discord are barely active in last few days since the news dropped. They were directly asked: What's the plan of action now? No response. My idea is: Let's go Ghost Hunting! Let's contact Ghost CEO over his LinkedIn page (I'll post the link) and if assets and copyrights of Realms Beyond haven't already been sold, let's mask ourselves as Hentai Devs, tell how we'd love to use 3D models, animations etc. for our Hentai RPG, and buy Realms Beyond off!!! It can't be worth much (~10.000€ is my estimate) and then we can cuck HobGoblin, and since he owns the engine, music, some maps/quests and worldbuilding, make him our slave, We as RPG CODEX becomes CEO of new company, and drama development continues. We make new gaming company somewhere where programmers and artists are good and cheap (Balkan), we resurrect Chris Avellone and make him Lead Writer and Creative Director, HobGoblin can be code monkey, we'll pay him in bananas, and we even find private investors*. What new company, which will be called RPG CODEX Gaming (for maximum butthurt among gaming journalist and Redditors) will have as its mission? MAKE RPGS GREAT AGAIN and build Arcanum 2! It can be done

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY


*I was in talks with rich based boomer investor from this forum who was interested in exactly that

I must admit, the thought of this farce continuing to provide drama and butthurt brings me much joy.

Chaos Chronicles, the franchise that refuses to die gracefully.

 

[The Wall]

If that guy truly wanted to sabotage the project, he'll never sell you the assets.

Agreed. That's why we'd wear mask of Hentai RPG Devs. Offering him some money for assets (can't and won't be much cause demand is low) and then using said assets in some ungodly hentai wet game? That might seem like nice final revenge and deal to him


Also it neither costs nor hurts to contact the guy
This is his LinkedIn page btw: Timothy Drude

 

[Nikanuur]

"So, what's the sitch?"
As many's favourite redhead to jerk off during their Disney teen years, Kim Possible, used to say

The situation is as follows: Realms Beyond is dead! Long live Realms Beyond? Truly a story about phoenix and german autism. So Ceres Games is officially RIP. Someone closed it down, filed for bankruptcy. That someone is most likely a famous (or fabled) Ghost CEO. We were informed about that few days ago by HobGoblin on Discord. Here is picture from German company register proving that:

Now, let's start honking[!] Honk #1: Company that is 50% owned by HobGoblin, and where he is equal partner, went bankrupt. Bankruptcy was declared on 9.3.2022. HobGoblin found out about it around 20.5.2022. Two and half months later. HONK! He said "how again no-one informed him about anything". wait. Wait. Waiiiiit! How the fuck there is no mechanism in german law system with its autism settings set on: MAX BUREAUCRACY, that you don't get informed by anyone that company you HALF own is dead?! Not even by your own lawyer, on which he admitted to have spent close to 10.000€. Honk #2. Name of Liquidator who's supposed to close down company properly, pay off all creditors and sell all company assests is Timothy Drude. Can you guess what is name of Ghost CEO? The one because of which they stopped all development, who ruined at least two deals with publishers and one who returns no calls nor responds to no emails for over two years? A supposed creator of this entire Chaos. Timothy Drude. HONK!

But how?! Well, according to german law, sitting CEO usually becomes Liquidator. Ok. Very ze well. If that is so, then why the fuck did your lawyer didn't ze tell you that? Why you filed NO, ZERO, NADA lawsuits against him, so to prevent him from becoming Liquidator by default, because of conflict of interests a judge would chose a state representative, as third neutral party to lead liquidation process? Why the FUCK, did you give up a position of CEO, position of power, privilege and decision making (Hob used to be CEO)?! That's never done in business! Back then, explanation on Discord was that "bureaucracy and paperwork was killing him" and "he couldn't focus on programming". Paperwork for company that had during peak months of Realms Beyond development 5-7 employees? All that heavy paperwork, that could have been outsourced to accountant and decison making powers kept. Nigga, who you trying to bullshit?!

Anyway. Now we are reaching a truly interesting part of this story. An opportunity for shitposting, for action, for adventure. Both remaining devs on Discord are barely active in last few days since the news dropped. They were directly asked: What's the plan of action now? No response. My idea is: Let's go Ghost Hunting! Let's contact Ghost CEO over his LinkedIn page (I'll post the link) and if assets and copyrights of Realms Beyond haven't already been sold, let's mask ourselves as Hentai Devs, tell how we'd love to use 3D models, animations etc. for our Hentai RPG, and buy Realms Beyond off!!! It can't be worth much (~10.000€ is my estimate) and then we can cuck HobGoblin, and since he owns the engine, music, some maps/quests and worldbuilding, make him our slave, We as RPG CODEX becomes CEO of new company, and drama development continues. We make new gaming company somewhere where programmers and artists are good and cheap (Balkan), we resurrect Chris Avellone and make him Lead Writer and Creative Director, HobGoblin can be code monkey, we'll pay him in bananas, and we even find private investors*. What new company, which will be called RPG CODEX Gaming (for maximum butthurt among gaming journalist and Redditors) will have as its mission? MAKE RPGS GREAT AGAIN and build Arcanum 2! It can be done

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY


*I was in talks with rich based boomer investor from this forum who was interested in exactly that

I disdain all dze unnecessary strengspräche, but dzere comes a taime, when a man has to say, to dze hell with dzet! Count me and mein ten dollars in!

 

[mediocrepoet]

HobGoblin can be code monkey, we'll pay him in bananas

Counter proposal: He has failed us for the last time. We flay him and leave him to find his fate on the burning sands of the Sahara.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

If that guy truly wanted to sabotage the project, he'll never sell you the assets.

The narrative "The co-owner of my own company wanted to sabotage our project so he started ghosting us for months (forcing us to complete inaction) until we had to file for bankruptcy" doesn't make ANY FUCKING SENSE.

I just can't trust this story a single bit. I'm sorry, but this goes so much past a normal case of gross incompetence that I can't help but suspect a deliberate fraud.

Let's pretend for a second this is actually what happened, what tribunal wouldn't have sided with the remaining co-owner pushing the other out of the company for inexcusable negligence and taking full control of the project?

 

[AdolfSatan]

If he truly is as dumb as he portrays himself, I propose we scam him out of his bananas too once his work is done.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

"So, what's the sitch?"
As many's favourite redhead to jerk off during their Disney teen years, Kim Possible, used to say

The situation is as follows: Realms Beyond is dead! Long live Realms Beyond? Truly a story about phoenix and german autism. So Ceres Games is officially RIP. Someone closed it down, filed for bankruptcy. That someone is most likely a famous (or fabled) Ghost CEO. We were informed about that few days ago by HobGoblin on Discord. Here is picture from German company register proving that:

Now, let's start honking[!] Honk #1: Company that is 50% owned by HobGoblin, and where he is equal partner, went bankrupt. Bankruptcy was declared on 9.3.2022. HobGoblin found out about it around 20.5.2022. Two and half months later. HONK! He said "how again no-one informed him about anything". wait. Wait. Waiiiiit! How the fuck there is no mechanism in german law system with its autism settings set on: MAX BUREAUCRACY, that you don't get informed by anyone that company you HALF own is dead?! Not even by your own lawyer, on which he admitted to have spent close to 10.000€. Honk #2. Name of Liquidator who's supposed to close down company properly, pay off all creditors and sell all company assests is Timothy Drude. Can you guess what is name of Ghost CEO? The one because of which they stopped all development, who ruined at least two deals with publishers and one who returns no calls nor responds to no emails for over two years? A supposed creator of this entire Chaos. Timothy Drude. HONK!

But how?! Well, according to german law, sitting CEO usually becomes Liquidator. Ok. Very ze well. If that is so, then why the fuck did your lawyer didn't ze tell you that? Why you filed NO, ZERO, NADA lawsuits against him, so to prevent him from becoming Liquidator by default, because of conflict of interests a judge would chose a state representative, as third neutral party to lead liquidation process? Why the FUCK, did you give up a position of CEO, position of power, privilege and decision making (Hob used to be CEO)?! That's never done in business! Back then, explanation on Discord was that "bureaucracy and paperwork was killing him" and "he couldn't focus on programming". Paperwork for company that had during peak months of Realms Beyond development 5-7 employees? All that heavy paperwork, that could have been outsourced to accountant and decison making powers kept. Nigga, who you trying to bullshit?!

Anyway. Now we are reaching a truly interesting part of this story. An opportunity for shitposting, for action, for adventure. Both remaining devs on Discord are barely active in last few days since the news dropped. They were directly asked: What's the plan of action now? No response. My idea is: Let's go Ghost Hunting! Let's contact Ghost CEO over his LinkedIn page (I'll post the link) and if assets and copyrights of Realms Beyond haven't already been sold, let's mask ourselves as Hentai Devs, tell how we'd love to use 3D models, animations etc. for our Hentai RPG, and buy Realms Beyond off!!! It can't be worth much (~10.000€ is my estimate) and then we can cuck HobGoblin, and since he owns the engine, music, some maps/quests and worldbuilding, make him our slave, We as RPG CODEX becomes CEO of new company, and drama development continues. We make new gaming company somewhere where programmers and artists are good and cheap (Balkan), we resurrect Chris Avellone and make him Lead Writer and Creative Director, HobGoblin can be code monkey, we'll pay him in bananas, and we even find private investors*. What new company, which will be called RPG CODEX Gaming (for maximum butthurt among gaming journalist and Redditors) will have as its mission? MAKE RPGS GREAT AGAIN and build Arcanum 2! It can be done

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY


*I was in talks with rich based boomer investor from this forum who was interested in exactly that

Sure we can even give JarlFrank his job back.

 

[OracleX]

hack and and claim all resources for the community.
much like how they took the KS monies for themselfs.
fair trade no?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Inb4 it turns out that "all resources" is that demo + a coupon for 36 cents off at Taco Bell.

 

[Contagium]

"So, what's the sitch?"
As many's favourite redhead to jerk off during their Disney teen years, Kim Possible, used to say

The situation is as follows: Realms Beyond is dead! Long live Realms Beyond? Truly a story about phoenix and german autism. So Ceres Games is officially RIP. Someone closed it down, filed for bankruptcy. That someone is most likely a famous (or fabled) Ghost CEO. We were informed about that few days ago by HobGoblin on Discord. Here is picture from German company register proving that:

Now, let's start honking[!] Honk #1: Company that is 50% owned by HobGoblin, and where he is equal partner, went bankrupt. Bankruptcy was declared on 9.3.2022. HobGoblin found out about it around 20.5.2022. Two and half months later. HONK! He said "how again no-one informed him about anything". wait. Wait. Waiiiiit! How the fuck there is no mechanism in german law system with its autism settings set on: MAX BUREAUCRACY, that you don't get informed by anyone that company you HALF own is dead?! Not even by your own lawyer, on which he admitted to have spent close to 10.000€. Honk #2. Name of Liquidator who's supposed to close down company properly, pay off all creditors and sell all company assests is Timothy Drude. Can you guess what is name of Ghost CEO? The one because of which they stopped all development, who ruined at least two deals with publishers and one who returns no calls nor responds to no emails for over two years? A supposed creator of this entire Chaos. Timothy Drude. HONK!

But how?! Well, according to german law, sitting CEO usually becomes Liquidator. Ok. Very ze well. If that is so, then why the fuck did your lawyer didn't ze tell you that? Why you filed NO, ZERO, NADA lawsuits against him, so to prevent him from becoming Liquidator by default, because of conflict of interests a judge would chose a state representative, as third neutral party to lead liquidation process? Why the FUCK, did you give up a position of CEO, position of power, privilege and decision making (Hob used to be CEO)?! That's never done in business! Back then, explanation on Discord was that "bureaucracy and paperwork was killing him" and "he couldn't focus on programming". Paperwork for company that had during peak months of Realms Beyond development 5-7 employees? All that heavy paperwork, that could have been outsourced to accountant and decison making powers kept. Nigga, who you trying to bullshit?!

Anyway. Now we are reaching a truly interesting part of this story. An opportunity for shitposting, for action, for adventure. Both remaining devs on Discord are barely active in last few days since the news dropped. They were directly asked: What's the plan of action now? No response. My idea is: Let's go Ghost Hunting! Let's contact Ghost CEO over his LinkedIn page (I'll post the link) and if assets and copyrights of Realms Beyond haven't already been sold, let's mask ourselves as Hentai Devs, tell how we'd love to use 3D models, animations etc. for our Hentai RPG, and buy Realms Beyond off!!! It can't be worth much (~10.000€ is my estimate) and then we can cuck HobGoblin, and since he owns the engine, music, some maps/quests and worldbuilding, make him our slave, We as RPG CODEX becomes CEO of new company, and drama development continues. We make new gaming company somewhere where programmers and artists are good and cheap (Balkan), we resurrect Chris Avellone and make him Lead Writer and Creative Director, HobGoblin can be code monkey, we'll pay him in bananas, and we even find private investors*. What new company, which will be called RPG CODEX Gaming (for maximum butthurt among gaming journalist and Redditors) will have as its mission? MAKE RPGS GREAT AGAIN and build Arcanum 2! It can be done

What shall ye say, my fellow ShitLords?
Are we CEO now? Ready for Adventure of Life? YAY or NAY


*I was in talks with rich based boomer investor from this forum who was interested in exactly that

 

[Tacgnol]

Inb4 it turns out that "all resources" is that demo + a coupon for 36 cents off at Taco Bell.

Well we've fallen for the scam that is Chaos Chronicles multiple times at this point.

In for a penny...

 

[Duraframe300]

Inb4 it turns out that "all resources" is that demo + a coupon for 36 cents off at Taco Bell.

I'm going to be that guy to point out that Taco Bell isn't really a thing in Germany.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Inb4 it turns out that "all resources" is that demo + a coupon for 36 cents off at Taco Bell.

I'm going to be that guy to point out that Taco Bell isn't really a thing in Germany.

Then ask how the dude in charge accepted that and put in in the company's assets book.

 

[underground nymph]

Codex funded and managed project, what could possibly go wrong hmmm

 

[Tacgnol]

Codex funded and managed project, what could possibly go wrong hmmm

Sounds like another exciting chapter in the train wreck that is Chaos Chronicles.

The drama surrounding this game has provided more entertainment so far than the game itself ever will.

 

[Bester]

I would possibly like to license the assets from whoever holds them, either for a flat fee, or for rev-shares and make my own RPG. I'd code the engine myself.

I don't think they'll sell anything to any of us. But if they were to sell them, I'd really appreciate you guys not sitting on these assets. Either let a few independent teams give it a try at making a game, or put them up on unity asset store for a hefty price. The latter would pay off within a year.

 

[Sitra Achara]

Codex funded and managed project, what could possibly go wrong hmmm

No need to wonder:
https://www.fanmadefallout.com/