Red Dead Redemption 2 - now available on PC

[Wyatt_Derp]

I'm like... not enjoying this much at all? Everything is so fucking clunky, like the main character has arthritis, and there's all this random bullshit you need to do that takes 5 different prompts to get through. Hold tab, press R, click on X, let go of tab, hold B to use, press R to pick-up. Like jesus fucking christ this could all be done very simply with a menu click and the E key. The shooting is obviously balanced around auto-targeting and getting mobbed by three wolves is a pain in the ass. Why do I have to press shift five times to go fast, and then he randomly slows down constantly anyway when he passes someone or something? When the fuck is it saving outside of mission checkpoints and sleeping? Why the fuck put survival mechanics in a game like this? Could the story pacing be any slower?

I'm like 5 hours in and thinking of uninstalling. GTA4/5 had some of this shit but nowhere near as bad, to my memory.

Probably an attempt by Rockstar to make console gamers feel like they're playing a PC game... 'cause e-mmurshion.

I've heard you can even take off your hat and dust it off. The Mortal Kombat-level key command to do so is G+R+ALT+SPACE while standing next to your horse and then tapping CTRL + Q or E. To then put your hat back on is G+R+ALT+BACKSPACE or <.

 

[DalekFlay]

I don't know why people are stressing about poor performance on the ultra settings since the TAA is so fucking blurry the game looked average no matter what.

 

[Burning Bridges]

How does it run on normal settings?

 

[Burning Bridges]

I'm like... not enjoying this much at all? Everything is so fucking clunky, like the main character has arthritis, and there's all this random bullshit you need to do that takes 5 different prompts to get through. Hold tab, press R, click on X, let go of tab, hold B to use, press R to pick-up. Like jesus fucking christ this could all be done very simply with a menu click and the E key. The shooting is obviously balanced around auto-targeting and getting mobbed by three wolves is a pain in the ass. Why do I have to press shift five times to go fast, and then he randomly slows down constantly anyway when he passes someone or something? When the fuck is it saving outside of mission checkpoints and sleeping? Why the fuck put survival mechanics in a game like this? Could the story pacing be any slower?

I'm like 5 hours in and thinking of uninstalling. GTA4/5 had some of this shit but nowhere near as bad, to my memory.

Probably an attempt by Rockstar to make console gamers feel like they're playing a PC game... 'cause e-mmurshion.

I've heard you can even take off your hat and dust it off. The Mortal Kombat-level key command to do so is G+R+ALT+SPACE while standing next to your horse and then tapping CTRL + Q or E. To then put your hat back on is G+R+ALT+BACKSPACE or <.

That does not sound good. I already know this shit from GTAV the character steers less like a human and more like a heavy boat and everything is a mess of keys - hit UP for cellphone then navigate with the mouse - lookup your mechanic from the adress list (I would be faster if I memorized his number irl) so he brings your car - or the endless M -> then someshit sequences to eat snacks or put on scuba gear.

 

[DalekFlay]

How does it run on normal settings?

I'm using a mix of medium and high with a few things on ultra and it runs great honestly. I watched and read some optimizing guides that point out the big performance draining settings, put those on medium and off I went. On a 2070 with a Ryzen 3600 I'm getting 70-80fps at 1440p with no real dips. Game crashes if I play longer than a couple hours though.

 

[Burning Bridges]

So they shot themselves in the foot with unusable settings? Incredible, how stupid can you be.

 

[DalekFlay]

So they shot themselves in the foot with unusable settings? Incredible, how stupid can you be.

Yeah, Digital Foundry has a video that shows the Xbox One X uses the equivalent of low settings in almost everything, with a few exceptions. So the high and ultra stuff on PC (outside of textures) is all extra, extra fluff. Crysis did the same thing back in the day, had higher settings meant for future PCs, and people screamed about that too.

 

[Wyatt_Derp]

I'm like... not enjoying this much at all? Everything is so fucking clunky, like the main character has arthritis, and there's all this random bullshit you need to do that takes 5 different prompts to get through. Hold tab, press R, click on X, let go of tab, hold B to use, press R to pick-up. Like jesus fucking christ this could all be done very simply with a menu click and the E key. The shooting is obviously balanced around auto-targeting and getting mobbed by three wolves is a pain in the ass. Why do I have to press shift five times to go fast, and then he randomly slows down constantly anyway when he passes someone or something? When the fuck is it saving outside of mission checkpoints and sleeping? Why the fuck put survival mechanics in a game like this? Could the story pacing be any slower?

I'm like 5 hours in and thinking of uninstalling. GTA4/5 had some of this shit but nowhere near as bad, to my memory.

Probably an attempt by Rockstar to make console gamers feel like they're playing a PC game... 'cause e-mmurshion.

I've heard you can even take off your hat and dust it off. The Mortal Kombat-level key command to do so is G+R+ALT+SPACE while standing next to your horse and then tapping CTRL + Q or E. To then put your hat back on is G+R+ALT+BACKSPACE or <.

That does not sound good. I already know this shit from GTAV the character steers less like a human and more like a heavy boat and everything is a mess of keys - hit UP for cellphone then navigate with the mouse - lookup your mechanic from the adress list (I would be faster if I memorized his number irl) so he brings your car - or the endless M -> then someshit sequences to eat snacks or put on scuba gear.

That's what inspired me to make the joke. Clearly Rockstar's PC team does their programming while hanging upside down like Batman.

 

[DalekFlay]

Like literally any other game... even console ports... you would press Tab to bring up the menu, then click on a potion or whatever and boom you're done. In this game you walk to the horse, hold tab to bring up the inventory, press R to go to items, highlight the drink section and then press Q or E to cycle slowly through all the drinks, then release ab on the drink you want, then watch the slow as fucking molasses animation while he drinks it.

It's fucking infuriating.

 

[Swigen]

Only thing that pisses me off animation wise in this game is Arthur takes one fucking drag from his cigarette before throwing it away. I mean, wtf is that? I need to watch him eat a bowl of stew in real time but I can’t smoke a fag or else what, someone on twitter will write something cute?

 

[vonAchdorf]

Only thing that pisses me off animation wise in this game is Arthur takes one fucking drag from his cigarette before throwing it away. I mean, wtf is that? I need to watch him eat a bowl of stew in real time but I can’t smoke a fag or else what, someone on twitter will write something cute?

There should be two different kinds of animations - if you pick the cigarette from the wheel, it can be a short animation, but if you select in from the satchel, he should smoke it properly - cigars too of course. They do that for stew and alcohol you grab from a box too, so it's not a new concept.

 

[DalekFlay]

I'm guessing you can't fuck the whores because you'd be waiting 10 minutes for Arthur to cum.

 

[vonAchdorf]

Arthur is a volcel.

 

[Belegarsson]

I'm near the end of chapter 6, feel like Arthur and Harry Du Bois should have a drink together...

 

[Burning Bridges]

Like literally any other game... even console ports... you would press Tab to bring up the menu, then click on a potion or whatever and boom you're done. In this game you walk to the horse, hold tab to bring up the inventory, press R to go to items, highlight the drink section and then press Q or E to cycle slowly through all the drinks, then release ab on the drink you want, then watch the slow as fucking molasses animation while he drinks it.

It's fucking infuriating.

It's there so the console plebs have a chance against the PC players.
There is a guy I often played with who seemed to be pretty good at the game. At some point my network had grown and I had many friends, he often asked if I would play, I invited him to our lobby but he no longer came while I could see he played with randos. Later he said he did not want to play in "mouse & keyboard lobbies". It took me some time but I realized that he had been playing with some sort of auto-aim and fucking sucked without it.

 

[RNGsus]

I'm near the end of chapter 6, feel like Arthur and Harry Du Bois should have a drink together...

My game is on hold indefinitely after I decided to ignore the story and rob special stages and trains. I'm still in Rhodes, I've only stolen some horses for the plantation family. My guess is Hosea and Dutch are about to fall out over business in Rhodes, Dutch is going to do something without consulting Hosea's plans, and whether they're successful or not, Hosea and Dutch will part ways. I haven't played in over a week and I don't want to go back to it.

 

[Belegarsson]

My game is on hold indefinitely after I decided to ignore the story and rob special stages and trains. I'm still in Rhodes, I've only stolen some horses for the plantation family. My guess is Hosea and Dutch are about to fall out over business in Rhodes, Dutch is going to do something without consulting Hosea's plans, and whether they're successful or not, Hosea and Dutch will part ways. I haven't played in over a week and I don't want to go back to it.

Your guess is both very close and far from the truth. Trust me, that's for the best

Basically chapter 6 is when Arthur's state of mind starts revealing itself, lots of interesting tidbits about his past, his real perspective towards loyalty and moral code appear in... well, let's just say pretty approriate situations.

At the end I finally realized that the story isn't about criminals finding freedom, it's more about the world is already leaving people whom it deems obsolete behind. Those are the kind of people who are willing to show their true nature when they have nothing to lose, but surprise surprise, these criminals aren't even the worst human beings that walk on those supposedly lawful lands.

The most tragic thing about Arthur is that he has shown to be a compassionate person that anyone can rely on, yet the people who raised him scolded him as a dumb brute that talks with violence, which gave him insecurities and conflicting self awareness. I mean god damn it towards the end he kept blabbering about "not being a good person/knowing nothing about kindness" while it's far from the truth. It seems that both Dutch and Arthur are loyal to the gang for different reasons, Dutch goes above and beyond to give them a better life which means delving into the modern society that's eating them alive and become the wolves themselves, while Arthur just wants them to stay out of the wolves' teeth because he witnessed too many lives ruined due to violence.

I finished the game last night and this particular line stuck with me

Spoiler

Until now I'm still not sure if Dutch is truly a manipulative bastard and he tried to make Arthur think worse of himself because he knew Arthur would be a better leader than him, or he was genuinely unaware of what Arthur was going through in his mind.

 

[DalekFlay]

Just watch No Country for Old Men then.

 

[RNGsus]

No goddamn European man bags in that story.

 

[cvv]

Ok so I finally bought it, played it for about 30 minutes and I'm fucking blown away. I watched a bit of this game on Youtube when it came out and got intrigued but when you're actually in it....the craft, the atmosphere, the acting, jesus christ I've never seen anything like it.

I feel like I've been wandering through desert and came across an oasis. This game actually feels like something made by adults, for adults. It's like watching an old western movie with Clint Eastwood, it's amazing.

But I quit after half hour and uninstalled. Either something is wrong with the game or my 4 year old rig is just not up to the task (i5, RX480). It does this "jerking" thing, dunno how to describe this - while moving around the game dashes and stops, dashes and stops, not much but just to be noticeable and unbearable after a while, instead of a completely fluid movement. A shame but I was planning to buy a new rig next year anyway so I'm saving this baby and playing it on Ultra with all the bells and whistles in a few months.

I know the game was bashed on for the actual gameplay but I don't care, in a world like this, with the art and craft like this and acting like this I'm willing to forgive a lot gameplay-wise. This will be a big one.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

Either something is wrong with the game or my 4 year old rig is just not up to the task (i5, RX480). It does this "jerking" thing, dunno how to describe this - while moving around the game dashes and stops, dashes and stops, not much but just to be noticeable and unbearable after a while, instead of a completely fluid movement.

Do you mean it's stuttering/freezing for a fraction of a second? If yes, then it's both. It's not super friendly to older PCs, but it could be a better port, like i.e. GTA V.

I'm playing it on my laptop bought a year ago, i5-8300h, GTX 1050 non-ti 4gb, 8gb ram. If I crank the settings up to a medium mixture (usual suspects like volumetrics on low, water physics which makes your game stutter even on a desert, off, then some stuff on ultra etc), I have the same issue (assuming it's the same one) despite the fact that I get this average 30fps. Now I turned down things like shadow quality to low, and when I get 35-40 fps the stuttering finally 99% disappeared.

Maybe it's just an issue with 8gb of RAM and not GPU quality? Because when I enter Saint Denis (the biggest city/performance sink with lots of objects, lights and shadows) it stutters a lot at the beginning, and when it's finally "loaded" it runs smoothly. Maybe someone can help with an advice.

Anyway, since I'm not exactly keen on buying a 1600 EUR laptop with RTX 2070 just for this game, and maybe Cyberpunk, I make do alright.

Since you're buying a new rig it doesn't matter anyway, be sure to play it in a higher resolution or a lot of those "ultra" things you pay thousands of caps for you simply won't notice on 1080p. And don't buy a gaming laptop in Media Markt (well, it was bought for me as a gift, but still).

 

[cvv]

Yeah I just googled a bit and apparently Rockstar didn't make the port friendly for 4-core CPUs, which is my case. But yeah, it doesn't matter, new rig is coming, probably next summer.
(Also I never game on my laptops, those are always just cheap crap for office work, I've always had a desktop gaming rig).

 

[Silva]

Ok so I finally bought it, played it for about 30 minutes and I'm fucking blown away. I watched a bit of this game on Youtube when it came out and got intrigued but when you're actually in it....the craft, the atmosphere, the acting, jesus christ I've never seen anything like it.

I feel like I've been wandering through desert and came across an oasis. This game actually feels like something made by adults, for adults. It's like watching an old western movie with Clint Eastwood, it's amazing.

But I quit after half hour and uninstalled. Either something is wrong with the game or my 4 year old rig is just not up to the task (i5, RX480). It does this "jerking" thing, dunno how to describe this - while moving around the game dashes and stops, dashes and stops, not much but just to be noticeable and unbearable after a while, instead of a completely fluid movement. A shame but I was planning to buy a new rig next year anyway so I'm saving this baby and playing it on Ultra with all the bells and whistles in a few months.

I know the game was bashed on for the actual gameplay but I don't care, in a world like this, with the art and craft like this and acting like this I'm willing to forgive a lot gameplay-wise. This will be a big one.

I bet you'll come back cursing in disappointment after... hmm... 7 hours.

Anyone in?

 

[sullynathan]

I bet you'll come back cursing in disappointment after... hmm... 7 hours.

If you are strictly playing for atmosphere, acting, writing and production values, I doubt it.

 

[cvv]

I bet you'll come back cursing in disappointment after... hmm... 7 hours.

If you are strictly playing for atmosphere, acting, writing and production values, I doubt it.

That's exactly how I played Witcher 3 and that's exactly how I enjoyed it.