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Capcom Resident Evil 4 Remake - out now for PC/Playstation/Xbox

Drakortha

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Another simp loser enters the chatroom.
It was a fucking joke you 50 iq subhuman

You'd think any functional adult would calmly make the arguments about the game they dislike and then leave the discussion, but this guy just keeps on going.
If you want nothing but fanboy discussion there's always Resetera.

If I expressed my dislike for RE4 anywhere outside the Codex I'd be banned immediately. At least you have a choice where you can express your shitty opinion.
 

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If you want nothing but fanboy discussion there's always Resetera.

If I expressed my dislike anywhere outside the Codex I'd be banned immediately. At least you have a choice where you can express your shitty opinion.

You've not made an original argument for pages now. It's literally just nu-RE bad.

Hell I disagree with Ash on many things, but at least he makes an effort.
 

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If you want nothing but fanboy discussion there's always Resetera.

If I expressed my dislike anywhere outside the Codex I'd be banned immediately. At least you have a choice where you can express your shitty opinion.

You've not made an original argument for pages now. It's literally just nu-RE bad.

Hell I disagree with Ash on many things, but at least he makes an effort.
Original RE4 is shit too, it always was. If everyone would stop forgetting that fact, I wouldn't have to keep reminding everyone.

It seems like my work will just never be done, but that's okay. I'm in this for the long haul.
 
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it begins!!!
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If they skip Code Veronica again I will be fucking pissed. Nobody wants a remake of 5.

I want Dino Crisis 1, 2, and then Code Veronica. After that they can stop with the remakes.

Resident Evil 5 is their best selling Resident Evil, it’s happening. On the other hand Code: Veronica is one of their, (and is the worst selling of their regular RE games) so it’s probably not going to happen in the same kind of way the numbered titles have. Capcom does seem to like Alexia Ashford though, or maybe it’s just Kinu Nishimura.

I feel like the only way we’re getting Code: Veronica is as some kind of abridged version in a RE5 remake. Looking at the sales, Zero has now outsold it. Code: Veronica sales are such that if only a quarter of people that bought RE5 wanted a remake, that’d still be more people than have played Code: Veronica.

In line with that article, I saw that Resident Evil leaker sperging about RE5 not too long ago on Twitter. It was kind of funny because he couldn’t quite say why what he was saying was racist, just that it was racist. There were even black people telling him they didn’t think it was racist, and he’d just kind of vaguely tell them it is. He seems to be confused as to why people go to his Twitter, which is for his inside information, not his personal opinions on whatever.

People bitch about the tribe bit like there aren’t tribes in Africa or something. And I can see Capcom maybe changing that somewhat, but only in so far as they can point to actually tribal mask and go: Hey, these are the real Tribal Mask that inspired use; this is the actually stuff we referenced for this or that.
 

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Resident Evil 5 is their best selling Resident Evil, it’s happening.

Also kinda confirmed considering how much emphasis Wesker got during the RE4 remake ending sequence with him hamming up his plans to remake the world. They wouldn't show off a new Wesker face model and VA so prominently if they weren't planning to make significant use of it (though I guess they would have had to have shown his new model anyway for Mercs mode).
 
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Funnily this remake of RE4 probably has the best puzzles since the remake of the original game. I’m actually a little surprised how much classic adventure game Resident Evil they added into this remake.
 

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Now that they are close to remaking RE5, it would make sense for them to go back to the roots and explain wtf is going on with Wesker to the new audience. The guy's story is super inconsistent - he starts out as a corrupt police captain, then he turns into some Matrix character who can dodge bullets, then he's a Bond villain who's scheming from behind the scenes, and then this mess culminates with Wesker turning into some ridiculous saturday morning cartoon badguy who wants to destroy the world for reasons.

I halfway expect Capcom to re-remake RE1 with over the shoulder camera view. Maybe even squash RE1, RE Zero and RE CV into a single game that establishes Wesker and explains his motivations and powers.
 

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btw Wesker's new voice actor sucks.

Too bad the guy who voiced him in RE5 was cancelled. He did an awesome job hamming it up.
 

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On the other hand Code: Veronica is one of their, (and is the worst selling of their regular RE games)

The game was originally only released on Dreamcast. That ended up making the game fly a bit 'under the radar' for the casual audience. By the time it got released on other platforms the hype wasn't really there.
 

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If they skip Code Veronica again I will be fucking pissed. Nobody wants a remake of 5.

I want Dino Crisis 1, 2, and then Code Veronica. After that they can stop with the remakes.
Wish they would just stop with the remakes and make new shit. We know those stories already, and they are not gonna make it better then the originals anyway.

So tired of the age of remakes.
 

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Not sure what's going on in my case, but they don't get stunned when I shoot them in the head. They don't even flinch. I tried again just now and one guy completely ignored being shot in the face as he rushed and grabbed me.
The difficulty is way higher than it was in the original game, but mostly because the combat feels very inconsistent (which is by design, but I'm not a fan of that).
The original game had very tight and predictable mechanics - you always knew what animations/moves Leon and enemies will perform, the movement was very solid and gamey, and all of the enemies had predictable behaviors. The remake, on the other hand, is very "loose" - just like in RE2Remake, enemies tend to have inconsistent hit reactions (sometimes a headshot makes them flinch, sometimes it makes them to fall on the ground, sometimes it sets them up for a melee attack, and sometimes they just tank the damage and keep going).
I get why you don't like this, but as a horror game fan I'm very happy to read it. We probably agree that veering away from "survival horror" gameplay and closer to "horror" makes this remake less faithful to the original. In my case I am pleased by the departure; I love it when a game isn't so easy to dissect into "I have 11 bullets and each zombie takes 3.2 shots to kill and a knife stab is worth 0.45 bullets so I can either shoot 4 times or shoot 3 times and stab once or shoot twice and stab 3 times so ..." In horror, I much prefer "well I've got 11 bullets left and there are a lot of them so here goes" :)
RE4 isn't a horror game.
 

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Not sure what's going on in my case, but they don't get stunned when I shoot them in the head. They don't even flinch. I tried again just now and one guy completely ignored being shot in the face as he rushed and grabbed me.
The difficulty is way higher than it was in the original game, but mostly because the combat feels very inconsistent (which is by design, but I'm not a fan of that).
The original game had very tight and predictable mechanics - you always knew what animations/moves Leon and enemies will perform, the movement was very solid and gamey, and all of the enemies had predictable behaviors. The remake, on the other hand, is very "loose" - just like in RE2Remake, enemies tend to have inconsistent hit reactions (sometimes a headshot makes them flinch, sometimes it makes them to fall on the ground, sometimes it sets them up for a melee attack, and sometimes they just tank the damage and keep going).
I get why you don't like this, but as a horror game fan I'm very happy to read it. We probably agree that veering away from "survival horror" gameplay and closer to "horror" makes this remake less faithful to the original. In my case I am pleased by the departure; I love it when a game isn't so easy to dissect into "I have 11 bullets and each zombie takes 3.2 shots to kill and a knife stab is worth 0.45 bullets so I can either shoot 4 times or shoot 3 times and stab once or shoot twice and stab 3 times so ..." In horror, I much prefer "well I've got 11 bullets left and there are a lot of them so here goes" :)
RE4 isn't a horror game.
RE4 isn't survival horror. It is an action-horror game though.
 

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Not sure what's going on in my case, but they don't get stunned when I shoot them in the head. They don't even flinch. I tried again just now and one guy completely ignored being shot in the face as he rushed and grabbed me.
The difficulty is way higher than it was in the original game, but mostly because the combat feels very inconsistent (which is by design, but I'm not a fan of that).
The original game had very tight and predictable mechanics - you always knew what animations/moves Leon and enemies will perform, the movement was very solid and gamey, and all of the enemies had predictable behaviors. The remake, on the other hand, is very "loose" - just like in RE2Remake, enemies tend to have inconsistent hit reactions (sometimes a headshot makes them flinch, sometimes it makes them to fall on the ground, sometimes it sets them up for a melee attack, and sometimes they just tank the damage and keep going).
I get why you don't like this, but as a horror game fan I'm very happy to read it. We probably agree that veering away from "survival horror" gameplay and closer to "horror" makes this remake less faithful to the original. In my case I am pleased by the departure; I love it when a game isn't so easy to dissect into "I have 11 bullets and each zombie takes 3.2 shots to kill and a knife stab is worth 0.45 bullets so I can either shoot 4 times or shoot 3 times and stab once or shoot twice and stab 3 times so ..." In horror, I much prefer "well I've got 11 bullets left and there are a lot of them so here goes" :)
RE4 isn't a horror game.
RE4 isn't survival horror. It is an action-horror game though.
No it isn't, Shinji Mikami himself said horror is the least important thing in the game.
 
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There's literally more comedy than horror in RE4. People who keep trying to convince themselves that it's a horror game a really cute. It's ok to enjoy the game when it's not horror. It's not just approach to gameplay, it's the tone too. Evil Within, Mikami game after RE4, is way more horror. Both in tone and in gameplay. Even though it appears similar to RE4 in gameplay the combat in EW is designed to be scarier, actually panic inducing. I appreciated the attempt to create horror through action, even if it wasn't anywhere near as polished as it should've been and some parts just felt like annoying bullshit as a result.
 
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tldr;

RE4 is a dumb action-adventure game that's single-handedly responsible for the downfall of horror Resident Evil games. But of course, this destruction couldn't possibly have been wrought without the RE4 fanboys who shill that trash piece of shit game to this day.
 

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RE4 is a dumb action-adventure game that's single-handedly responsible for the downfall of horror Resident Evil games
RE was already on the decline prior RE4. The point of RE4 was to revive the franchise in the first place. RE3, Code Veronica and RE:0 all had middling fan receptions compared to the first two entries.
 

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RE4 is a dumb action-adventure game that's single-handedly responsible for the downfall of horror Resident Evil games
RE was already on the decline prior RE4. The point of RE4 was to revive the franchise in the first place. RE3, Code Veronica and RE:0 all had middling fan receptions compared to the first two entries.
The point of RE4 was to revive the franchise into a entirely different genre. Contrary to popular opinion around here, I think that's pretty shit and it doesn't do Resident Evil any justice.

Fast forward almost 20 years later and RE still can't get away from RE4. We finally get a Resident Evil 2 remake after so many years waiting, and it turns out to be another RE inspired by RE4. Crapcom's never ending fan service to rabid RE4 fans is palpable.
 

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