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Revoke Twiglards privileges?

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How am I going to give you a citation of something that did not happen?
It's not the "boss" who defines doxxing, doxxing is something specific, regardless of what DU does with it, thats up to him.
Actually, since it's the boss' damn site, he's entirely within his rights to consider anything he wants to to be doxxing. Whether or not he's right is anudda matter and also completely irrelevant in this situation. It's the called the free market.
 

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Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it.
Did you forget about the Ironyuri event?
I doubt I was ever aware of it, but I remember a user by that name. Go ahead and say what's on your mind.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/rpgcodex-intentionally-leaks-private-customer-data.102339/
Actually, I do remember something of this. I'll go through a bit of the thread, but as I recall, there was some detail that was missing from the OP that was relevant and intentionally obfuscated. Could be wrong though, it's not like I have the best memory.
Nigga(forgot his name) wanted to fuck his gf's daughter(or some stupid shit like that). Ironyuri got his name or address because that nigga was too dumb to not overshare his life. DU decided to post Ironyuri's name.
 

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It's interesting that the people who tend to be concerned with issues like privacy are fine with admin "looking into" and screwing with users they don't like, but would be screeching up to the high heavens if it had happened to them.

Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it. I think Twiglard has done some great things, but he also tends to rate pretty much anything I post as some variation of retarded. That's fine, but how do I know he's not going to go on some vendetta against me because I've upset the wrong folk, or just because he doesn't know where the line should be drawn on fun and games, and srs bzns.
You realize Twiglard being an Admin did nothing, right? Anyone could have found and posted that.
I see your point. I'm not sure you completely get mine which is more about judgment and perceptions. It's possible that this made enough of a difference in his mind and that's where he draws the line - re: abuse of privileges vs. available and known information. Anyway, that's a reasonable consideration, thanks.
 

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Nigga(forgot his name) wanted to fuck his gf's daughter(or some stupid shit like that). Ironyuri got his name or address because that nigga was too dumb to not overshare his life. DU decided to post Ironyuri's name.
Oh yeah. This is starting to sound really familiar. Basically an eye for an eye. So... what's the parallel with this situation that brings up an eye for an eye, in your mind?
 

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Boss says otherwise.

Yes. The results of said dangerous doxx are still in a thread in GD. Or do you think having blacked out those names makes the "threat" they represent, null? Because anyone can easily get to the original thread and take new one, just based on the info you still have on the boards. Anyone. (<--- edit: ok I suppose that should read "anyone who's not completely tech illiterate, naive about the net and with an IQ above room temperature.")

This is the level of info you're calling a doxx. The primary issue here is, the screen had been removed by higher authority before. Reposting that without first asking his fellows admin is all he did wrong.

As far as I'm concerned this thread is moronic and this is something the admins must solve amongst themselves.

You're behaving like an ass and twisting events around just because someone you don't like should get demoted. Cry me a river bitch.
 
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Nigga(forgot his name) wanted to fuck his gf's daughter(or some stupid shit like that). Ironyuri got his name or address because that nigga was too dumb to not overshare his life. DU decided to post Ironyuri's name.
Oh yeah. This is starting to sound really familiar. Basically an eye for an eye. So... what's the parallel with this situation that brings up an eye for an eye, in your mind?
DU got Ironyuri's information from his payment details, doing the opposite of the thing you asked for:
know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it.
If I share my life to a group of people and someone there can easily find me irl, it's my fault for allowing him to easily find it.
It's not the same as you sharing my credentials after getting it from a payment I did for your forum, expecting you to keep your side of not sharing my info.
 

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Nigga(forgot his name) wanted to fuck his gf's daughter(or some stupid shit like that). Ironyuri got his name or address because that nigga was too dumb to not overshare his life. DU decided to post Ironyuri's name.
Oh yeah. This is starting to sound really familiar. Basically an eye for an eye. So... what's the parallel with this situation that brings up an eye for an eye, in your mind?
That would be screen capping a Twiglard post from a different forum? That wouldn't be difficult to do. Doubt he'll care?
 

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sharing my credentials after getting it from a payment I did for your forum

It's not the same, true; but we're verging on the paranoid here, which also doesn't help the situation :)
Since it's an important point however, friendly reminder (to those who need it) that in YoL 2023, we have intermediates for a reason. Goes beyond 'trusting', leaks and hacks do occur and frequently.

What they have on you should be what you're comfortable sharing, worst case scenario -full exposure- factored in.

* on topic, Twig gives a shit, which is a strong redeeming factor in my book. As in gives a shit about the forum; tangibly.
 

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It's interesting that the people who tend to be concerned with issues like privacy are fine with admin "looking into" and screwing with users they don't like, but would be screeching up to the high heavens if it had happened to them.

Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it. I think Twiglard has done some great things, but he also tends to rate pretty much anything I post as some variation of retarded. That's fine, but how do I know he's not going to go on some vendetta against me because I've upset the wrong folk, or just because he doesn't know where the line should be drawn on fun and games, and srs bzns.
You realize Twiglard being an Admin did nothing, right? Anyone could have found and posted that.
I see your point. I'm not sure you completely get mine which is more about judgment and perceptions. It's possible that this made enough of a difference in his mind and that's where he draws the line - re: abuse of privileges vs. available and known information. Anyway, that's a reasonable consideration, thanks.
Well, here’s the thing. Theodora “apparently” posted his real *name* as his username on Retardera. How could anyone had known this? Oh wait, they couldn’t. Of course, you already know the logical conclusion of this, which is circular. Any dipshit can claim something like this in order to save face and that’s fine but it doesn’t justify killing shoutbox and exaggerating about muh “doxxing” and “grand conspiracies” in DU’s terms (which he had no actual proof for as the logs clearly fucking show to anyone who’s not a complete retard.)

I’m not going to argue against the verdict, which is pointless. But bitching about muh “privacy”, admin abuse, conspiracies, and decline etc is retarded.
 

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You're behaving like an ass and twisting events around just because someone you don't like should get demoted. Cry me a river bitch.
I don't think me and Twiggy have ever interacted you stupid shitalian fuckhead. All I'm doing is evaluating the facts with reason and logic.
 

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It's interesting that the people who tend to be concerned with issues like privacy are fine with admin "looking into" and screwing with users they don't like, but would be screeching up to the high heavens if it had happened to them.

Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it. I think Twiglard has done some great things, but he also tends to rate pretty much anything I post as some variation of retarded. That's fine, but how do I know he's not going to go on some vendetta against me because I've upset the wrong folk, or just because he doesn't know where the line should be drawn on fun and games, and srs bzns.

If only there was some way to accept payments without needing personal information.

if only.
 

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It's interesting that the people who tend to be concerned with issues like privacy are fine with admin "looking into" and screwing with users they don't like, but would be screeching up to the high heavens if it had happened to them.

Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it. I think Twiglard has done some great things, but he also tends to rate pretty much anything I post as some variation of retarded. That's fine, but how do I know he's not going to go on some vendetta against me because I've upset the wrong folk, or just because he doesn't know where the line should be drawn on fun and games, and srs bzns.

If only there was some way to accept payments without needing personal information.

if only.

Anonymous payment methods would be great, but it also isn't too much to ask that the staff be trustworthy.
 

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Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it.
You might want to read these:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/rpgcodex-intentionally-leaks-private-customer-data.102339/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/what-happened-to-kalin.139304/page-23#post-7394300
The issue here is not access. The issue is use of information. Just because you have information doesn't mean you should use it. I fucked up when I referred to what's his face because he has a really memorable name (for reasons I won't go into). I see all the payment information that comes through and who it comes from. And it all goes to my accountant too, for tax purposes. (We actually need to figure out what country every donation is from, so we can pay the appropriate level of tax - though thankfully PayPal has a report for that now which makes it a bit easier - so Fun Fact™ If you've ever donated, I've had to figure out where you live for tax purposes).

We're volunteers, running a website for fun. If you want to be serious, I will put up the most draconian end user terms that make it clear that we will use anything and everything you post in whatever way we so deem fit. And I will make you click "agree" before you register. Smart cookies would realise we already do. Though I doubt any of you have actually read it, just like everything else you've ever clicked agree to.
For example, any Administrator on the website can access your profile. In that, we can see your email address. I can take that email address, google all or any part of it (which for most people is fairly unique) and find instagram accounts, twitter, old dating profiles, facebook, your employment, the list goes on. Most social media apps these days have a function that allows you to find users based on their email address.

We can go one further and cross reference with everything you've ever posted. You mentioned a favourite taco joint, or a school you went to, or your home town? We can check that against your time-zone (and let's be honest, most of you chose your local time zone didn't you? You'd be surprised at how easily that narrows your location down). Hell, there's even a field for date of birth on here.

Up next, we can pull your IP address, which is saved with every post you make, over the 10+ years some users have been posting here. Did you remember to use your VPN every time? I mean, every single time? Because I can download public lists of VPNs and TOR exit nodes, compare them to every IP you've posted from, pull out the ones that don't come up as public proxies, and check if there's a pattern. Maybe it's always the same exit node, maybe it's always a VPN from the same country, maybe you forgot just that one time and posted from your mobile device.
 

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Personally, I'd prefer to have some level of confidence that the admin who may have access to my information such as payment details also know how to handle confidentiality, discretion, and generally not be dickheads about it.
You might want to read these:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/rpgcodex-intentionally-leaks-private-customer-data.102339/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/what-happened-to-kalin.139304/page-23#post-7394300
The issue here is not access. The issue is use of information. Just because you have information doesn't mean you should use it. I fucked up when I referred to what's his face because he has a really memorable name (for reasons I won't go into). I see all the payment information that comes through and who it comes from. And it all goes to my accountant too, for tax purposes. (We actually need to figure out what country every donation is from, so we can pay the appropriate level of tax - though thankfully PayPal has a report for that now which makes it a bit easier - so Fun Fact™ If you've ever donated, I've had to figure out where you live for tax purposes).

We're volunteers, running a website for fun. If you want to be serious, I will put up the most draconian end user terms that make it clear that we will use anything and everything you post in whatever way we so deem fit. And I will make you click "agree" before you register. Smart cookies would realise we already do. Though I doubt any of you have actually read it, just like everything else you've ever clicked agree to.
For example, any Administrator on the website can access your profile. In that, we can see your email address. I can take that email address, google all or any part of it (which for most people is fairly unique) and find instagram accounts, twitter, old dating profiles, facebook, your employment, the list goes on. Most social media apps these days have a function that allows you to find users based on their email address.

We can go one further and cross reference with everything you've ever posted. You mentioned a favourite taco joint, or a school you went to, or your home town? We can check that against your time-zone (and let's be honest, most of you chose your local time zone didn't you? You'd be surprised at how easily that narrows your location down). Hell, there's even a field for date of birth on here.

Up next, we can pull your IP address, which is saved with every post you make, over the 10+ years some users have been posting here. Did you remember to use your VPN every time? I mean, every single time? Because I can download public lists of VPNs and TOR exit nodes, compare them to every IP you've posted from, pull out the ones that don't come up as public proxies, and check if there's a pattern. Maybe it's always the same exit node, maybe it's always a VPN from the same country, maybe you forgot just that one time and posted from your mobile device.
Yes, I generally remember a lot of this stuff. I will go ahead and reacquaint myself with them, but as I recall, there's some context missing from a lot of this stuff that you guys like to trot out. However, given what I've said ITT, I can see why you'd bring it up here.
 

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It's the called the free market.

Lol, well, if you want to take that direction, Twiglard should definitely be "forgiven". You don't last very long in the free market if you cook the goose that lays some of your golden eggs. Pretty easy decision from a value adding perspective.
 

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Well, here’s the thing. Theodora “apparently” posted his real *name* as his username on Retardera. How could anyone had known this? Oh wait, they couldn’t. Of course, you already know the logical conclusion of this, which is circular. Any dipshit can claim something like this in order to save face and that’s fine but it doesn’t justify killing shoutbox and exaggerating about muh “doxxing” and “grand conspiracies” in DU’s terms (which he had no actual proof for as the logs clearly fucking show to anyone who’s not a complete retard.)
Actually, it's only the retards arguing it's not. Everyone else seems to pretty much agree with me on that one.

Remember, "All Infinitron had to do was not slander the good name of the Turtle Zone" and, "I like the idea of putting us in the credits", in logs that are full of "Oh Twiglard didn't see this? Here's another copy..."
 

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