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Editorial Role-playing Homosexual in Dragon Age II

DragoFireheart

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BelisariuS.F said:
DragoFireheart said:
It's too easy to troll you fuckers.

Lame attempt at saving your face by renouncing your own words.


Which is why you argued with me? Keep livin in that dream world. :smug:

It's funny since you pointed out the reason men watch heterosexual porn: the fact you didn't catch on earlier like another poster is amusing.
 

BelisariuS.F

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DragoFireheart said:
BelisariuS.F said:
DragoFireheart said:
It's too easy to troll you fuckers.

Lame attempt at saving your face by renouncing your own words.


Which is why you argued with me? Keep livin in that dream world. :smug:

It's funny since you pointed out the reason men watch heterosexual porn: the fact you didn't catch on earlier like another poster is amusing.

You are trying too hard.
Anyways, whatever. Write something, so you'll be happy that you have the last word in this discussion, and lets end this retarded subject.
 

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Azrael the cat said:
malko_sundervere said:
"Anyone of any sexuality can enjoy romances in this game." There are two flaws here:
a) "Enjoy romances in this game," fuck, no. Very, very few video game romances in this world are worth *shit*, if you enjoy Bioware's it is entirely likely that you also enjoy shoving your dick in hypodermic needle disposal containers.
b) "Anyone of any sexuality." Look, honey, if the characters need to have man-parts or even be heterosexual for you to enjoy a solidly written romance, you've got deeper problems than video games not catering to you. If a straight romance doesn't catch you, either you are dense, or it's a poorly-written romance, and, subsequently, if a gay romance doesn't catch you... Same thing. I don't enjoy reading a quality romance because it is bisexual (just like me omg omg omg!!111), I read it because it's GOOD. I don't let the Western concept of gender/sexual inequity impact my appreciation for something high-quality and expressive.
There are certain plot devices and character types that a heterosexual romance would be unsuited for, and vice-versa; it's not a matter, to me, of *forcing* a "gay" character in the game, it's creating something cohesive and believable, in the setting and for the characters, and Dragon Age 2 has dramatically failed in that regards.

Gaider's cluelessness on the flaws in the writing shows when he describes Isobelle as a 'sexually confident female character'. I hate to be the one to tell him this, but people who are confident in their sexuality, whether male or female, straight or gay, don't spend half their conversations talking about how much sex they've had, and how much sex they're going to have, and sex sex cock cock cock hitting sex arse leg it's wonderful!

The only people that talk like Isobelle are teenagers who haven't quite got sex and sexuality pinned down yet, but feel like they need to talk themselves up. Hence every second sentence is 'oh, but I have sex all the time! Really, I promise! More sex than you anyway! Did I tell you how much sex I'm going to have tomorrow night? You know, I don't normally go telling people about my private life, but with all the sex I'm having it's just natural for me to talk about sex all the time!'

And Isobelle isn't exactly a first offence by Bioware on that point. If the Bioware's writing team actually put into the script what they have in their heads, rather than producing a sex-obsessed teenager with low self-esteem when they're trying to write a sexually confident and mature woman, their writing would be a lot better than it is.

This is basically what's wrong with Bioware's writing in a nutshell. It's not just the romances that are poorly written, it's most of their characters because they never really resemble real grown ups who are emotionally stable, but teenagers that are anything but.
Most dialogues with Bioware characters boils down to listening to their issues and losing influence with them if you ever dare insult them and hurt their feelings.

It's suddenly becoming very clear to me why Bioware games appeal so much to young adults. Pardon me for being slow, but it's obvious why their fanbase consists of lonely fat teenagers, because these are the ones who can relate to Carth Onasi the best.
 

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Congrats for finally figuring out BioWare Vibalist.

And well said there Mr. Azrael the cat. Spot fucking on. :salute:
 

DragoFireheart

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BelisariuS.F said:
You are trying too hard.

I was trying too hard. I admit that.


Anyways, whatever. Write something, so you'll be happy that you have the last word in this discussion, and lets end this retarded subject.

Bioware can't write adult romances as Vibalist. Bioware character FLIP the fuck out if you "insult" them, which is very childish. Sometimes, questioning personal morals of someone gives that person a chance to become something better. What's a good word... oh yes! Mature. Characters that let us challenge and change can mature and become much more in depth. It's sad that characters are X belief and if I believe Y belief I lose 50 influence points with them. Is Bioware incapable of making characters with more tolerance and depth? (Rhetorical question).
 

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DragoFireheart said:
Edit: I once heard that the majority of men are gay to a certain extent. Reasoning? Most men do not watch solely lesbian porn but watch heterosexual porn (guy + chick) because they see certain qualities in the man that they admire and wish to "imagine" themselves as they fuck the chick. It's why most of the men in porn are cut and in shape

Were does ron jeremy fit in to this lol
 
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Vibalist said:
Most dialogues with Bioware characters boils down to listening to their issues and losing influence with them if you ever dare insult them and hurt their feelings.

P. sure even emotionally stable adults will get upset if you insult them to their face. I agree with the rest, though.
 

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I had to double check, because I was reading "role playing a homosexual dragon at age 2".
 

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so are there any children retards cripples or animals available for romance in DA2 since it caters for everyone?
 

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You know how I said earlier that no game ever had a good gay character? No? No matter, let me finish. I changed my mind. Funnily enough, the terrible game Phantasmagoria 2 had a perfectly likable and realistic gay character.
 

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Jasede said:
You know how I said earlier that no game ever had a good gay character? No? No matter, let me finish. I changed my mind. Funnily enough, the terrible game Phantasmagoria 2 had a perfectly likable and realistic gay character.

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guilty gear
 

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Hey,g uyz, did you fjuckin' know that the fuckin' posted named Volourn on the BIO boards hates fuckin's wearing! Whata fukkin' asshole!


He also approves everything BIO does even though he ahtes the DA1 toolset!

HAHAHAHA!

r00FLES!
 

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Vibalist said:
Azrael the cat said:
malko_sundervere said:
"Anyone of any sexuality can enjoy romances in this game." There are two flaws here:
a) "Enjoy romances in this game," fuck, no. Very, very few video game romances in this world are worth *shit*, if you enjoy Bioware's it is entirely likely that you also enjoy shoving your dick in hypodermic needle disposal containers.
b) "Anyone of any sexuality." Look, honey, if the characters need to have man-parts or even be heterosexual for you to enjoy a solidly written romance, you've got deeper problems than video games not catering to you. If a straight romance doesn't catch you, either you are dense, or it's a poorly-written romance, and, subsequently, if a gay romance doesn't catch you... Same thing. I don't enjoy reading a quality romance because it is bisexual (just like me omg omg omg!!111), I read it because it's GOOD. I don't let the Western concept of gender/sexual inequity impact my appreciation for something high-quality and expressive.
There are certain plot devices and character types that a heterosexual romance would be unsuited for, and vice-versa; it's not a matter, to me, of *forcing* a "gay" character in the game, it's creating something cohesive and believable, in the setting and for the characters, and Dragon Age 2 has dramatically failed in that regards.

Gaider's cluelessness on the flaws in the writing shows when he describes Isobelle as a 'sexually confident female character'. I hate to be the one to tell him this, but people who are confident in their sexuality, whether male or female, straight or gay, don't spend half their conversations talking about how much sex they've had, and how much sex they're going to have, and sex sex cock cock cock hitting sex arse leg it's wonderful!

The only people that talk like Isobelle are teenagers who haven't quite got sex and sexuality pinned down yet, but feel like they need to talk themselves up. Hence every second sentence is 'oh, but I have sex all the time! Really, I promise! More sex than you anyway! Did I tell you how much sex I'm going to have tomorrow night? You know, I don't normally go telling people about my private life, but with all the sex I'm having it's just natural for me to talk about sex all the time!'

And Isobelle isn't exactly a first offence by Bioware on that point. If the Bioware's writing team actually put into the script what they have in their heads, rather than producing a sex-obsessed teenager with low self-esteem when they're trying to write a sexually confident and mature woman, their writing would be a lot better than it is.

This is basically what's wrong with Bioware's writing in a nutshell. It's not just the romances that are poorly written, it's most of their characters because they never really resemble real grown ups who are emotionally stable, but teenagers that are anything but.
Most dialogues with Bioware characters boils down to listening to their issues and losing influence with them if you ever dare insult them and hurt their feelings.

It's suddenly becoming very clear to me why Bioware games appeal so much to young adults. Pardon me for being slow, but it's obvious why their fanbase consists of lonely fat teenagers, because these are the ones who can relate to Carth Onasi the best.

Someone needs to let these kids down easy and tell them that the "Reapers" want to take all their shit and make them listen to Disney radio. Every generation needs it's Gothic Hero.

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Unfortunately for my generation it was this guy:

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That's why I went full retard and joined the Army at 18.
 

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Vibalist said:
It's suddenly becoming very clear to me why Bioware games appeal so much to young adults. Pardon me for being slow, but it's obvious why their fanbase consists of lonely fat teenagers, because these are the ones who can relate to Carth Onasi the best.

One look at their dev lineup shows that they are indeed making games for themselves. The only difference between them and their fanbase as you described is the "teenagers" part.
 

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DragoFireheart said:
Vibalist said:
DragoFireheart said:
It's too easy to troll you fuckers.

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Took you fuckers long enough to post that.

It's fun how you keep coming back to defend yourself, as if a real troll would even bother.

Nice try, though.
 

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