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Sorry for being a retard, but EB? Wussdat?
 

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How's the campaign AI these days? I remember being very frustrated that it was so passive. It was basically the complete opposite of Shogun 2's aggressive, expansive AI that made late game an actual challenge at times. Does it still suck?
 

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Oh god, EB2 is actually coming out?

BRING OUT MY WAR BANNER AND MY GENERAL'S PENIS, IT'S GO TIME
 

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Passable to decent. Rome still won't expand no matter what unless really pressed for it, Macedon is still dying every game, Carthage implodes after turn 5, Seleucids seem to do fairly well now even with half the game up it's ass, the rest is 50/50 to whether they thrive or collapse but they certainly are not the rampaging hordes like in Shogun which I feel is a major letdown.

I have seen agent moves seem more intelligent though, which was surprising as it used to be they just attacked one settlement or army incessantly as you just let that town/army be sacrificed and killed them in 3 turns.
 

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Humble Bundle has a discount on Total War games - Rome 2 is for 18 eurobucks. Is it worth it to check it out myself, or should I wait a couple of years to be even cheaper?
 

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It still seems like more than I'd be willing to pay for it.. at least from what I've heard they did to modding in Rome 2.

If I could get the game for $5 I might try it out.. otherwise I got better things to do.
 

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Humble Bundle has a discount on Total War games - Rome 2 is for 18 eurobucks. Is it worth it to check it out myself, or should I wait a couple of years to be even cheaper?

You wait couple more years to get Complete edition featuring all dlc and expansions for 5 bucks.
 

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Their idea of adding 'content' probably just amounts to their Shogun II tactic of releasing $5 unit/faction packs every few months for all the autists who want to play as palette swapped Hellenistic/Persian/Tribal faction #2423.
 

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dumb decision to make better siege equipment such as rams and towers to be locked behind the worst research tree and the better versions behind the worst army traditions means that while they can go at you hard you aren't going to face sieges akin to Rome or Medieval 2.

So keep playing the horselord factions. Got it.
 

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I don't know. It's not the setting as such, but more what the setting results in (similar factions, small scale) that is the problem for me. If they could somehow merge the strengths of S2 (AI, character levelling system, UI) with the good parts of Rome 2 (scale, unit diversity, lack of "realm divide", more open world map) we might have a genuinely good game on our hands.

Also, maybe one day we will have world peace.
 

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One bonus of more regional maps is that the army sizes (full stack on huge = two to three thousand men) feel a lot more plausible.
 

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Whoa. CA fucked up. I guess Rome 2 will sit on my shelf for about a year until patches and mods fix things.

So I was right then? Haven't touched it since this post.
It's improved substantially since launch, but it's still based upon an inherently rotten foundation. At best after a year or so of patches it's gone down from "Fundamentally broken" to "sub-par", and that's being charitable.
 

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That's a gross exageration. When I played it (2? patches ago), siege battles were broken and the strategic AI far too passive and stupid. Diplomacy could be easily gamed and there were several other smaller issues (balance for research lines, units, buildings, trade resources, sieges, etc).
On the other hand, open battles were back to playing well. (Not Shogun2's crappy zipping units.) Army and General development are overall quite nice.

Now, I fucking despise CA for removing moddability (in a belief, that it'll help them rake in DLC cash) and I'd never advise anybody to buy their products. However, if that were not the case, I would consider Rome2 (with all the extra DLC crap) to be easily worth 10$~15$.
 

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