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Community RPG Codex GOTY 2021: Results & Cool Graphs

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Codex Year of the Donut
because the setting stops being interesting after the prologue when they trade it for generic underdeveloped fallout with damage puddles
 

Mortmal

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Half the number of voters that we've been getting the past few years. Maybe half our usual crowd didn't care about this year's games and maybe a good chunk of them gave up when they saw that bloated list. Four games got 0 votes period and over 50 got a single digit number of votes. Like I said a while ago, the list of games should be restricted to those that have had a thread with multiple pages worth of discussion. A goty poll is not the time or place for "exposure" for a bunch of RPGs no one gave a damn about for most of a year.

Anyway congratulations to the Archolos fans for successfully downvoting Wrathfinder into second place. :lol: And RIP Encased for screwing up a Fallout clone for the Codex of all places.

How does Encased not meet up to quality standards? It' setting and options seem way more interesting then another mundane post apoc barren empty world like Atom RPG Trudeaudrad.
First part is deep and complex with an intriguing plot, second part is "dude here's 3 posters to put on town buildings" quest like , disapointed people rate more harshly.
 

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Half the number of voters that we've been getting the past few years. Maybe half our usual crowd didn't care about this year's games and maybe a good chunk of them gave up when they saw that bloated list. Four games got 0 votes period and over 50 got a single digit number of votes. Like I said a while ago, the list of games should be restricted to those that have had a thread with multiple pages worth of discussion. A goty poll is not the time or place for "exposure" for a bunch of RPGs no one gave a damn about for most of a year.

Anyway congratulations to the Archolos fans for successfully downvoting Wrathfinder into second place. :lol: And RIP Encased for screwing up a Fallout clone for the Codex of all places.

How does Encased not meet up to quality standards? It' setting and options seem way more interesting then another mundane post apoc barren empty world like Atom RPG Trudeaudrad.
First part is deep and complex with an intriguing plot, second part is "dude here's 3 posters to put on town buildings" quest like , disapointed people rate more harshly.

Are they continuing to add more content and tweak quests and gameplay to improve it? There continuing sales and publisher should give them the resources to keep improving and fill out the second half of the game would be the hope there.
 

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Are they continuing to add more content and tweak quests and gameplay to improve it? There continuing sales and publisher should give them the resources to keep improving and fill out the second half of the game would be the hope there.

It's fully voice-acted so that would be too expensive. They've added content, so just not the kind of content people want.
 

Sandor

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because the setting stops being interesting after the prologue when they trade it for generic underdeveloped fallout with damage puddles
I see. So the actual fun things to do-aka quests as such decline heavily as the game progresses. As far as setting the beginning of Encased is definitely a more interesting setting then any other post apoc game besides Underrail since Atom RPG at least the beginning and from playthroughs appears to be another generic post apocalyptic contemporary mundane eastern European setting to, like Metalheart Replicants Rampage, Stalker, Metro, Chernogblyte etc.
 

dacencora

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For everyone whining about muh hidden gems:

Tales of Arise is a pretty good game but unlikely to be to the palate of most codexers. The weeb-factor is pretty low and it actually does have character-building with a fairly western-style plot, but the fighting-game style combat would probably turn most codexers off of it, if the anime gfx didn’t do it first.
 

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As far as setting the beginning of Encased is definitely a more interesting setting then any other post apoc game besides Underrail since Atom RPG at least the beginning and from playthroughs appears to be another generic post apocalyptic contemporary mundane eastern European setting to, like Metalheart Replicants Rampage, Stalker, Metro, Chernogblyte etc.

Yeah, beginning. Once you finish the prologue you get dropped into the generic post-apo.
 

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There are plenty of legit complaints to make about Wrath, such as the abysmal trash combat encounter spam, how many classes are still bugged months after release, the generally boring writing, or how uneven the mythic paths are (both content and character building wise), but the wokeness complaints are really overstated.

In 99% of cases you really have to interrogate NPCs for them to tell you their life stories. In many cases the "offending" stories are gated behind difficult skill checks. It isn't like Siege of Dragonspear at release where troons rush you with their life story when you ask them their name, or your companions make GamerGate jokes.

A lot of the woke bitching about WOTR reminds me of RetardEra. They do the exact same thing, scanning every inch of a game for something to offend them.
I don't understand one thing in your reasoning. Why woke writing that exists in the game (admitted even in quoted post) but is not directly "in your face" magically stops counting as woke? Weird logic if you ask me.
But maybe better to not make this thread into a Pathfinder wokeness discussion. It is the sheer amount of bad writing that does it for me mostly, anyway.


An average year unfortunately. At least from my perspective. The winner is not my type. Second place - see above. I'm glad that ATOM Trudograd made it to 3rd place. Jupiter Hell position is a surprise but a good one. Sadly I didn't play much last year.
 

dacencora

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The “woke” elements in Wrath are quite tame (I also don’t hate that kind of stuff with quite the same zeal that most other codexers do, at least not anymore). The main thing is that the writing is cringey. Unlike Baldur’s Gate which was charmingly campy, Wrathfinder is like glittery vomit on your screen. Maybe it has its own charm, but it could be pretty unbearable at times. Mostly the nihilistic elf(?) the guy with golden hair, the party boy. Can’t remember the name.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Grab the Codex by the pussy RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
I don't understand one thing in your reasoning. Why woke writing that exists in the game (admitted even in quoted post) but is not directly "in your face" magically stops counting as woke? Weird logic if you ask me.
But maybe better to not make this thread into a Pathfinder wokeness discussion. It is the sheer amount of bad writing that does it for me mostly, anyway.

I said overstated, not non existent.

It has been argued to death and beyond in the main PF thread. My general point in that thread was if you believed a lot of the edgy hyperbole, you would think every NPC immediately opens with a rant about the evil of whiteness or trooning out. The reality really isn't anywhere near that bad.

The bigger issue with the writing is it's all mostly boring or pure cringe.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
you make assumption that codexers dropped the game after fort joy. Im aware of only Darth Roxor not completing 2nd island
I made it until the last island, but I checked out when I saw the giant whirlpool. The whole island hop/ island gauntlet gave me Black and White flashbacks, and dropped it right there. Haven't started it since.

In my defense, I can be quite stubborn if I want to be.

That's all I had to say in my defense. :lol:
 

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My general point in that thread was if you believed a lot of the edgy hyperbole, you would think every NPC immediately opens with a rant about the evil of whiteness or trooning out. The reality really isn't anywhere near that bad.
I haven't followed the cringefinder threads closely, either the fan one or the parody one, but I don't believe I saw anyone saying what your general impression is. Rather I see lots pointing out that it is full of poor, amateurish writing and the player is "rewarded" for fulsome engagement with dialogue options by being presented naked cut-outs for modern political and sexual affinities, presumably those of the the writers and designers.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Grab the Codex by the pussy RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
My general point in that thread was if you believed a lot of the edgy hyperbole, you would think every NPC immediately opens with a rant about the evil of whiteness or trooning out. The reality really isn't anywhere near that bad.
I haven't followed the cringefinder threads closely, either the fan one or the parody one, but I don't believe I saw anyone saying what your general impression is. Rather I see lots pointing out that it is full of poor, amateurish writing and the player is "rewarded" for fulsome engagement with dialogue options by being presented naked cut-outs for modern political and sexual affinities, presumably those of the the writers and designers.

I've said my piece on this and I'm not getting dragged into it again. It was as boring and repetitive to argue in September as it is now (much as most of Wrath's combat encounters).

All I'll say is we had plenty of bad faith shitposters posting outright incorrect info in Wrath threads shortly before release and for a long while after. Including a certain Abukar avatar'd individual who was very troon obsessed for some reason.
 

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