Community RPG Codex GOTY 2022: Results & Cool Graphs

[Sobchak]

I will tell you what I don't like on this (and some of the recent past) RPG Codex GOTY list... I come here like many other grumpy old fucks to spot, discover and discuss about what is not discussed and spotted from other media, especially mainstream.

Now... When we're discussing RPG GOTY and I see games that are not pure CRPGs (I'm not against with hybrids but hear me out) it feels like if we put a good action game with some, just some, elements that are considered CRPG elements and that production just so happens to be pretty good, then it looks like the game will be top 3 or even the best "CRPG" of the year.

Well, that's what mainstream bozos are doing basically and that's what we're trying to avoid. Mainstream is good for unknown titles to get some shine (hi Disco Elysium), for the rest, I really don't give a flying fuck. It doesn't matter to me if Elder Ring or God of War: Ragnarok (which I love) is no1 here, there's no actual value.

Cheers.

 

[Jaedar]

Was the year really so lousy game-wise? Nothing better than this mediocrity?

The only year I can remember where the title for rpgoty was hotly contested by two generally well liked games was when it was Aod vs Underrail.

Every year besides that it's been a walkover win for the only half-decent release (or worse).

 

[Grauken]

I come here like many other grumpy old fucks

Joined: May 21, 2018

 

[mediocrepoet]

I will tell you what I don't like on this (and some of the recent past) RPG Codex GOTY list... I come here like many other grumpy old fucks to spot, discover and discuss about what is not discussed and spotted from other media, especially mainstream.

Now... When we're discussing RPG GOTY and I see games that are not pure CRPGs (I'm not against with hybrids but hear me out) it feels like if we put a good action game with some, just some, elements that are considered CRPG elements and that production just so happens to be pretty good, then it looks like the game will be top 3 or even the best "CRPG" of the year.

Well, that's what mainstream bozos are doing basically and that's what we're trying to avoid. Mainstream is good for unknown titles to get some shine (hi Disco Elysium), for the rest, I really don't give a flying fuck. It doesn't matter to me if Elder Ring or God of War: Ragnarok (which I love) is no1 here, there's no actual value.

Cheers.

I somewhat agree, but then, games that aren't "RPG enough" should never even enter the list at all and this would include things like VTMB, Gothic, Witcher, etc.

EDIT: I should add, consider what such a poll would actually look like. Probably JRPGs, mostly. Solasta: Lost Valley campaign, KotC2. Uh... that Potato Flowers game... If you remove JRPGs too like used to happen, now you have a poll of say less than 5 games most years. Possibly only one or two that might not even be all that good.

Progress?

 

[Sobchak]

I come here like many other grumpy old fucks

Joined: May 21, 2018

Jesus christ the stupidity here sometimes... How's that relevant ? How is the registered account related to my quote ? What are you even implying ? Fuck it...

 

[Sobchak]

I somewhat agree, but then, games that aren't "RPG enough" should never even enter the list at all and this would include things like VTMB, Gothic, Witcher, etc.

Ok you're right but many of these games are considered RPGs. Gothic is a CRPG. Elder Ring widens up the shit way too much. You need to draw a line somewhere. Also Elder Ring is *not* a CRPG first.

 

[Grauken]

I come here like many other grumpy old fucks

Joined: May 21, 2018

Jesus christ the stupidity here sometimes... How's that relevant ? How is the registered account related to my quote ? What are you even implying ? Fuck it...

This site has been around for almost 20 years but all those old-school RPGamers suddenly discovering it in the last couple years, damn hilarious

Oh, wait, your story is you actually lurked for those 20 years, right

 

[Sobchak]

This site has been around for almost 20 years but all those old-school RPGamers suddenly discovering it in the last couple years, damn hilarious

Oh, wait, your story is you actually lurked for those 20 years, right

My man, even if I tell you the real story you will stick to your retarded one. Your comment still doesn't make ANY sense at all.

 

[Sobchak]

EDIT: I should add, consider what such a poll would actually look like. Probably JRPGs, mostly. Solasta: Lost Valley campaign, KotC2. Uh... that Potato Flowers game... If you remove JRPGs too like used to happen, now you have a poll of say less than 5 games most years. Possibly only one or two that might not even be all that good.

Honestly, although I don't like the new era of JRPGs I don't mind. They are RPG first but if we start putting on the list things like Horizon, GoW, Elden Ring, etc., etc., we're loosing focus.

It's like going to Geoff Keighley and ask him what is the best CRPG of the year.

 

[mediocrepoet]

EDIT: I should add, consider what such a poll would actually look like. Probably JRPGs, mostly. Solasta: Lost Valley campaign, KotC2. Uh... that Potato Flowers game... If you remove JRPGs too like used to happen, now you have a poll of say less than 5 games most years. Possibly only one or two that might not even be all that good.

Honestly, although I don't like the new era of JRPGs I don't mind. They are RPG first but if we start putting on the list things like Horizon, GoW, Elden Ring, etc., etc., we're loosing focus.

It's like going to Geoff Keighley and ask him what is the best CRPG of the year.

Maybe. People bitch to the high heavens about stuff like VtMB too, which I can see the argument for. Personally Imo as soon as you start dumping hybrids, which I'm fine with, I think you need to take a shit on games like Gothic too. Anyway just saying.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

RTS genre was a mistake tho, it will never be revived, because literally no one wants to play it - even the "fans". They just want to look at the games of their childhood and pretend they were good.

The RTS genre was a mistake, but the RTSRPG subgenre was a blunder.

 

[Shin]

EDIT: I should add, consider what such a poll would actually look like. Probably JRPGs, mostly. Solasta: Lost Valley campaign, KotC2. Uh... that Potato Flowers game... If you remove JRPGs too like used to happen, now you have a poll of say less than 5 games most years. Possibly only one or two that might not even be all that good.

Honestly, although I don't like the new era of JRPGs I don't mind. They are RPG first but if we start putting on the list things like Horizon, GoW, Elden Ring, etc., etc., we're loosing focus.

It's like going to Geoff Keighley and ask him what is the best CRPG of the year.

...Elden Ring? Just like the rpgcodex?

 

[buffalo bill]

The more powerful computers we have at our disposal could've been used to make all sorts of really cool simulationist and crunchy RPG systems. Instead, we got "realistic" graphics, bloom, and particle effects, while making sure the RPG systems could be processed by a TI-85.

100% !!
My dream-RPG would be something like a single-player game in Ultima 6/7 graphics in which one started as a low peasant. And said peasant could spend the rest of his life planting cabbages and wheat or instead go on a life of adventure and rise to be a king or even rule an empire. Meanwhile the character would be able to start a family, have kids (his kids would inherit his genetic traits and some of his stats) and would continue the game after the original character died. Meanwhile the open game world would evolve and have its own dynamic (generate orc invasions, zombie plagues, conspiracies from other kingdoms, plagues, etc etc) and the game would give the option to raise armies and wage war or manage the kingdom like a city-builder.

Thus: imagine a mix between Ultima 7 + Crusader Kings + Total War.

Kinda sounds like Cataclysm:DDA, except as far as I know C:DDA has no romances.

Yes. That's the kind of stuff I mean. Unfortunately, stuff like Cataclysm (maybe also Caves of Qud a bit?) and others still remain mostly niche experiences. Maybe the new success of Dwarf Fortress on its steam release will encourage devs to try new paths.

yeah I was going to say Caves of Qud also, but the codex gets upset when that game gets mentioned because they don't like the politics of the devs.

 

[Roguey]

yeah I was going to say Caves of Qud also, but the codex gets upset when that game gets mentioned because they don't like the politics of the devs.

Well the game content itself is proudly pozzed.

"Caves of Qud devs are pozzed but the game is good and easy to pirate"

I think that if you use HIV status as a slur we can do without your bigot bucks. Enjoy all the Jewish folklore, queer themes, and leftist values we put in the art you're mooching

I don't think that mocking people based on elevated fatality rates is a thing you can do if you are a decent person. That is an evil thing to do. That's bully culture and it's craven. Pathetic.

but no we should definitely be obligated to host a Discord for these people. Fantastic idea.

this is inspired in part by me tripping over the RPGCodex thread about Caves of Qud, which is a real shitshow of reactionary garbage and has been talking shit (and spreading lies!) about the dev team for literal years lol

 

[Tyranicon]

this is inspired in part by me tripping over the RPGCodex thread about Caves of Qud, which is a real shitshow of reactionary garbage and has been talking shit (and spreading lies!) about the dev team for literal years lol

That thread is literally called "Caves of Qud (ROGUELIKE) deserves our love"

How bad can it be?

-reads last five pages-

Oh, okay then.

 

[buffalo bill]

the game is very good, I'm sick of arguing about it on codex though

 

[luj1]

Sow hat's the current state of Knights of the Chalice 2?

better than at initial release but i still hope you like reloading every fight twenty times

tried it one more time after 'official' release and quit halfway through because i figured i can't be bothered with this shit

Haerkenworld > OC

 

[luj1]

I'd like to see the correlation between users' ratings for Elden Ring and whether they played KOTC2.

Is the kind of person who plays KOTC2 more stingy with his ratings (for Elden Ring and also in general)?

KotC is like caviar compared to this donkey piss generic game #23.

But ofc felipepe is enamored by dark souls like other hipster faggots.

 

[cruel]

So, what about filtering the final results next time to only include games with at least 10% participation rate? This way you could avoid some public embarrassment

 

[Roguey]

So, what about filtering the final results next time to only include games with at least 10% participation rate? This way you could avoid some public embarrassment

That would exclude Ctrl Alt Ego which seems to be a quality title.

 

[mediocrepoet]

So, what about filtering the final results next time to only include games with at least 10% participation rate? This way you could avoid some public embarrassment

That would exclude Ctrl Alt Ego which seems to be a quality title.

True, but it also seems to be even less of an RPG than other games on the list. Does it even have stats or anything? No inventory...

Anyway, whatever.

 

[Harthwain]

True, but it also seems to be even less of an RPG than other games on the list. Does it even have stats or anything? No inventory...

Anyway, whatever.

To know what is an RPG we need to ask ourselves a very simple question: does it have combat?

 

[lycanwarrior]

Elden Ring is a "RPG" since when??!#?

 

[Kev Inkline]

Elden Ring is a "RPG" since when??!#?

You're a codex member since when??!#?

 

[Shodanon]

So, what about filtering the final results next time to only include games with at least 10% participation rate? This way you could avoid some public embarrassment

That would exclude Ctrl Alt Ego which seems to be a quality title.

And it is!