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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Zarniwoop

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The fuck is Alife?
https://web.archive.org/web/20080228032107/https://aigamedev.com/interviews/stalker-alife

I'm not sure why they claim it's implemented in the build we are playing but that bugs are hampering it. It's clear while traversing the world space it's not functioning that way in the slightest. It'd be an easier answer to swallow that it wasn't at a workable stage yet, and that they opted to switch in random close-proximity spawns that are transient as a bandage. Game has a solid core but it's held down by how undercooked the systems are overall. To play at this point you may as well only follow MQ mission string and hope it doesn't break.
Meh, sounds like the first game then. It was pretty much unplayable when it launched.
 

randir14

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I'm starting to think that using the higher end gear is pointless without any kind of upgrades. Anything that isn't a Ak74U and a PMM is just made out of glass that will lose 20% of its condition just to shoot a handful of bandits. To make things worse, I've only just realized that all gear takes passive damage from anomalies.
I was wondering why upgrades had both "reduces wear and tear" and "reduces wear and tear from external sources". I guess the latter is the anomaly damage.
 

Gerrard

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I'm starting to think that using the higher end gear is pointless without any kind of upgrades. Anything that isn't a Ak74U and a PMM is just made out of glass that will lose 20% of its condition just to shoot a handful of bandits. To make things worse, I've only just realized that all gear takes passive damage from anomalies.
I was wondering why upgrades had both "reduces wear and tear" and "reduces wear and tear from external sources". I guess the latter is the anomaly damage.
Using melee with guns also damages them.
 

Lyre Mors

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The game wasn't ready, and the fact they pushed it out the door knowing that full well was slimy. As much as I despise early access, if they felt the need to do so, that's probably the route they should have taken. I'm someone who played the first STALKER day one, and seeing all the people saying "oh, I see you're new to STALKER. You didn't expect it to be broken? Ha! Let me tell you about the good old days!" is incredibly annoying, not only because they probably didn't play the first game day one and broken as fuck like I did, but also because defending a game that's been in development this long with "lol, it's stalker" is incredibly foolish. I wouldn't care if it was simply buggy, but having core features that aren't functional is unacceptable for a full priced game.

Some of the hyperbole in this thread is silly, and even in its current state it's still a better FPS than the vast majority that are released, but I'm certainly not a satisfied customer. I'll be waiting until it's either patched up or modded into the proper state before I play it more. It's taking a lot of will power to not launch it, but I know there's a better experience waiting for me in the future, one way or another.

In the meantime, I'll probably be picking up Blood West again to somewhat satiate the craving that's been worked up inside me. Highly recommend people check it out if you haven't yet. I'm sure it'll be on sale in a couple days when the Steam fall sale starts.
 

mediocrepoet

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The game wasn't ready, and the fact they pushed it out the door knowing that full well was slimy. As much as I despise early access, if they felt the need to do so, that's probably the route they should have taken. I'm someone who played the first STALKER day one, and seeing all the people saying "oh, I see you're new to STALKER. You didn't expect it to be broken? Ha! Let me tell you about the good old days!" is incredibly annoying, not only because they probably didn't play the first game day one and broken as fuck like I did, but also because defending a game that's been in development this long with "lol, it's stalker" is incredibly foolish. I wouldn't care if it was simply buggy, but having core features that aren't functional is unacceptable for a full priced game.

I have a preorder D1P SoC box on my shelf. I treated it like I treated this and many other games: I booted it to see how it runs, then when I felt it needed time, I shelved it until I felt it was where I wanted it. It's not great, but it is what it is. I don't do it with all games anymore like I used to (digital sales make that crazy talk), only when I want to support a dev or project.

The only time it grinds my gears is when it gets abandoned or just forever remains dog shit. My backlog probably exceeds my natural lifespan at this point, so whatever.
 

Lyre Mors

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The only time it grinds my gears is when it gets abandoned or just forever remains dog shit. My backlog probably exceeds my natural lifespan at this point, so whatever.
Being passionate and caring about your hobby and releases you're excited about is a sign of good health. Yeah, we all have an endless backlog at this point, but it's more about looking forward to something new, and justifiably expecting it to function as it was advertised.

That being said, I don't regret my purchase (I got it on a pretty nice sale), as I know the game is at least a good foundation as a mod platform. I do have faith the issues that I have with the game will be resolved, particularly with the amount of criticism they're receiving for those specific things. It's absurd they released it in its current state, but they are showing a clear investment in the community regardless. I'm annoyed, but I'll check back in a few months and probably have a great time.
 

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